Oh dear. The Spearheaders are talking about the Slutwalks again. The discussion may be the worst on the subject that I have run across so far. Some of the lowlights:
Keyster seems downright pissed that women actually have the right to say no:
They’re high functioning children with sexual power and they don’t want you to forget it. They’re outraged that just because a young woman dresses and acts in a sexually provocative manner, that she might receive unwanted attention from young men that don’t appeal to her.
She should be able to dress like a street whore and abuse alcohol to the point of delerium and they feel compelled to lecture us on how that doesn’t mean this is an advertisment to be sexually harrassed, sexually assaulted or heaven forbid raped. …
They want the “RIGHT” to dress as sexually provocative as they want to without being constantly annoyed by lowly beta males. They’d prefer you not “sexually victimize” them, unless you’re hot and they’re into you, then it’s totally OK. …
Remember this: She didn’t bother to get dressed up for the likes of YOU. Her hope was a worthy athelete or Hollywood star might notice her and talk to her; not some weak, pathetic loser …
“We’ve got the sexual power, the power of consent, the gate keeper of the holy vaginal crevice. See our bouncing propped up cleavage, our long legs and glorious ass protruding from those heels? You want it don’t you?
….ha, ha, ha…you can’t have it because I SAY SO! Because I have THIS power over you, lowly little man. Bow down to me and beg me a little, I might even let the others see me talking to you, without calling the cops.” …
This isn’t feminism, it’s flaunting female sexual power in the faces of men.
You’re seriously complaining that woman have the “power of consent!?” EVERYONE has the power of consent. No one male or female is obliged to have sex with anyone they don’t want to. That’s, you know, rape. It bothers you that women are the “the gate keeper[s] of the holy vaginal crevice?” Who the fuck else should be the gatekeeper of a person’s vagina other than the person whose vagina it is? The mind reels. But apparently the 50+ upvoters of this piece of abhorrent nonsense aren’t bothered by any of this.
Demirogue, meanwhile, suggests we need to better discipline our women:
While perusing FB last week I came across the newest deviation of this mentality which is going topless. … And they want to cry about rape? They need to cry but only because people said enough is enough and started to belt them on their asses.
Women need to be controlled and on a very, very short leash. They’ve been given every right, every option, every opportunity to be something and what do they do with it? Abuse and manipulate it with reckless abandonment and incessant demands.
Geography Bee Finalist himself thinks the slutwalkers must be retarded:
I wouldn’t worry too much about these Slutwalk sows.
They have no redeeming features. None.
They cannot figure out that if you dress like a whore, you deserve to be treated in a disrespectful manner. Even conservatively dressed mentally retarded women can figure this out and conduct themselves with more propriety and intelligence than these Slutwalkers … .
Knuckledragger blames it on those damned suffragettes:
…we let ‘em drive, we let ‘em vote, and this is what we get.
Ridiculous to even offer attention to another excuse to dress like a whore, goof off in public, and not bring me a beer.
Any man worth his salt should fire any skank who was “sick” from work to attend this nonsense.
SingleDad seems to think that all accusations of rape are made up:
Rape is now the extra tax women charge men if some how their unsatisfied with whatever arrangement was made before or after any encounter in or outside of marriage.
Other lowlights:
Poiuyt agreeing with Anders Breivik’s “observations surrounding this femaleist pandemic,” while adding that he “is to be rebuked for taking the wrong cureative actions to solve it.”
Demirogue (in a second comment) complaining that “overvalued pussy is all [women today] have to offer and only to certain men.”
Anonymous age 69 explaining that “rape laws were intended to protect women of good character, from being sexually violated,” not “to protect promiscuous sluts .”
And more, much, much more. Many of the worst (including most of those quoted here) have many dozens of upvotes. Go read the thread yourself, if you think you can stomach it.
There are no arguments to rebut here; I can only repeat the basic message that the slutwalks are trying to convey: no one deserves to be raped, no matter what they are wearing or how much consensual sex they engage in. Even if they show some cleavage or prefer athletes and/or rocks stars to so-called beta males.
Bostonion: Oops. I forgot, I use a different avatar here then in the fora. I took this, photo, but am not in it. Mea Culpa.
“Are all women like that? Fuck no. In fact hardly any women are like that, but some are. ”
And yet the women who are not like that get raped too.
NWO: The cop was wrong. Let’s take your fictional example: Instead of going to the cops they react by breaking his arm and kicking his teeth in.
Should the cop have said, “well you got what you deserved,”?
The rest of your examples, are horseshit. People are not things.
NWOslave im prettty sure all of that stuff only happened in your fevered imagination. i mean if you want to respond to things that actually happen, that’s cool, but railing against the sluts that occupy your brain doesnt really convince anyone
@Pecunium
Actually moron, since I’ve worked on automated equipment pretty much always, what I really do is put other people out of work. Automation is ultimately self defeating. The more processes that are automated the less people are employed. The less people employed the less people there are with money to buy products. So I’m like a feminist in my own way, I also destroy the economy.
NWOslave the psuedo-feminist.
I have to give you credit for saying what you think, NWO.
Too bad that what you think is disgusting. Frankly, you’re so dripping with hate and stupidity that I don’t think I could stand to hear you talk about lug nuts. That you turn this hatepidity toward actual humans is just despicable.
So: Yes, harassment and sexual assault exist. They have happened! On Earth!
No, men are not uncontrollable monsters who can’t help assaulting women. And you call US misandrists!
No, it is not okay to tell women that they are to blame for being assaulted. This is factually untrue as well as spectacularly unhelpful.
No, it is not “pampering” to not be raped (or not be raped too often, or something.) I’m not seeing the pampering.
Yes, it’s pretty obvious that you like (or get off on? ugh) the idea of women being raped if they “deserve” it.
No, I am not pleased that you’re an actual person who is allowed outdoors, but that just makes you a beneficiary of the tolerant society that you want to destroy. If people were held accountable for their words and actions the way you seem to want, you’d be the first one to regret it..
Tightening the nuts on a tank of milk isn’t “inventing” it, FYI.
@Sharculese
“NWOslave im prettty sure all of that stuff only happened in your fevered imagination. i mean if you want to respond to things that actually happen, that’s cool, but railing against the sluts that occupy your brain doesnt really convince anyone”
This would be one of those times when if you said that to anyone they’d think to themselves, “please shut up!”
When your talking to someone and they get a glassy look in thier eyes thats not them being interested. They want you to shut the fuck up.
watching the 4th season finale of mad men, right now, just got to the part where henry sarcastically tells betty ‘no one’s ever on your side’ and i just realized, holy shit, NWOslave is Betty Draper. Same moralizing condescension, same paranoid belief that the world is out to get him/her, same mean-spirited impulse to impose his/her particular sense of order on the world.
NWOslave you are a tv caricature of a 1960s housewife.
NWOslave if you want to tell me to shut up have the stones to say it. dont project it onto other (fictional) people
@Holly Pervocracy
Since you refuse to stay on topic I’ll elaborate. When you get a bottle of milk that little bottle goes thru a dozen or so machines of which I invented none of them. Years ago I invented the machine that made all the capacitors for motorola phones, the process for checking the purity of molten steel in automobile plants, the machine that assembles the tine assemblies on roto-tillers and a few other goodies. Pecunium in his ultimate stupidity can’t seem to understand that when you invent a machine for the company you work for they own all rights to your design.
@Sharculese
“watching the 4th season finale of mad men, right now, just got to the part where henry sarcastically tells betty ‘no one’s ever on your side’ and i just realized, holy shit, NWOslave is Betty Draper.”
I couldn’t tell ya much about TV since I rarely watch any. Perhaps thats your problem. TV isn’t real. Your information for gauging real life is faulty.
Shut the fuck up Sharculese! Or am I still projecting.
Pecunium in his ultimate stupidity can’t seem to understand that when you invent a machine for the company you work for they own all rights to your design.
so… your problem is capitalism, not feminism?
@Sharculese
“so… your problem is capitalism, not feminism?”
My eyes are getting that glassy look in them.
Your information for gauging real life is faulty.
lmfao. i am going to use this burn over and over, but i am going to replace real life with reality because i think that flows better.
also i am going to go watch beckett. NWOslave do you think better of me if im watching peter otoole at his best rather than demon television?
NWO: You made this machinery for whom? Either you let your employer underpay you (for this automation you designed from scratch), are too foolish to establish a consultanting firm (if you are so good at designing these things) or you were too clueless to patent devices other companies would want.
Rather you allowed your genius to be stuck in the role of “work for hire”.
See, when I was doing machining… I was intelligent enough to arrange for a clause in my contract so that when I improved a process, I got a percentage of the profit differential in later iterations of the job, since all we did was rebid the jobs on the previous estimates.
I am curious though, which automobile company was also smelting its own alloy-steel?
Spotting your failures isn’t moronic. What others make of your defense of those failures… well I can’t help you there.
in all honesty i find this fascinating. before i got interested in securities and con law i wanted to do ip, and i’m from georgia so i know a couple of older country type dudes, and when i talked about ip they’d tell me these stories about inventing things and then basically having the credit erased by the company they worked for and yet never making the connection that maybe their exploitation as a necessary consequence of the system they supported
Holly wrote,Haha, Samuel is having a little tantrum about the oppressive feminist notion of paragraphs.
No one tell him about semicolons or he’ll just crumble from the oppression. Okay Holly you suggested I double space, I did. I am not a good typer (Maybe I need to hire a female secretary to type for me to blog (or is that a misogynistic statement)
Redlocker wrote Then you need to do some more research on Slutwalks, Samuel, and not from MGTOW/MRA blogs. How about reputable sources? Why not start with Holly’s blog?
From some of the comments here I surmise one of the meanings behind the various slutwalks is That just because a woman is dressed in any way she likes, it does not give the right for a man to harass or even rape a female. As some quoted here “Yes means yes, No means no.”
Listen A males sex drive is powerful.It is instinctual and ensures the continuation of our species. Women’s bodies are beautiful and men are visual. This is why Pornography is a mult multi billion dollar business. Statistics show that Pornography is increasing in popularity with the privacy of the internet. If a man wants to get laid without having to take a woman out, or even date a woman he can go to a prostitute. Prostitution is also a huge industry and “the worlds oldest profession”. For example, if a man was walking on a city street and he suddenly came across a slutwalk, he may see the so called “slutwalkers” and think they are beautiful, sexy, and he starts to get an erection. Now this man is a respectful man who would never harm a woman verbally or physically to get sex. This man in my example was raised to respect woman “no means no” and just because a woman is dressed in a certain way does not give a man a license for sex. In the past,thisa man could just go to a prostitute. Nowadays, after the slutwalk this man could go home and masturbate to porn.That is why porn is so powerful for men, they do not have to ask a women for sex or even have to respect any boundaries. A man can just go online and masturbate to women or he can go to a prostitute. That is why escorts can make lots of money-men are willing to pay for sex.
@NWO,
My apologies for the misunderstanding, but I wasn’t aware that there was any male analogue for “cock-tease.” That’s part of the problem. A douche bag is just an unpleasant person, usually male (though it used to be applied primarily to women). There is no male equivalent for someone who supposedly gets someone else aroused and then fails to follow through– just as there’s no direct male equivalent for “slut” with the same negative connotation.
Funny that.
“Pecunium in his ultimate stupidity can’t seem to understand that when you invent a machine for the company you work for they own all rights to your design.”
Depends on how much of your soul you signed away and how much you used company resources and time to do it.
@pecunium- actually, this is a point where NWOslave is right (although im pretty sure hes exaggerating his accomplishment). clever dudes who are good with machines but have never really been taught about contracts being taken advantage of by the companies that hire them is a real problem, and something we should be working harder to correct
@Sharculese
I don’t know what beckett is. the only sitcom I can say I actually watch is monk.
Pecunium – There’s an outside chance (which I almost feel bad about) that NWO is a brilliant and shockingly multitalented (kind of a wide range between capacitors and metallurgy) engineer who’s fallen into some kind of mental illness. Which would also explain the fall from seriously complex engineering to milk tank repair.
However, I think there’s a greater chance that he swept the offices and changed the lightbulbs at an engineering firm and thereby considered himself part of the inventing team. If that much.
This is the same manly brain that the thought the term “suffrage” was derived from the word “suffer”.
That manly brain.
NWO has shared from his reservoir of unique knowledge on many memorable occasions, but my favorite was the time he claimed that male lions provide food to the females in the pride. When it was pointed out that in fact the lionesses do all the hunting, he replied that if the lionesses came across a really tough enemy, like a hyena, they’d totally run and get the lion to fight for them.
I think this was supposed to prove that women are biologically incapable of having jobs. I dunno. It’s fuzzy now.
Wait, no, I changed my mind! The long argument about how evolution is impossible because otherwise dogs would evolve into super-dogs was my favorite! He never explained what a super-dog would be like, though. Does it talk, or fly, or what?
And what valuable information have I jettisoned from my brain to make room for this? Damn my female brain!