Oh dear. The Spearheaders are talking about the Slutwalks again. The discussion may be the worst on the subject that I have run across so far. Some of the lowlights:
Keyster seems downright pissed that women actually have the right to say no:
They’re high functioning children with sexual power and they don’t want you to forget it. They’re outraged that just because a young woman dresses and acts in a sexually provocative manner, that she might receive unwanted attention from young men that don’t appeal to her.
She should be able to dress like a street whore and abuse alcohol to the point of delerium and they feel compelled to lecture us on how that doesn’t mean this is an advertisment to be sexually harrassed, sexually assaulted or heaven forbid raped. …
They want the “RIGHT” to dress as sexually provocative as they want to without being constantly annoyed by lowly beta males. They’d prefer you not “sexually victimize” them, unless you’re hot and they’re into you, then it’s totally OK. …
Remember this: She didn’t bother to get dressed up for the likes of YOU. Her hope was a worthy athelete or Hollywood star might notice her and talk to her; not some weak, pathetic loser …
“We’ve got the sexual power, the power of consent, the gate keeper of the holy vaginal crevice. See our bouncing propped up cleavage, our long legs and glorious ass protruding from those heels? You want it don’t you?
….ha, ha, ha…you can’t have it because I SAY SO! Because I have THIS power over you, lowly little man. Bow down to me and beg me a little, I might even let the others see me talking to you, without calling the cops.” …
This isn’t feminism, it’s flaunting female sexual power in the faces of men.
You’re seriously complaining that woman have the “power of consent!?” EVERYONE has the power of consent. No one male or female is obliged to have sex with anyone they don’t want to. That’s, you know, rape. It bothers you that women are the “the gate keeper[s] of the holy vaginal crevice?” Who the fuck else should be the gatekeeper of a person’s vagina other than the person whose vagina it is? The mind reels. But apparently the 50+ upvoters of this piece of abhorrent nonsense aren’t bothered by any of this.
Demirogue, meanwhile, suggests we need to better discipline our women:
While perusing FB last week I came across the newest deviation of this mentality which is going topless. … And they want to cry about rape? They need to cry but only because people said enough is enough and started to belt them on their asses.
Women need to be controlled and on a very, very short leash. They’ve been given every right, every option, every opportunity to be something and what do they do with it? Abuse and manipulate it with reckless abandonment and incessant demands.
Geography Bee Finalist himself thinks the slutwalkers must be retarded:
I wouldn’t worry too much about these Slutwalk sows.
They have no redeeming features. None.
They cannot figure out that if you dress like a whore, you deserve to be treated in a disrespectful manner. Even conservatively dressed mentally retarded women can figure this out and conduct themselves with more propriety and intelligence than these Slutwalkers … .
Knuckledragger blames it on those damned suffragettes:
…we let ‘em drive, we let ‘em vote, and this is what we get.
Ridiculous to even offer attention to another excuse to dress like a whore, goof off in public, and not bring me a beer.
Any man worth his salt should fire any skank who was “sick” from work to attend this nonsense.
SingleDad seems to think that all accusations of rape are made up:
Rape is now the extra tax women charge men if some how their unsatisfied with whatever arrangement was made before or after any encounter in or outside of marriage.
Other lowlights:
Poiuyt agreeing with Anders Breivik’s “observations surrounding this femaleist pandemic,” while adding that he “is to be rebuked for taking the wrong cureative actions to solve it.”
Demirogue (in a second comment) complaining that “overvalued pussy is all [women today] have to offer and only to certain men.”
Anonymous age 69 explaining that “rape laws were intended to protect women of good character, from being sexually violated,” not “to protect promiscuous sluts .”
And more, much, much more. Many of the worst (including most of those quoted here) have many dozens of upvotes. Go read the thread yourself, if you think you can stomach it.
There are no arguments to rebut here; I can only repeat the basic message that the slutwalks are trying to convey: no one deserves to be raped, no matter what they are wearing or how much consensual sex they engage in. Even if they show some cleavage or prefer athletes and/or rocks stars to so-called beta males.
NWO, I’m crushed. How can you declare victory and flounce, without first shaming me for my sluthood? It’s poor MRA form.
@redlocker:
When you see a miner stealing diamonds underneath the ground
Do the Creep (Ssssss) Do the Creep (Sssss)
And if all you ever wanted was a friendly little hug
Do the Creep (Sssss) Do the Creep (BOOOM!)
Good night! Have fun inventing the garden rake and the space station and fantasizing about only raping people who deserve it, NWO!
NWO, you lie about everything.
Women have been found in violation of Title IX and removed from positions as a result of those violations.
Affirmative Action can include women and men. Unless, of course, you mean that minority men are not actually men. Not that it matters. Affirmative Action doesn’t work the way that you think it does.
Joint custody laws are evolving on a state by state basis; perhaps too slowly but they are changing. More states are making joint custody, when feasible, the default. Most parents work out joint custody without involving the court system. Most men who petition for joint custody when it has not been granted by default, do receive it.
False rape accusations happen and no feminist on this board has ever said that they don’t.
You claimed that the man who immolated himself recently, outside of family court, did so because he wanted joint custody. A blatant lie.
It’s probably better if Rutee or someone like that comes to hand you your ass on the wage gap. You’re innumerate and it won’t matter anyway but she’s certainly done a far better analysis of why you’re full of shit then I can provide.
You show up on every thread about slut walks to talk about how much you dislike sluts. And every time you try to stay “on message” by saying that you just think sluts should be called sluts for being all slutty and stuff. And every, fucking time it devolves into a spittle-flecked froth of how you think sluts deserve to be sexually assaulted. Every. Fucking Time.
You don’t have to answer the question again, NWO. You’re record is all over the threads and you clearly, unequivocally, have expressed time and time again that you believe that women are responsible for being sexually assaulted. I’m not surprised that you’re incapable of making the connection between “women who walk around all slutty and stuff, what can they expect?” and “women deserve to be raped.” But that is, in fact, what you’re saying.
You’ve flip-flopped so much on age of consent laws, the Wings store should name a brand after you.
You’re a liar. You lie all the time.
@SallyStrange: Haven’t you heard? Women aren’t people, they’re gifts and toys that wear down after a certain amount of use…or something. That’s why it’s “shameful” to have had lots of sex.
(Cue MRA citing Susan Walsh as fact. I mean, yes, we’ve had lots of that in the past few days, but those guys multiply like fleas…on the web)
I notice once I showed up suddenly he becomes economical w/ his posts and circumspect xD
The “wage gap” argument really bugs me, because it usually comes down to:
“Women don’t get paid less because they’re women, they get paid less because they have shittier jobs!”
This also isn’t true, but I hate that this is even a rebuttal. We sure do have shittier jobs… yay us?
NWO, I call you stupid because you’re stupid. It’s descriptive, elegant, and succinct. If I wanted to really be juvenile, I’d call you a dickhead. Dick head.
Oh, and neener, neener, neener.
What about “nanny nanny boo boo”? That one’s a classic.
Ami, I’m pretty sure that very few people bring sexual assault charges when they’re grabbed in night clubs. I certainly never have. Now, if you won’t let go, that’s a different story.
Don’t forget Holly, women also get paid less because they spend more time doing unpaid labor. But that’s supposed to be okay somehow, because evolution decreed that taking care of children should only be paid labor if the children are not related to you. Or something.
I gotta say, the anti-Slutwalk faction does have one argument that’s logical, albeit based on a flawed premise: a man’s right to say no isn’t equivalent to a woman’s because men never want to say no and women ususally do.
Again, the premise is erroneous, but the conclusion does follow from it.
<troll class=”MRA”>Isn’t that the same thing?</troll>
I wonder if it’s too late to exchange my phone.
@Kirbywarp: HAHAHAHAHAHA
[Ami rocks]I think it’s more like “haha you can’t rape me”[/Ami rocks]
[xD]XD[/xD]
“a man’s right to say no isn’t equivalent to a woman’s because men never want to say no and women ususally do.”
Yeah, that’s troublesome, because that’s an assumption about men in general. I certainly have reservations about sexuality, so not every man is Don Draper. 😉
Though, you’re right in that MRA arguments tend to take logical bits and stretch them to ridiculous theories on how the world functions.
@Nobinayamu exactly :3 That’s what I was going to add. Like I’ve been grabbed plenty of times and grinded against while dancing… and if I’m not interested, I pull away… and they move on… if they persist and won’t let go of me, etc.. that’s obv diff xD
I’ve also seen two Stephen Brunts kissing but that’s a different story.. xD
Oops, I mean, I certainly have some reservations about who I would sleep with and who I accept offers from.
So, yeah, I’m horny, but I don’t allow people to touch me without permission.
NWO: There really is nothing to say to you. I can’t stop you from imagining me to be someone who reads wikipedia for in depth information.
But I’ve seen you quote neo-nazis. I’ve seen you say “World Feminism” is funded by the Rothchilds [sic]. I’ve seen you either unable to understand what things like Title IX, Affirmative Action, VAWA, Equal Custody, etc. mean, or engage in mendacity to try and convince others they mean what they don’t.
Yes, I use rhetoric, and logic, and allusion, analysis, sarcasm and all the other tools of communication.
I’ve even been known to use proper punctuation.
Ami: All of those are wrong.
Hey, everyone, don’t be hating on trenchcoats. A good trenchcoat can be pretty cool.
Think Bogart.
Hey Spear, you need to join chat…also do you like?
“Think Bogart.”
Yeah, but think that episode of Havey Birdman: Attorney at Law with Secret Squirrel.
Glad I had the spoons to read this today. I can’t even with this bullshit.
Yeah, well, I’d like to have invented things, but I was born in a mud hut in Somalia.
Of course, by dint of persistence and hard work I was, by the age of 4, CEO of three different Fortune 500 corporations. After completing accelerated Navy Seal training, I was admitted to graduate study at Harvard at age 5, with a double major of Advanced Neurobiology and Theater Arts. My dissertation was on the neuro-psychological underpinnings of sexual fetishism, which was later produced as an off-Broadway play called The Man Who Mistook a Hat for his Wife. It met with mixed reviews. Of course, I was cheated out of what was rightfully mine by feminists and their affirmative action.
Oh, and by the way I WIN THIS THREAD! ME! BECAUSE I SAY SO!
And now, 4chan beckons, so I will bid you all a fond adieu, which is totally a made up word.
Captian Bathrobe wins the comment thread.