Oh dear. The Spearheaders are talking about the Slutwalks again. The discussion may be the worst on the subject that I have run across so far. Some of the lowlights:
Keyster seems downright pissed that women actually have the right to say no:
They’re high functioning children with sexual power and they don’t want you to forget it. They’re outraged that just because a young woman dresses and acts in a sexually provocative manner, that she might receive unwanted attention from young men that don’t appeal to her.
She should be able to dress like a street whore and abuse alcohol to the point of delerium and they feel compelled to lecture us on how that doesn’t mean this is an advertisment to be sexually harrassed, sexually assaulted or heaven forbid raped. …
They want the “RIGHT” to dress as sexually provocative as they want to without being constantly annoyed by lowly beta males. They’d prefer you not “sexually victimize” them, unless you’re hot and they’re into you, then it’s totally OK. …
Remember this: She didn’t bother to get dressed up for the likes of YOU. Her hope was a worthy athelete or Hollywood star might notice her and talk to her; not some weak, pathetic loser …
“We’ve got the sexual power, the power of consent, the gate keeper of the holy vaginal crevice. See our bouncing propped up cleavage, our long legs and glorious ass protruding from those heels? You want it don’t you?
….ha, ha, ha…you can’t have it because I SAY SO! Because I have THIS power over you, lowly little man. Bow down to me and beg me a little, I might even let the others see me talking to you, without calling the cops.” …
This isn’t feminism, it’s flaunting female sexual power in the faces of men.
You’re seriously complaining that woman have the “power of consent!?” EVERYONE has the power of consent. No one male or female is obliged to have sex with anyone they don’t want to. That’s, you know, rape. It bothers you that women are the “the gate keeper[s] of the holy vaginal crevice?” Who the fuck else should be the gatekeeper of a person’s vagina other than the person whose vagina it is? The mind reels. But apparently the 50+ upvoters of this piece of abhorrent nonsense aren’t bothered by any of this.
Demirogue, meanwhile, suggests we need to better discipline our women:
While perusing FB last week I came across the newest deviation of this mentality which is going topless. … And they want to cry about rape? They need to cry but only because people said enough is enough and started to belt them on their asses.
Women need to be controlled and on a very, very short leash. They’ve been given every right, every option, every opportunity to be something and what do they do with it? Abuse and manipulate it with reckless abandonment and incessant demands.
Geography Bee Finalist himself thinks the slutwalkers must be retarded:
I wouldn’t worry too much about these Slutwalk sows.
They have no redeeming features. None.
They cannot figure out that if you dress like a whore, you deserve to be treated in a disrespectful manner. Even conservatively dressed mentally retarded women can figure this out and conduct themselves with more propriety and intelligence than these Slutwalkers … .
Knuckledragger blames it on those damned suffragettes:
…we let ‘em drive, we let ‘em vote, and this is what we get.
Ridiculous to even offer attention to another excuse to dress like a whore, goof off in public, and not bring me a beer.
Any man worth his salt should fire any skank who was “sick” from work to attend this nonsense.
SingleDad seems to think that all accusations of rape are made up:
Rape is now the extra tax women charge men if some how their unsatisfied with whatever arrangement was made before or after any encounter in or outside of marriage.
Other lowlights:
Poiuyt agreeing with Anders Breivik’s “observations surrounding this femaleist pandemic,” while adding that he “is to be rebuked for taking the wrong cureative actions to solve it.”
Demirogue (in a second comment) complaining that “overvalued pussy is all [women today] have to offer and only to certain men.”
Anonymous age 69 explaining that “rape laws were intended to protect women of good character, from being sexually violated,” not “to protect promiscuous sluts .”
And more, much, much more. Many of the worst (including most of those quoted here) have many dozens of upvotes. Go read the thread yourself, if you think you can stomach it.
There are no arguments to rebut here; I can only repeat the basic message that the slutwalks are trying to convey: no one deserves to be raped, no matter what they are wearing or how much consensual sex they engage in. Even if they show some cleavage or prefer athletes and/or rocks stars to so-called beta males.
pardon me, becket. come on man, if youre gonna turn your nose up at tv, at least allow me my classic film costume dramas.
@Samuel What does what your saying have to do with the slutwalks, exactly? Are you saying a man’s sex drive is too powerful and he will rape someone, like our lovey NWO believes? Or do you not? Because if you think it’s not the case, then you shouldn’t have a problem with slutwalk, and I don’t know why you’re bringing up porn, exactly.
NWO also was the talking about “Ionized radiation” causing cancer with mammograms on another site. He has such a lovely brain there.
Sharculees: I am well aware of the problems of IP (Disney, for example, is infamous in the machine trade [well in LA, where I worked] for the all expansive nature of the IP grab they do for all employees). I almost quit my present job because they tried to pull a grab which was so all inclusive as to make anything I might do, on the clock; or off, (and I mean anything) theirs as work for hire (the clause said anything I created which might be of use to the company was not only their, but imposed an affirmative duty on my part to disclose).
But NWO is explaining how clever he is. How his many wits, and genius raise him so far above female hoi polloi that there is no comparison.
Yet he claims he as, at least three times, done things of incredible profit for large companies, and not had the wit; the next time round, to see to it he has a way to profit from his brilliance.
As a result he is now making his living on 14 hours (or more) a day shifts as a dairy mechanic.
So he doesn’t learn, and isn’t able to figure a way to turn this unparalleled brilliance of his to his actual advantage.
So I suspect he is actually earning no more than he is worth.
He never explained what a super-dog would be like, though. Does it talk, or fly, or what?
Hes probably thinking of A Boy and His Dog
Which could be misread as an mra manifesto, i guess.
So, if you’re so brilliant, why do you work for such a miserable wage? Why aren’t you wealthy if you’ve invented all of these machines? Why are you facing competition from people with degrees in engineering if you’re such an amazing, manly inventor?
Did an evil feminist steal you patent?
Your amazing man brain couldn’t figure out a way to negotiate and our seek legal counsel for fair compensation?
My dad has filed multiple patents (although, shocker, they are all on closely related things) for his employers and he currently makes $0 from them. It’s not rare for inventors to get screwed out of their rights.
However, my dad is also a pretty smart guy who went on to other profitable ventures on the strength of those accomplishments (and of not being an intolerable asshole). He’s not currently repairing milk tanks. He also does not have trouble with, for example, the difference between “X-rays are, technically, radiation” and “a mammogram will give you cancer.”
Um, and he doesn’t hate women. I don’t think there is a patent that would justify that, anyway.
Shaenon, it’s the same manly brain that can’t figure out that Japanese words are Japanese.
@Samuel,
Yes, men have the freedom to masturbate when they can’t find a willing partner for sex. And? You know this is true for women, too, right?
NWO the liar has a “manly man brain”?
I’m having visions of a man with penis-shaped protuberances sticking out from his skull.
Like Pecunium and Sharculese have pointed out, I don’t really think that inventing something automatically equals tremendous profits. I’m also well aware that patent law is deeply flawed. I don’t know if anyone else caught a really interesting segment on patent law in software development on NPR recently? Fascinating stuff, especially the Patent Troll Wars.
But I digress.
What I’m saying, basically, is that NWO is an unrepentant liar, in addition to being dumb as a bag of hair and I don’t believe for a second that he ever invented a fucking thing. He may be a decent milk machine mechanic. I couldn’t say.
The idea that rape is committed by sexually starving men is widespread among MRAs because most MRAs are sociopath that cannot get laid.
Being an MRA and not getting laid seem to go hand in hand.
Okay Holly you suggested I double space, I did. I am not a good typer (Maybe I need to hire a female secretary to type for me to blog (or is that a misogynistic statement)
dude, if you want to express yourself, you have to learn how to present your ideas. you dont have to be a great typist. it makes it go faster, but its not necessary. if you dont type well, take time to reread. make sure there are spaces after periods. fix unnecessary caps. organize your ideas into paragraphs. if your interested in communication, its necessary to care about these things. because if people have to work to decipher your writing, they just wont bother. thats not their problem. its your job to put the effort into being understood, not someone elses to make up for the things you dont take time to do.
@Holly Pervocracy
Yes, yes I know sexual harrassment exists, it is not “pampering” to not be raped, blah, blah blah. I’ve heard the schpeil before.
This statement by you I take offense at, “Yes, it’s pretty obvious that you like (or get off on? ugh) the idea of women being raped if they “deserve” it.”
Now I have never said anything close to that. In fact I’ve made it quite clear that I would risk my very life to stop a violent rape. Quite a misandric statement about me you’ve just rattled off precious. My precious, I’m so golem.
Like I said in the post you apparently answered, some drunken bitch in heat grinds some guys leg and if he grabs her ass and she suddenly feels mortified and cries sexual harrassment. Who ya gonna call, ghostbusters? Did the guy in this little scenario ask her to grind his leg or is he “lucky?” So when she cries harrassment I’m sure you’ll jump right up and say, “thufferin thucotash, you was grindin his leg whadja think he would do?” My guess is you’ll scream bloody murder in sisterly solidarity.
So yea, sexual harrassment, (groping) does happen as well as rape, no doubt about it. On the flip side of the coin there are loads of women who enjoy dick teasing and lots of false accusation for numerous reasons. The harrasers get punished and the rapists get punished, Well the teasers get off scott free and the false accusers very, very rarely get punished. Team woman makes out pretty well in that respect.
Oh and that hollaback bullshit is exactly that, bullshit. Someone sayin hey baby nice ass as the woman dresses specifically to have her ass noticed is not sexual harrassment.
@pecunium- i get what youre saying and i know you know NWOslaves sob story better than i do, but i always think its worth stressing that someones ingenuity and mechanical skill arent necessarily tied to business acumen
In fact I’ve made it quite clear that I would risk my very life to stop a violent rape.
Would you risk your life to stop the rape of a slut?
Also, no one’s asking you to risk your very life. They’re asking you to do the much less dangerous but more pervasive task of not tolerating slut-shaming, slut-blaming, and rapist-excusing in your daily life.
Like I said in the post you apparently answered, some drunken bitch in heat grinds some guys leg and if he grabs her ass and she suddenly feels mortified and cries sexual harrassment.
Although I don’t think grabbing someone’s ass in a situation like that is necessarily okay or something she should tolerate (grinding does not constitute consent to take it any further), I agree it shouldn’t be a crime or anything.
Which it pretty much never is. So let’s move on.
Well the teasers get off scott free and the false accusers very, very rarely get punished.
What punishment would you propose for teasers? Does it start with an R and rhyme with “bape”?
Oh and that hollaback bullshit is exactly that, bullshit. Someone sayin hey baby nice ass as the woman dresses specifically to have her ass noticed is not sexual harrassment.
Hey, nice ass, NWO. I’d like to shove my strap-on up it. You wouldn’t have that ass if you didn’t want to hear about it. I’ve got a big old strap-on and I’m lubing it up for you. Wiggle that ass at me, baby, I’m gonna fucking impale it.
…do you feel flattered yet?
“Someone sayin hey baby nice ass as the woman dresses specifically to have her ass noticed is not sexual harassment.”
Not exactly. But it’s damn rude. You don’t hear women yelling “Shake it baby!” to a guy idly passing by.
@SallyStrange
“NWO the liar has a “manly man brain”?
I’m having visions of a man with penis-shaped protuberances sticking out from his skull.”
I’ve lied about………………………?
Your brains are in your skull, try to your mind out of your pants. Why feminists constantly associate brains and genitals I never understand. Why do feminists always say stupid shit like, “just because you have a penis doesn;t mean your better at math?” We men know that, the reason for math is ability is because of brain differences. My johnson and your vagina have nothing to do with it.
NWOslave, criticizing you personally for acting like a hateful asshole isnt misandry. its just an observation that you act like a hateful asshole. youre not a cipher for all man. you certainly dont speak for me, at the very least.
Like I said in the post you apparently answered, some drunken bitch in heat grinds some guys leg and if he grabs her ass and she suddenly feels mortified and cries sexual harrassment. Who ya gonna call, ghostbusters? Did the guy in this little scenario ask her to grind his leg or is he “lucky?” So when she cries harrassment I’m sure you’ll jump right up and say, “thufferin thucotash, you was grindin his leg whadja think he would do?” My guess is you’ll scream bloody murder in sisterly solidarity.
Again, your tortured hypotheticals reflect your own paranoia, they have no particular descriptive force when it comes to reality, and they certainly arent convincing. women arent out to trap you. as a general rule, they probably dont even think about you. you are not a victim, no matter how badly you want to be one.
NWO, you’ve already made it clear that you think women are sexually assaulted because they wave themselves around in front of men like “sandwiches” and/or “cars” or whatever other inanimate object you’re comparing women to on any given post, and you think they bear responsibility for any attacks.
You also equate male arousal with sexual assault on a regular basis.
You’ve made it abundantly clear that you believe that women bring sexual assault on themselves. You’ve made these statements numerous times on numerous threads.
This is what you believe.
I have no reason to believe that you would ever try and assist a woman who was being assaulted. You hate women and you think that we bring sexual assault on ourselves.
You’re also a fucking coward.
Who determines that the woman in your scenario’s outfit was designed to show off her ass? You? The guy doing the hollering? What if she’s in jeans and a t-shirt. What’s if she’s in your uniform of a baggy tee and loose fitting shorts? Are you showing off your ass?
Sharculese – I think about times that I go out dancing, and I hope most women here can relate.
I have one of two goals in mind:
1) Have a nice night, and go home alone. In which case, I’m not going to be humping up on a guy at all, unless I’ve changed my mind to goal two:
2) Take me home a fella. In which case, it’s not going to be much use accusing him of sexual assault, is it? They never come home with you after that!
“Play an elaborate mind game that doesn’t benefit me at all” just never occurs as a plan. Why would I want some random dude in jail? That ruins my night too.
Sharculese, NWO has described 14 year old girls, at the beach, as “shaking it like pros”. He literally believes that any woman or adolescent girl that he finds attractive is attempting to seduce him.