I learn so many things by reading Reddit on the regular. Here are a few historical insights I picked up on the Antifeminist subreddit today.
Back in its heyday in the early and mid 2010s, A Voice for Men was one of the more obnoxious sites on the internet, not just attacking women on a daily basis but doing so in the crudest language its writers could think of, regularly castigating women as “cunts” and “bitches” at the same time site founder Paul Elam claimed that AVFM was the flagship site for a so-called “Men’s Human Rights Movement.”
The incel-ification of the Men’s Rights movement continues apace. The regulars on the Men’s Rights subreddit, much like the incels I follow, are whining that it’s literally impossible for most men to meet the allegedly quite stringent height standards for women.
In a thread on the subreddit posted yesterday, a fellow called NoCommunication5976 declares that “Men’s appearance standards are basically impossible to meet up to.”
He continues, making clear that what he’s really talking about is height.
I’m not talking about how you have to be ripped and use steroids to meet standards, I’m talking about how it is statistically impossible to meet up to height standards. The average man is around 5’6” keep in mind, lots of men are shorter, and lots are taller, but not significantly taller.
Actually, the average height of American men is 5′ 9,” as I learned from literally seconds worth of Googling.
6’2” is around the 99th percentile, meaning that 1 in 100 men meet appearance standards.
You really think that women will refuse to date anyone less than 6’2″?
The thing is, height cannot be improved through any means, no matter what.
Uh, you can wear shoes with big heels that will increase your height an inch or two.
This makes height standards impossible to meet. It would be like if everyone had to pay a billion dollars in taxes just like elon musk.
Really? I would be stunned to hear that Elon Musk actually pays any taxes.
Now, we all can see with our own eyes that there are plenty of short (or at least less than 6″2″) guys in the world with girlfriends or wives (or both). There are certainly some women who say they won’t date men who aren’t, say, 6 foot or over. But they’re clearly a minority — because most men shorter than that are able to find partners for themselves.
So how important are women’s height preferences anyway, according to SCIENCE? It depends on what study you’re looking at and how the issue is framed. But the short answer is: not that important.
One recent study found that height does in fact matter more to women than it does to men. But that doesn’t mean that it matters a lot. While only 13% of men said they preferred to date women shorter than them, roughly half of dating-age women wanted someone taller than them.
“Someone taller than them” doesn’t mean 6 feet or higher. It just means taller than the woman filling out the survey. The average height of American women is 5’4,” which is a full five inches shorter than the average American man. That means most men meet the height standards of the roughly 50 percent of women who express a preference in height. That means it’s a bit harder for men less than 5’4″ to find dates, but not impossible, as half the women out there don’t care.
Another survey I found asked rather different questions but came to a similar conclusion: women don’t care all that much about height. Indeed, nearly 70 percent of women said they found short men attractive. And more than 80 percent said they would date men the same height as they are.
Meanwhile, 60 percent said that the ideal height for a man is 5’8″ — that’s an inch shorter than the average American man.
Which might suggest that women actually prefer slightly shorter guys?
Though NoCommunication5976’s thread got more than 200 upvotes, there were a few in the comments who pointed out that his claims were pretty much bullshit.
“You spend too much time on the internet,” wrote marks1995.
You’re confusing a preference with a standard.
As you said, 99% of men aren’t 6′. That doesn’t mean 99% of men are single.
There are women that would love a 6′ tall guy. But the vast majority of them would gladly trade a few inches in height for someone with goals, confidence, grooming, good at sex, etc. All things you can control.
Like the incels they increasingly resemble, Men’s Rights activists spend a great deal of their time and energy fighting battles against imaginary oppression.
I wonder if it ever occurs to these guys that women don’t want to date them, not because they’re short, but because they’re Men’s Rights activists?
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We’re going back to that Reddit thread from yesterday, because there’s a wonderful comment there that pretty much sums up the Men Going Their Own Way movement.
So over on the Men’s Rights subreddit today there’s a dude completely losing it over the issue of … tipping waitresses. Seems that these women, especially the younger ones, sometimes see a big tip from an older guy as a sign that the tipper has feelings for them (in his pants) and sometimes this kind of creeps them out.
So Men’s Rights Redditors are pitching another fit about the alleged evils of OnlyFans, and a fellow called SportsNutJob has some deep thoughts on the matter.
It’s always handy, during a political or cultural or even just a regular war war, to have a good derogatory name to call your opponents. During World War I, the allies called the Germans “Huns” — as in “Atilla the,” not “huns, could you pass the butter, thanks babe.”
Watch out, straight dudes! You may find yourself pining for a girlfriend, but find that there aren’t any on offer, because the lesbians have taken them all.
Today is a day of mourning and rage amongst those who believe in the rights of pregnant people. The Supreme Court ruling striking down Roe V. Wade is a massive step backward, and may presage similarly retrograde attacks on everything from contraception to gay marriage. It’s bad news all around.
Men’s Rights Activists have discovered a new entirely hypothetical danger — that evil feminists, mad about the end of Roe V Wade, will force the government to mandate vasectomies for all pubescent boys.