Oh dear. The Spearheaders are talking about the Slutwalks again. The discussion may be the worst on the subject that I have run across so far. Some of the lowlights:
Keyster seems downright pissed that women actually have the right to say no:
They’re high functioning children with sexual power and they don’t want you to forget it. They’re outraged that just because a young woman dresses and acts in a sexually provocative manner, that she might receive unwanted attention from young men that don’t appeal to her.
She should be able to dress like a street whore and abuse alcohol to the point of delerium and they feel compelled to lecture us on how that doesn’t mean this is an advertisment to be sexually harrassed, sexually assaulted or heaven forbid raped. …
They want the “RIGHT” to dress as sexually provocative as they want to without being constantly annoyed by lowly beta males. They’d prefer you not “sexually victimize” them, unless you’re hot and they’re into you, then it’s totally OK. …
Remember this: She didn’t bother to get dressed up for the likes of YOU. Her hope was a worthy athelete or Hollywood star might notice her and talk to her; not some weak, pathetic loser …
“We’ve got the sexual power, the power of consent, the gate keeper of the holy vaginal crevice. See our bouncing propped up cleavage, our long legs and glorious ass protruding from those heels? You want it don’t you?
….ha, ha, ha…you can’t have it because I SAY SO! Because I have THIS power over you, lowly little man. Bow down to me and beg me a little, I might even let the others see me talking to you, without calling the cops.” …
This isn’t feminism, it’s flaunting female sexual power in the faces of men.
You’re seriously complaining that woman have the “power of consent!?” EVERYONE has the power of consent. No one male or female is obliged to have sex with anyone they don’t want to. That’s, you know, rape. It bothers you that women are the “the gate keeper[s] of the holy vaginal crevice?” Who the fuck else should be the gatekeeper of a person’s vagina other than the person whose vagina it is? The mind reels. But apparently the 50+ upvoters of this piece of abhorrent nonsense aren’t bothered by any of this.
Demirogue, meanwhile, suggests we need to better discipline our women:
While perusing FB last week I came across the newest deviation of this mentality which is going topless. … And they want to cry about rape? They need to cry but only because people said enough is enough and started to belt them on their asses.
Women need to be controlled and on a very, very short leash. They’ve been given every right, every option, every opportunity to be something and what do they do with it? Abuse and manipulate it with reckless abandonment and incessant demands.
Geography Bee Finalist himself thinks the slutwalkers must be retarded:
I wouldn’t worry too much about these Slutwalk sows.
They have no redeeming features. None.
They cannot figure out that if you dress like a whore, you deserve to be treated in a disrespectful manner. Even conservatively dressed mentally retarded women can figure this out and conduct themselves with more propriety and intelligence than these Slutwalkers … .
Knuckledragger blames it on those damned suffragettes:
…we let ‘em drive, we let ‘em vote, and this is what we get.
Ridiculous to even offer attention to another excuse to dress like a whore, goof off in public, and not bring me a beer.
Any man worth his salt should fire any skank who was “sick” from work to attend this nonsense.
SingleDad seems to think that all accusations of rape are made up:
Rape is now the extra tax women charge men if some how their unsatisfied with whatever arrangement was made before or after any encounter in or outside of marriage.
Other lowlights:
Poiuyt agreeing with Anders Breivik’s “observations surrounding this femaleist pandemic,” while adding that he “is to be rebuked for taking the wrong cureative actions to solve it.”
Demirogue (in a second comment) complaining that “overvalued pussy is all [women today] have to offer and only to certain men.”
Anonymous age 69 explaining that “rape laws were intended to protect women of good character, from being sexually violated,” not “to protect promiscuous sluts .”
And more, much, much more. Many of the worst (including most of those quoted here) have many dozens of upvotes. Go read the thread yourself, if you think you can stomach it.
There are no arguments to rebut here; I can only repeat the basic message that the slutwalks are trying to convey: no one deserves to be raped, no matter what they are wearing or how much consensual sex they engage in. Even if they show some cleavage or prefer athletes and/or rocks stars to so-called beta males.
I have no doubt that NWO would help a rape victim who “deserved” his help. Which would mean…
Well, not a slut. You know, someone who looks slutty. Like, she had breasts and an ass and everything.
Also probably not a kid, as 15-year-olds are well-known cockteases.
Also probably not anyone other than a white American.
Also not anyone getting non-violently (i.e., drugs and/or intimidation) raped, or anyone getting raped by their significant other.
I guess that leaves some people over. But I suspect if it was his precious ass on the line he’d find a reason she’d been asking for it.
That pretty much sums it up for me Holly. Even if I did jail a guy for false rape, what would I do then? Pop open a bottle of champagne while I mull over my next victim? How would I ever get a boyfriend if I keep sending guys to jail?
Shades of Humbert Humbert there.
“In fact I’ve made it quite clear that I would risk my very life to stop a violent rape. Quite a misandric statement about me you’ve just rattled off precious. My precious, I’m so golem.
Like I said in the post you apparently answered, some drunken bitch in heat grinds some guys leg and if he grabs her ass and she suddenly feels mortified and cries sexual harrassment. Who ya gonna call, ghostbusters?”
All of this. In the same. Goddamn. Post.
Good god, nevermind watching what you say, do you even watch what you think? Have you ever considered that what you’ve learned is, you know, wrong? I do that all of the time. In fact, there are times where I’m glad to have made a mistake, because I have plenty of time to pick myself up and start over. My beliefs and intellect are challenged constantly, sometimes harshly, and I grow because of it.
Hell, aren’t you over 50? KFC was started by a man who was over 70. I’m not saying that you need to change yourself and become, like, the fried food pimp of America, but god, man, steer yourself before it is too late.
That you profess to being a manly man “hero” and then disregard half the worlds population (and even the male sex by your own logic) is horrifying.
@Holly
Weird. It’s almost like you can make decisions about your own sexuality…
Shades of Humbert Humbert there.
Humbert Humbert was at least shocked to find out lolita wasnt a virgin. NWOslave pretty much takes it as a given.
“Hell, aren’t you over 50?”
50? Seriously? Have you just wasted half your life on this silly notion that women are out to get you?
You lie about every little thing, NWO. You contradict yourself often and repeatedly. You contradict yourself even within the space of the same post, as redlocker pointed out above.
If it bothers you that people notice that you lie through your teeth about basic facts, about yourself, and about women in general, then stop lying.
Incidentally, this:
Grabbing an ass, when it’s not welcome, is definitely assault. Grinding is also assault. Basically, the law regards any unwanted touching as assault. So if you aren’t sure, then don’t do it! If you disregard my advice then I will take it as an indication that you are inviting accusations of assault, sexual or otherwise.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Although I don’t think grabbing someone’s ass in a situation like that is necessarily okay or something she should tolerate (grinding does not constitute consent to take it any further), I agree it shouldn’t be a crime or anything.”
Why not? He didn’t consent to the griniding, she didn’t consent to the ass grabbing. Why is what she did not sexual harassment? Is that another team woman thingy?
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“What punishment would you propose for teasers? Does it start with an R and rhyme with “bape”?”
Well played my precious, how about a little sexual harrassment charge all on a mans word. Ya know put her on the registry.
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“Hey, nice ass, NWO. I’d like to shove my strap-on up it. You wouldn’t have that ass if you didn’t want to hear about it. I’ve got a big old strap-on and I’m lubing it up for you. Wiggle that ass at me, baby, I’m gonna fucking impale it.
…do you feel flattered yet?”
Absolutely hysterical, first time you’ve ever said anything that made me laugh out loud. Wierd how feminists seem to have this strap-on fetish thing goin on. Any explaination you’d care to illuminate me with for this fetish of feminism?
everybody’s a comedian these days xD
I love how our trolls went from being “I’m here to tell you you’re wrong” to now heroic MRAs trying to mock the evil mockers of mockery! XD
Like I said in the post you apparently answered, some drunken bitch in heat grinds some guys leg and if he grabs her ass and she suddenly feels mortified and cries sexual harrassment. Who ya gonna call, ghostbusters? Did the guy in this little scenario ask her to grind his leg or is he “lucky?” So when she cries harrassment I’m sure you’ll jump right up and say, “thufferin thucotash, you was grindin his leg whadja think he would do?” My guess is you’ll scream bloody murder in sisterly solidarity.
So yea, sexual harrassment, (groping) does happen as well as rape, no doubt about it. On the flip side of the coin there are loads of women who enjoy dick teasing and lots of false accusation for numerous reasons. The harrasers get punished and the rapists get punished, Well the teasers get off scott free and the false accusers very, very rarely get punished. Team woman makes out pretty well in that respect.
“some drunken bitch in heat”
But how important is it to you that she not be raped? Regardless of how you morally feel about her choices?
Yeah, I know, you’d risk your life to save her from Foyet xD
the funny thing about that, is it’s always rly easy to make some hypothetical claim that you’d lay down your life to fight off some evil rapist with 1000 knives to say a woman… like THAT’S easy… it’s like it’s easy to say “I would die for my country!” in a hypothetical but will you live for it? Will you actually do things to help the ppl who live there? Will you volunteer? Protest? Raise money?
It’s easy to say that if you saw some woman being raped on the street, you’d of COURSE step in, it’s easy to say you’d tackle a rapist off a cliff if you had to. That’s easy to say, and it’s easy to just shrug your shoulders and then say “well I’ve done my part to fight rape because If I ever saw it I’d..” except that it’s so much more than that. If you don’t believe survivors, then you’ll never see them. If you believe men can’t help themselves based on how women dress and that the woman is asking for it, then you’ll see those encounters as being consensual.
On the flip side of the coin there are loads of women who enjoy dick teasing and lots of false accusation for numerous reasons.
If you believe this, it’s easy for you to just ignore sexual assault when it happens cuz it could be dick teasing and false accusations xD
But more than that… the truth is, most of the time, we’re not going to be around to see rape happen. We won’t be in the apartment, we won’t be in the house, we won’t be in the hotel room, or yes, even the dark alleyway. So it’s all well and good to say we’d stop it. But most of the time… we’re not there… probably almost all of the time… it’s about what we do the REST of the time. Do we victim blame? Do we spread rape myths? Do we notice when a friend of ours talks about wanting to “take advantage”of a drunk person (male or female)? Do we laugh when a male friend talks about being raped by a woman, and go “you were lucky man?” Do we shrug our shoulders at prison rape or other injustices to prisoners cuz “well they’re bad people, they ask for it”? Do we make jokes and make light of rape victims, male and female, so our friends don’t feel they can come to us if they HAVE been assaulted? Do we volunteer at a rape crisis centre? Or donate? Or try to help in any way we can (like my safe space project) Do we write against rape and rape culture, or create safe spaces for survivors? Or even just be a shoulder to lean on?
It’s not what we WOULD do about a hypothetical scenario where we stumble upon an armed rapist… it’s about what we’re doing with our lives NOW, and we do and say in our day to day lives to help fight rape, to help fight rape culture. :]
That’s what rly matters. It’s easy to say you’ll die to fight rape, will you live to fight rape?
“I went down to the Manboobz website
To get my fair share of abuse.”
NWO must be quite happy now, since he’s getting more than his fair share.
Why not? He didn’t consent to the griniding, she didn’t consent to the ass grabbing. Why is what she did not sexual harassment? Is that another team woman thingy?
If she’s grinding on him out of nowhere without his consent, then yes, that is actually sexual assault (not harassment). However, you then had him grab her ass, which confused the issue for me.
Well played my precious, how about a little sexual harrassment charge all on a mans word. Ya know put her on the registry.
Did you just say that it’s sexual harassment to NOT fuck a guy?????!!?!?!?!??
whoa.
whoa.
whoa.
wacky.
Absolutely hysterical, first time you’ve ever said anything that made me laugh out loud. Wierd how feminists seem to have this strap-on fetish thing goin on. Any explaination you’d care to illuminate me with for this fetish of feminism?
Gosh, sounds like you can’t take a compliment.
Please. NWO enjoys behaving the same way as misogynists do. He describes calling out to women in the street that they are “filthy sluts” as a “joyous” activity. He hates women. Or, if he doesn’t, he is so completely apathetic towards their fate that he can’t be bothered to make the minimal effort it would take to distinguish himself from men who really, sincerely hate women. That’s how I know he’s just lying again when he says he’d risk his life to help a rape victim. He can’t be bothered to indicate verbally that he respects women, why would he ever go further than that?
@SallyStrange
“Grabbing an ass, when it’s not welcome, is definitely assault. Grinding is also assault. Basically, the law regards any unwanted touching as assault. So if you aren’t sure, then don’t do it!”
But sweetheart, women CAN grind and grab till there hearts content. Lets not pretend like women are held to the same standard as men in this respect. I know in your pretend world women are angels and men are devils. Come now, if a woman grinds me I better damn well be flattered. If I grind a woman she’s gonna damn well feel sexually assaulted.
I thought we were all grown ups here but you seem to want to play lets pretend.
Captainbathrobe, he loves it. Look how happy he is to be off moderation. It’s impossible to feed your persecution complex when, out in the real world, most women pay you very little attention.
“But sweetheart, women CAN grind and grab till there hearts content.”
Since when? I got me some grinding to do.
But seriously, if you didn’t like it wouldn’t you tell her to stop?
NWO: When you say, “I am better at math because I am a man”… well men have penes, women don’t.
When you go on about how anyone with a vagina gets off scot free… well you are the one who thinks women need to keep, “it” in their pants.
What have you lied about?
Title IX.
Affirmative Action.
Equal Custody.
False Accusations of Rape.
The recent story about the guy who didn’t actually lose his kids.
The Wage Gap.
Slutwalks.
Whether or not women deserve to be raped.
That’s in this post alone.
That’s not dealing with your attitudes on the age of consent (and your confused flip-flopping on it), and VAWA, and Abuse Shelters, and Suffrage.
It’s not that you are a man which earns you the scorn you get. It’s that you are a dishonest person, one who drools over children, says women deserve to be raped, make false accusations of rape for fun, hate men, and in general are loathesome and vile.
Then you wonder why the women here (and most of the men) think you to be something less than a stellar human being.
You are either too lazy (or intellectually challenged) to read the text of the posts you link to (see above the story of the man shot in the face by his wife; said wife alleged by you to have gotten off scot-free on a “pussy-pass”), or don’t care that they are neo-nazis.
But we are morons because we don’t realise that the Rothschild’s (and the rest of the Jewish Cabal you accuse of secretly running the world) are funding feminism in the interest of destroying the world (and why… because they are evil and get off on misery?).
That’s why we mock you.
NWO, when was the last time you went out dancing in a night club or at a concert? Ball park number?
@Holly Pervocracy
Well played my precious, how about a little sexual harrassment charge all on a mans word. Ya know put her on the registry.
“Did you just say that it’s sexual harassment to NOT fuck a guy”
Precious you know exactly what I meant cause I made it clear. But I’ll clarify further. Tanked up tart grinds man. On his word he tells cops he was sexually assaulted. She says no. He says yes. I’ll bet team woman wins.
NWO, you can’t ask someone for their opinion, then yell “that’s not your opinion! I know you’re lying!” when they give it.
There’s a tiny grain of truth in that reports of sexual assault by women are often not believed, but it’s not exactly how you’re making it sound.
But sweetheart, women CAN grind and grab till there hearts content. Lets not pretend like women are held to the same standard as men in this respect. I know in your pretend world women are angels and men are devils. Come now, if a woman grinds me I better damn well be flattered. If I grind a woman she’s gonna damn well feel sexually assaulted.
What happens if you feel sexually assaulted? What happens?
Have any of us told you that you better “damn well be flattered”? Who forces you to? o_O
How do you know this is what happens in the “real” world? o_O It has not been any of our experiences… has it been yours? :3
You keep talking about these things, it doesn’t seem to be the world the rest of us live in… so we’re kind of wondering how you “know” what you “know” :3
NWO, you think 14 year olds at the beach are dick teasing. Do you think you should be able to press sexual harassment charges against them?
What’s the word for an internally consistent system based on an inherent fallacy?
ZRM – “Cult.” Which is a decent description of the whole MRM…
Precious you know exactly what I meant cause I made it clear. But I’ll clarify further. Tanked up tart grinds man. On his word he tells cops he was sexually assaulted. She says no. He says yes. I’ll bet team woman wins.
God, yeah, I hope “team woman” wins that one.
Is this your idea of an injustice?
Er, fuck. I mean, if he tells cops he was assaulted because she didn’t then sleep with him.
If he actually didn’t want the grinding it’s a different story.
I’m just telling you the law. If you feel the law is being unequally enforced then I’d suggest a petition, or a civil suit, or something along those lines.
Another NWO-brand blatant lie! Too bad you can’t get a patent on lying.
Yes, that’s probably true–but only for you, the individual person NWO, and that’s only because you are such an incredibly awful and distasteful person that it’s difficult to picture any woman feeling anything but creeped out by any kind of advance from you. And since you’ve made it clear how very, very much you hate women, yes, you definitely should take it as a compliment if some woman gets close enough to you for direct contact. But that only applies to you, the individual, not to all interactions between men and women. Remember, people hate you because you’re an asshole, not because you’re a man.
Lying again. You’re just here to be an asshole, like usual. And then try to put the blame for people’s distaste for your assholishness on the fact that you present as male. Not grown-up behavior.
A liar who engages in classic psychological projection as well.