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After a day spent going through hundreds of pages of violent misogyny posted in that notorious 4channer IRC chat log, I thought I’d cleanse my palate by taking another peek into Reddit’s favorite gathering hole for Red Pill Redditors. The Red Pill subreddit, after all, is all about self-improvement, and helping men navigate the sexual marketplace in “a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”
So let’s see what sort of self-improvement tips I can find there today! Here’s one!
![sumdumguy-throwaway 6 points 17 hours ago If women didn't have vaginas, they would be hunted for sport. permalink save report give gold [–]2vengefully_yours 11 points 14 hours ago Not much of a challenge really, they are slow, relatively incompetent, weak as shit, and have nearly zero spatial ability. It would be like hunting a video game journalist.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/vaginas.png?ssl=1)
Oh, dear. We’re off to a really bad start here. I mean, some people might consider these comments to be just an eensy-weensy bit, you know, sexist.
But these are just a couple of comments. Let’s back up a moment to look at the post these comments were responding to. Here it is, a (presumably) very thoughtful treatise on the expectations men and women have going into relationships, by a fellow with the unusual name Gay Lube-Oil. (Presumably his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Lube-Oil, named him after “new journalism” legend Gay Talese.) It’s got literally hundreds of upvotes, so it must be pretty good.
So let’s take a look at the younger Mr. Lube-Oil’s thoughts on this fascinating topic.
What you’re going to find is that western and western influenced women expect a lot more from men than they’re willing to give in return. Women shouldn’t be judged for their bodies but that fat dude is a creep. I needed time to find myself but men without a good income are losers. My husband needs to be there for me, but if I sense any emotional weakness ill be gone faster than Jose Canseco during a piss test.
Huh. I see no citations for any of this, but I guess I’ll take his word for it.
Why are all women like this?
Ah, a variation on Freud’s famous question: “women — what’s their fucking problem?”
Because all her life, the only thing that was expected of her was for her to bring her vagina. It got her into parties and clubs. It got her drugs. It might have even helped her get a job that she was less qualified for. The corporate media taught her that as a vagina operator, men owed her tons of free shit. The movies and shows that she defines herself by depict women as passive objects to be showered in male affection. Diamonds are a girls best friend (because women are incapable of real friendship).
Huh. I thought maybe I’d ask my best friend about this, but as it turns out she’s a woman, and therefore not my best friend at all.
Its foolish to expect any equality in a relationship because society conditions women to be selfish assholes. When a women says that she will be there for her boyfriend. She means in the literal physical sense. Depressed men are unattractive and women have no interest being anywhere near them. Ultimately, most women only bring to relationships what they bring to the club: vagina.
This is kind of a double whammy because, as we’ve been told again and again from the fellows I write about on this blog, vaginas are dirty and slimy and smell very, very bad.
There are two ways to respond to this Red Pill truth. You can use women for their vaginas and nothing else. Or you can teach her to cook, workout and whatever else you expect out of a LTR. In the end all you get by default is vagina, unless she stops being attracted to you. If that’s the case she has a headache.
It’s like that old joke: “Boy, the vaginas at this place are really stinky. And such small portions!”
(Thanks, Blue Pill Subreddit, for pointing me to these wondrous bits of Red Pill Wisdom.)
My LDR guy sent me two loose diamonds. Surprised the hell out of me.
Considering my track record with jewelry, I am REALLY hesitant to have those installed in something.
I will probably just stash them somewhere, like inside a wall, for the rest of my life.
Meanwhile, I have had Amazon uk deliver him all sorts of practical shit.
(I try to spend roughly equal amounts on him and the GF)
When I get over there next month, I will have to tell him that I was sending him this stuff because of his penis…:p
Yes, the eternal vagina conundrum… A man can’t live with it, and a man can’t live without it (unless a man teaches it to work out, cook, and whatever else he needs in life).
These lamentations are kinda hilarious, I must say, because we all know that should a vagina with its owner present itself to the lamenteer IRL, he’d change his tune ASAP.
Or… maybe not.
I’m reminded of a manurespheric poster who goes by the handle A Definite Beta Guy and is responsible for some of the vilest misogynist screeds in the sphere (his favorite site is Just Four Guys). He is young and an accountant (which probably explains some things), and has just gotten married this summer.
But even days before his wedding, he kept posting bitter screeds about how women’s only value is in their vaginas — other than that, they are entirely useless (because, for example, you cannot discuss with them (e.g.) Kantian metaphysics, quantum cryptography, and other highly intellectual and specialized subjects that apparently preoccupy ADBG’s mind every waking minute when he’s not compulsively posting his misogynist mental vomit online). He gossiped about and besmirched his bride-to-be and her family, specifically its womenfolk, as the embodiment of all feminine evils whose only redeeming features are their vaginas.
And without a hint of self-awareness, he banged on women being unable to love and having a mercenary approach to relationships, while barely a month earlier he was calculating how his future wife’s income (she’s in med school, so obviously a total dummy with no appreciation for intellectual pursuits whatsoever) will improve his prospects in life.
And so on — a fascinating, hilarious, but also disturbing real life study of the misogynist’s intellectual and moral corruption.
I sincerely wish the wives, wives-to-be, and GFs of these men had enough wherewithal to find out what their SOs post online. It would save them much disappointment and pain in the future.
Aunt Edna,
He’s…married? For reals? That’s so sad. His poor wife.
Also, I just started googling A Definite Beta Guy to see how bad he was, and I came across this article. http://www.justfourguys.com/sexual-escalation-whats-a-guy-supposed-to-do/
It’s written by a man wondering why he needs to take seduction slowly in order to be successful and why women stop him if he tries to move too quickly from a make out session to PIV. Unsurprisingly, his conclusion is that it’s an anti-slut defense. He never pauses to think that maybe these women just want to spend more time on foreplay before they have sex. The level of obliviousness here is mind-boggling.
Oh, and of course they’re against asking directly for things because they think that it will kill the mood. But who here is surprised by that at this point?
Yeah, Alais, newly married for reals. Absolutely scary. I hope his wife finds out whom she married sooner than later (before they have kids, for sure).
Of course maybe she knows and does not care — but given what he’s been saying about her, and her family, and women in general on that site only, I highly doubt it. A woman would have to be self-loathing to the point of self-destruction not to care; and from what he’s said about her — directly and not — she sounds like a sweet and lovely person, although probably somewhat naive as judging by her choice of a husband.
As to the oblivious and supremely egocentric “wisdom” of their seduction “game” espoused there, it is a classic. Yes, they genuinely think this way, and, what’s more, believe that so do women (there are a couple of self-loathing women on that site who reinforce their views).
These guys represent misogyny at its purest and vilest — but when confronted with it, act surprised and offended: “Misogynist? Moi? Surely you jest.”
It’d be funny, if it weren’t so frightening, really.
Alais,
I think the disconnect there is that he doesn’t understand why a woman’s desire or pleasure matters. It’s all about him. I feel so sorry for his wife.
@Alais,
That article is disgusting. It goes back to the concept that when a woman says “no” it’s the beginning of a negotiation. He’s basically telling guys to keep asking for what they want until they get it, like the child whining in the candy aisle at the grocery stor. It doesn’t matter what she says now. Just keep asking. She’ll say yes eventually.
Hahahahahahaha! Oh, those silly, silly boyz. Of course, I have an I.Q. registered at 170, I have been happily married with my best ever in the world friend for 41 years, I have, with him, created and raised four exceptional children. I am also an artist, musician and poet.
And, you know what, you silly, silly creatures? I am not at all unusual in the world of humans who see each other as…well…human and worthwhile (which comprises most, though not all).
Sour grapes, huh? You lads are lonely? Well, try stepping out from behind your screens, notice the living and vibrant world around you, and get off your pity pots. You, too, may find friends, lovers and happy lives.
Of course, you can also choose to remain in the rather stinkily rarified atmospheres of your parents basements, sucking on the teats of hate and rage. Freedom is Fun!
Love and kisses,
The Social Justice Ranger Mommy
Oh, and as an addendum to my previous post – Just remember, kiddies, ALL of you came into the world through your mother’s “stinky” vaginas. ALL of you lived your first 10 lunar months inside of her foul, smelly body. So, tell me, little ones – what does that make you???
XO,
TSJRM
Vaginas are not generally that stinky, if they are there is a problem, and it is time to go to the clinic.
They probably think their man parts always smell wonderful. No.
In addition to hating women for not instantly satisfying their desires, one gets the sense that redpill dudes are really jealous of them. I read that as “I wish my genitalia got me free stuff and I didn’t have to care about my partner’s feelings.”
They get male privilege, and refuse to care about their partner’s feelings…
Note: I was trying to quote “If women didn’t have vaginas, they’d be hunted for sport.” The blockquotes messed up and made me quote myself.
http://questionablecontent.net/comics/2780.png
Girl parts are stinky!! Yeah, no. All human parts are stinky if they aren’t washed enough. That’s why we invented soap.
Signed,
Someone who occasionally washes other humans as part of my job.
@freemage
I nominate this phrase for “wins the thread.”
Yeah, date-rape drugs. And she didn’t even have to ASK for them! Woooow!
@Lea:
“I feel so sorry for his wife.”
We all should.
The below is what ADBG posted about three weeks before his wedding (his posts afterwards were equally “loving,” including making fun of his new wife, for the benefit of his buddies, for not knowing how to properly wash his favorite skillet):
“Men are just more interesting than women in my particular social circle. The only interesting thing about the girls is that they have vaginas.
And they really have no idea how boring they are. They actually think they add excitement to a guy’s life.”
http://www.justfourguys.com/the-culture-of-narcissism-and-the-female-entitlement-mentality-guest-post-by-ciaran-part-one/#comment-67025
Also this gem — three weeks before the wedding, mind you, further indicating the level of his happiness and love for her:
‘I know for sure my fiance is AWALT. (…) She absolutely gets insecure and jealous and likes to have a ton of attention and gets annoyed if I spend too much time doing “other things.”’
http://www.justfourguys.com/the-culture-of-narcissism-and-the-female-entitlement-mentality-guest-post-by-ciaran-part-one/#comment-66449
Hope this poor woman will find a good divorce attorney when the time comes, as it will.
@quantumscale –
When I’m on my period, I sometimes think that beef must be included in every MEAL.
And on that note, I’m gonna go cook up something beefy.
They forget that not all parents give in to the kid. Some will just leave the store immediately, no treats, nothing. Some will give the kid a swat on the backside. Or, in the words of a friend of mine, tell the kid “Nobody likes a whiny brat.”
@ kittehserf – Or lie like I used to. I told my smalls that the candy at the checkout wasn’t real food and it was just for display. They’re old enough to know better now, but they still don’t whine for it.
@ Samantha – I explained to fruitloopsie why that argument doesn’t work on them. As far as they’re concerned, they’ve risen above their humble origins by virtue of being men. Men do stuff (well, maybe they haven’t done much personally, but men do), while women are just walking reproductive systems.
Kinda plays into their hands, really.
This guy seems to be living in a different reality then I am in. The only really expensive thing I like is business class flights. And I only need that overnight. I get really airsick. 🙁
I have been married to my best friend for 16 years. He has stuck by me over the last 15 years of medical problems. I am so lucky to be with him. He meets my three wants. He is over 6′, enjoys my baked goods, is willing to play endless hours of video games so I can watch. 🙂 He is perfect for me.
I can’t decide if this is ingenious or diabolical. Maybe it’s both. All I know is that I’m very sad that I didn’t think of it when my eldest was still at the gullible stage.
@Kestrel:
Ever since I was kid, I’ve always liked to watch other people play video games. Some of my favorite memories included watching my friends play (I was never very good at them, barring a few exceptions). I’m glad to know that I’m not that weird, then. Your husband sounds nice. 🙂 I hope I meet someone like that someday.