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CoAlpha Forum member on Elliot Rodger: "Had he just butchered as many sorority girls as he could he would have been a true hero."

A makeshift shrine on the lawn of the sorority targeted by Elliot Rodger
A makeshift shrine on the lawn of the sorority targeted by Elliot Rodger

Most of those in the manosphere, whatever their real feelings, have been relatively circumspect about expressing sympathy with, or support for, Elliot Rodger. Sure, many manospherians – from MRAs to PUAs to MGTOWs – have long been half-warning, half-threatening those of us in the “blue pill” world that angry young men are going to rise up and take a sort of self-styled revenge upon their supposed female and feminist oppressors.

But when one man actually launches a “Day of Retribution” intended to punish the “blonde sluts” of the world (as well as any man who roused his ire or got in his way), most manospherians have tried to change the subject, denying any connection between his ideas and theirs, and in some cases even trying to pretend that the man who wanted to watch all women die in concentration camps wasn’t even a misogynist at all.

That’s not the case over at the CoAlpha Forum, a self-proclaimed “Reactionary Free Speech Forum” given over to a strange and scary patriarchal variant on manosphere ideology.

The main thing keeping the CoAlphas from celebrating Elliot Rodgers as an Incel Hero? He killed too many men – and didn’t “butcher” enough “sorority girls.”

In one thread immediately following the shootings, the CoAlphas wondered why Rodger didn’t kill more women. Cornfed complained:

 

The guy seems to have killed mostly men for some reason. I would have much more sympathy for him if he had confined himself to shooting up a sorority house as per his original stated intention.

Fschmidt, one of the site’s administrators, offered a distinct lack of sympathy to the victims, and indeed any victims of any killings in the United States.

America has a population of over 300 million human vermin, so if a few are killed, it hardly matters who they are because the numbers are insignificant.  A guy like him would have been useful to us alive.  The question is how to reach guys like him before they snap.  Maybe I should have posted to PuaHate (where he posted).  The average IQ there seemed pretty low, which is why I didn't post there.  But if that forum comes back, I will take another look.

Vegeta2 just came out and said it: In his eyes, Elliot would have been a true hero — if he had only killed more women.

Dont waste your time on Puahate. it is a cesspool. I've lurked there There are, I believe thousands of men like Elliot. Once in a while one of these men will want revenge for being rejected, humiliated and bullied. Had he just butchered as many sorority girls as he could he would have been a true hero. My problem is that his killings were random. For all we know there could have been a fellow Incel among his victims

Cornfed was also less than impressed with Rodger’s “haul” as a spree killer:

The dead victims of this guy appear to have been three Chinese nerds, some random guy and two skanks. Not a very admirable haul. People really should not do this, but if they do then they ought to put more thought into it.

In a second thread started several days after the killings, fschmidt postulated that Elliot Rodger’s real problem was that he was a “man of integrity” who suffered because he was pressured to “try to fit into a depraved culture that he could never really be a part of.”

And suprisingly, he got some pushback from one commenter. Though Moralmoe91 made clear that he “agreed with most of Rodger’s criticisms of: women, society as a whole, and the messed up male/female dynamics that are rampant today,” he just couldn’t agree with the killing, which he thought was wrong because, you know, killing is bad, and also very likely to cause big problems for incels and antifeminists like him.

Fschmidt offered a rather chillingly blase response to Moralmoe91’s contention that killing people was not such a great idea.

I don’t understand the point of condemning his actions.  I mean, I don’t approve but I am not particularly against the death of Americans.

In a series of coments, poor Moe did his best to explain to fschmidt that Rodger’s actions might end up hurting him too. And he repeated his apparently quite controversial notion that murder is actually bad.

You guys don't seem to understand what i'm trying to say... I agree with all of you about how messed up American Culture is, particularly the women. I can also identify very strongly with Elliot's pain... However what he did was wrong and only hurt our cause. Feminists have been assassinating our character and calling us hateful for years and because of guys like Elliot they now have evidence to support all of the negative shit they have been saying about us.  His actions did nothing to help dateless men.... It only hurt our image and made us look bad... That is part of the reason why dateless men have got to condemn his actions. The biggest reason being that murder is morally wrong.

No dice. Fschmidt was convinced by none of it. Not even the bit about murder.

Murder?  Killing is only murder when one kills a member of one’s own culture.  Modern Western culture is not my culture, so I do not consider killing its members to be murder.

That may be the creepiest thing I’ve read since Elliot Rodger’s manifesto.

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Wetherby
Wetherby
8 years ago

Damn, that kik harassment is pretty much the worst creepy PM I’ve ever seen. And of course some assholes are calling it fake, blaming her, bla bla.

According to her blog, she’s called the police – and quite rightly.

Not too surprisingly, the offending account has been deleted, but hopefully it’s still traceable.

kittehserf
8 years ago

I’m glad she’s contacted the police, Wetherby. I hope to God they charge this scum.

scott1139
scott1139
8 years ago

That evil shit-stain needs to be locked up until he realizes he’s not a fucking god, and that other people are just as important as he is. Just…ugh >:(

Flying Mouse
Flying Mouse
8 years ago

That kik harassment – wow, no entitlement there! Good for her that she stood up to that scum-sucker’s threats. I hope she can stay safe and comfortable.

What are all these guys going to do if they succeed in harassing women off the internet? Will they have a “Mission Accomplished” party? Or will they sit around and whine because they don’t have any girls to talk to, god, they were just kidding about all that skin suit stuff, why can’t women take a joke?

sparky
sparky
8 years ago

I hope the police actually take it seriously.

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

Cassandrakitty,
I have a daughter her age.

Miserable misogynist, harasser scum….

I hope the cops are on his doorstep asap, but I won’t hold my breath.

emilygoddess
8 years ago

I hope the cops are on his doorstep asap, but I won’t hold my breath.

Nah, I’m sure he didn’t really mean it. He’ll assure them that it was all a prank, maybe admit that he got carried away, but he’s really sorry and he’ll never do it again. And the officers will say what a nice man he was and tell her not to worry her pretty little head.

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

*nods*

ennis
ennis
8 years ago

Look, there are millions of guys out there,like Rodgers, with “no game”, and you never notice them, or see them or even care about them, until something like this happens, and we suddenly say, “Gee. how do these things happen?”. Wake up!

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