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After a day spent going through hundreds of pages of violent misogyny posted in that notorious 4channer IRC chat log, I thought I’d cleanse my palate by taking another peek into Reddit’s favorite gathering hole for Red Pill Redditors. The Red Pill subreddit, after all, is all about self-improvement, and helping men navigate the sexual marketplace in “a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.”
So let’s see what sort of self-improvement tips I can find there today! Here’s one!
![sumdumguy-throwaway 6 points 17 hours ago If women didn't have vaginas, they would be hunted for sport. permalink save report give gold [–]2vengefully_yours 11 points 14 hours ago Not much of a challenge really, they are slow, relatively incompetent, weak as shit, and have nearly zero spatial ability. It would be like hunting a video game journalist.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/vaginas.png?ssl=1)
Oh, dear. We’re off to a really bad start here. I mean, some people might consider these comments to be just an eensy-weensy bit, you know, sexist.
But these are just a couple of comments. Let’s back up a moment to look at the post these comments were responding to. Here it is, a (presumably) very thoughtful treatise on the expectations men and women have going into relationships, by a fellow with the unusual name Gay Lube-Oil. (Presumably his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Lube-Oil, named him after “new journalism” legend Gay Talese.) It’s got literally hundreds of upvotes, so it must be pretty good.
So let’s take a look at the younger Mr. Lube-Oil’s thoughts on this fascinating topic.
What you’re going to find is that western and western influenced women expect a lot more from men than they’re willing to give in return. Women shouldn’t be judged for their bodies but that fat dude is a creep. I needed time to find myself but men without a good income are losers. My husband needs to be there for me, but if I sense any emotional weakness ill be gone faster than Jose Canseco during a piss test.
Huh. I see no citations for any of this, but I guess I’ll take his word for it.
Why are all women like this?
Ah, a variation on Freud’s famous question: “women — what’s their fucking problem?”
Because all her life, the only thing that was expected of her was for her to bring her vagina. It got her into parties and clubs. It got her drugs. It might have even helped her get a job that she was less qualified for. The corporate media taught her that as a vagina operator, men owed her tons of free shit. The movies and shows that she defines herself by depict women as passive objects to be showered in male affection. Diamonds are a girls best friend (because women are incapable of real friendship).
Huh. I thought maybe I’d ask my best friend about this, but as it turns out she’s a woman, and therefore not my best friend at all.
Its foolish to expect any equality in a relationship because society conditions women to be selfish assholes. When a women says that she will be there for her boyfriend. She means in the literal physical sense. Depressed men are unattractive and women have no interest being anywhere near them. Ultimately, most women only bring to relationships what they bring to the club: vagina.
This is kind of a double whammy because, as we’ve been told again and again from the fellows I write about on this blog, vaginas are dirty and slimy and smell very, very bad.
There are two ways to respond to this Red Pill truth. You can use women for their vaginas and nothing else. Or you can teach her to cook, workout and whatever else you expect out of a LTR. In the end all you get by default is vagina, unless she stops being attracted to you. If that’s the case she has a headache.
It’s like that old joke: “Boy, the vaginas at this place are really stinky. And such small portions!”Â
(Thanks, Blue Pill Subreddit, for pointing me to these wondrous bits of Red Pill Wisdom.)
Does it ever occur to these fine young men that they wouldn’t be around, were it not for vaginas? And do they ever consider their mothers, sisters, etc, when composing their thoughtful essays?
I remember the day I forgot my vagina at home. Was fired from my job so went to the club to let loose a little, of course they wouldn’t let me in. No one even gave me diamonds. Awful!
What a bizarre statement. I wonder if they ever really read any of these posts to themselves, or if the frenzied smashing of fingers against keyboard drowns out any semblance of internal monologue.
Translation: Nobody loves me. I hate women, but I want one.
What a brilliant and stunning MANifesto. *eyeroll* Maybe the reason he thinks women can’t be real friends is he’s an obnoxious little shit weasel. Just a shot in the dark there. We all know that I’m not capable of REAL thought on account of my amazing vagina of doom.
You know, I at least expected to explain why women would be hunted for sport if they didn’t have vaginas. But the closest thing that I get is another post declaring the women are terrible because western culture (which I thought was superior and had invented all other cultures which was why white people were the best according to these guys) gives them all these privileges based on their vaginas. So, shouldn’t the real conclusion be that women would be better people if they didn’t have vaginas?
I feel like my vagina is under-performing. It has never gotten me drugs, and the last time I tried to use it to get into a club I was arrested.
Man I have got to get me a vagina!
I just had a long conversation with my vagina, and let it know in no uncertain terms that it had better start bringing some value to this relationship or it was out of here.
The guy sitting next to me on the bus seems confused.
Seriously, what’s up with this idea that women can’t cook? I can cook. My mom can cook. Pretty much every female friend I have can cook and does so regularly.
Furthermore, am I expected to believe that they don’t regularly see two overweight people in relationships or that they never see fat men dating thin women? Do they not understand that no one is expecting them to date a woman to whom they are not sexually attracted but rather that people are asking them to recognize that the media presents an impossible standard of female beauty (and increasingly male beauty, I will admit, though at least men still only have to embody one ideal at once) and to stop treating the women to whom they are not attracted like subhuman monsters? Oh wait… I think that I figured out what the problem is. Also, I just remember that their idea of fat is Jennifer Lawrence.
“Women don’t find me attractive that must be because I’m not rich/I’m depressed” sure the fact that you’re a hateful piece of shit is 100% unrelated. It may also be a factor that all *he* seems to expect from a relationship is a vagina (and cooking and working out?). Great dating advice dudes!
I have been moved to comment for the first time to request, “Vagina Operator” on a t-shirt. I may update my twitter to reflect this aspect of my skill set. Also, my CV – presumably, the diamonds and club entry will arrive 7-10 working days after I have done so?
Oooh,oooh! [Raises hand in back.] I have a third way!
Why don’t you go your own way!. And mean it! As in, we don’t have to hear from you ever again!
Shiraz: a few of these guys seem so sexually repulsed by women that I wonder if they really want one or if the prospect of being gay is more horrible to them than any woman.
“zero spatial ability”??
I swear to gods, the “STEM-loving” manosphere is where research goes to die.
Interestingly, while the gender discrepancy in spatial awareness (not huge) has been found across cultures, a 2011 study on one patrilineal and one matrilineal tribe in Northern India found that women performed equally well on an SA test in the latter. This lends credence to criticisms of past SA studies that highlighted the potential for stereotype threat:
Damn, blockquote fail
It’s not whether or not women can cook–it’s whether or not a woman is willing to be the sole cook in the household, whether or not she is also working a full-time job.
On the second point, I love that he cites women being socialized by culture, but seems utterly unaware of the Fat Man/Hot Wife default of sitcoms.
And speaking of that–from the OP.
There’s a kernel of truth in this mountain of bullshit. It is true that women are often portrayed in the media as passive objects, virtual automatons whose existence is solely justified by their ability to provide sex to the agency-possessing men around them in response to the proper stimuli. If only there was some sort of movement out there that was seeking to change this, to erase codified gender roles, to push the media into portraying all genders as having equal agency. I’m sure that, if there was only some group out there wanting women to be portrayed as responsible for their own destiny, for young women to be taught that they are in charge of their own lives and should make their own choices, without relying on a man as anything other than as an equal partner, Mr. Lube-Oil would happily join that movement.
Of course, first he’d have to use a crowbar to help himself stop licking his own tonsils from the wrong end, but then, THEN, he might actually begin to work for the world he claims to want.
“nearly zero spatial ability” “vagina operator” “women are incapable of real friendship”
I guess women are just poorly designed robots?
In some cases, I’m sure you’re right.
I think the idea behind women not being able to cook is that in a sexist’s mind, women may be able to cook, but advanced chef stuff is the domain of man minds. Bleh typing that made me feel ill.
Does it ever occur to these fine young men that they wouldn’t be around, were it not for vaginas? And do they ever consider their mothers, sisters, etc, when composing their thoughtful essays?
Nope! If any of these men were capable of genuine self-reflection or insight, they wouldn’t be Red Pillers.
The solipsism and psychopathic self-regard of some of my fellow men scares the hell out of me…
Wow so all the help and support my girlfriend has given me over the last decade as I’ve dealt with my depression was what then? Something I’ve imagined? Some sort of feminist double counter blind bluff?
Maybe if no one is supporting or helping you your depression it’s because you have no redeeming qualities worth supporting dude.
Alaisvex, I too wonder what world these men live in. Most men I encounter in the real world prefer women who are average – but with these guys, it seems women can never be skinny enough. Maybe these guys just hate women so much that any semblance of a womanly figure sends them running for the hills?
I’m just gonna assume the “hunting a game journalist” was an offensive reference to all the #gamergate shit.
I dunno man. When you collapse all women everywhere at all times into one big fleshy ball, it’s a bit hard to assign a single motivation…
Without SCIENCE!
See, due to the superposition principle, we can explain every simultaneously contradictory behavior with a single behavioral wave function. Simply mash together all the different motivations different women may have at different times in different situations in a Sciencely fashion. The solution to this equation seems to work out to:
[ Societal judgement is { bad ] even if hot [ dude } needs to grow { up ] to her if she wants to be in a [ relationship } is based on { support ] can be mentally exhausting }