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Tom “Female Penguins are Whores ” Martin, banned from A Voice for Men for excessive feminism?

Tom Martin would be right at home in Second Life, apparently.
Tom Martin would be right at home in Second Life, apparently.

I realize that I may be the only one who’s really all that interested in sectarian infighting amongst the MRAs, but an old friend of ours has weighed in on the recent battles over the A Voice for Men satellite group MRA London, and I’ve learned some interesting things as a result.

The old friend? Tom Martin, the British MRA who famously lost an anti-male discrimination lawsuit against the London School of Economics and who is well known around these parts for his beliefs that 97% of female humans are whores, 100% of female penguins are whores, hard chairs are misandry, and that [TRIGGER WARNING FOR CHILD RAPE APOLOGIA] “pedophiles who pay children for sex are not really rapists, because the child consents, then performs the act, indicating they understand the nature of the contract.”

Martin used to be a regular troll around these parts, making himself (and the Men’s Rights movement that supported him in his crusade against the LSE)  look worse and worse with each comment he posted, until he became too repetitively obnoxious and I banned him.

Apparently he went on to have a bit of a run as a commenter at A Voice for Men, the self-described men’s human rights site that hosts an open call to firebomb courthouses and police stations in its activism section. But he was banned there too. Not for his misogyny. Not for justifying child rape. But for being … too feminist???

No, really. All this happened some time ago, apparently. But AVFM’s Dean Esmay recently unbanned him to let him post his thoughts about the MRA London fracas, and this exchange happened.

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure Tom was able to figure out pretty quickly that we hated him, and it wasn’t so much because of the whole “male wanting to be treated as a human being” thing so much as his “inability to treat females as human beings” thing. But as we know, the inhabitants of AVFM don’t really live in what most of us on planet earth recognize as reality.

In any case, if you want to wrap up your Memorial Day with some utterly surreal reading (non-USians can ignore this bit), I suggest you take a look at the rest of the AVFM thread from that point on. You will see DriverSuz describe Martin as a “male enabler” of feminism. And you will see Martin himself describe himself as a “feminist MRA,” and offer this strange semi-endorsement of feminists as potential dates:

[W]hen you’ve dated and screened thousands of women for potential dates, you get to realize, its the ones identifying as feminists who are the ones least likely to be gold-digging whores looking for an early retirement off the man’s toil. …

I follow the money, which is why I am a feminist MRA.

The money the state disproportionately allots to over-screechy victim-feminist wheels is wrong, and needs to be fixed, but pales into insignificance compared to the over-screechiness an anti-feminist traditionalist woman has lined up for any man unlucky enough to cohabit with her. A feckless housewife wannabe is far more a financial burden than an ill-informed egalitarian identifying as feminist who can be corrected on which sex owes the other money.

Tom Martin, such a romantic!

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lowquacks
lowquacks
9 years ago

To enrich is to make richer; presumably to endoctrinate is to make more doctrinarian.

Tom Martin fan (Tom Martin)

Testing, testing…

David Futrelle didn’t mention the reason I was banned from AVFM. I challenged founder of J4MB, Mike Buchanan (who doesn’t care for more women on boards) by arguing that less women on boards means more sex segregation, and that sex segregation is bad.

I also argue for more women down coal mines, up scaffolds, and on the front lines – but AVFM ignored that bit.

I’m making a documentary, to help people find the funnier side of life by renouncing prostitution in all its forms. You can get on board at my youtube channel, sexismbusters, and subscribe to my twitter thing @sexismbusters too.

titianblue
titianblue
9 years ago

I’ve dropped an email to the Master in case he wants to drop the ban hammer on Tom “you’re all prostitutes, prostitutes, I tell you! Martin.

Kittehserf
9 years ago

Good – I’m pretty sure Septic Splinter Arse “the pedophiles raping child sex workers are the real victims” Boy has been banned once already.

pecunium
9 years ago

Tommy, Get a Job. Pay the Court. Go away.

emilygoddess
9 years ago

I’m making a documentary, to help people find the funnier side of life by renouncing prostitution in all its forms.

Well, at least he’s finally realized that his documentary is a joke.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
9 years ago

@Cassandra: Endoctrinated means genetically altering someone so that zir body produces a new kind of hormone which makes zir easily suggestible.

ellex24
ellex24
9 years ago

Tom is making a documentary and ProPatria is writing a treatise.

Oh yeah, they’re gonna change the world. This activism thing is really taking off.

/sarcasm

Tracy
Tracy
9 years ago

@Tom Martin: I will watch your documentary with sheer glee if and only if:

1. We get to see a re-enactment of the whole ‘hard chairs’ fiasco.

2. There are whore penguins.

Otherwise meh.

Xanthë
9 years ago

Actually, it’s to be applauded that Tom Martin, figurative stopped clock, is occasionally right twice a day or so (yes, that hurts me to say it). Gender segregation is bad, mkay… though I’d require a lot more convincing from Tom that he’s going the right way about opposing it.

Kittehserf
9 years ago

“Figurative stopped clock” <3

Xanthë
9 years ago

“Septic Splinter Arse” XD

Howard Bannister
9 years ago

I’m making a documentary, to help people find the funnier side of life by renouncing prostitution in all its forms.

…oh, MY…

Find the FUNNIER side of life? By renouncing prostitution in all forms?

Oh, Tom Martin…

Xanthë
9 years ago

Thanks for pointing that phrase out, Howard. How very C of E of Tom to paraphrase the renewal of baptism vows, which include a line that is very similar, about renunciation of evil in all its forms: sin, the world, and the devil… and scented candles and unpadded chairs.

kittiwantsavatars
kittiwantsavatars
9 years ago

Tom Martin fan (Tom Martin) | May 29, 2013 at 4:31 am

Testing, testing…

Wait, did Tom Martin just come back? I thought he was banned. Have I already fallen asleep? I am rather tired today…

@Tom Martin: I will watch your documentary with sheer glee if and only if:

1. We get to see a re-enactment of the whole ‘hard chairs’ fiasco.

2. There are whore penguins.

Otherwise meh.

Seconded XD

Marie
Marie
9 years ago

And kittiwantsavatars up there was Marie. My danged name just got changed 🙁 But I’m back now.

auggziliary
auggziliary
9 years ago

I’ve seen whore penguins.They were wearing fishnets and everything! Oh wait, that was just garbage they got stuck in. Poor penguins.

educated peasant
9 years ago

Reblogged this on Educated Peasant.

Tom Martin fan (Tom Martin)

In case any manboobzers missed it, there’s been quite a reaction to the news that I’m shooting a documentary on August the 1st, called Laughing with Women, investigating if gold-digging impairs women’s joke-making ability, and if, when women reject gold-digging in all its forms, they can become instantly funnier. Here’s an overview of the reaction, from a comedy circuit blog, and from atheist feminist PZ Myers, including a link to the crew call: http://news.mensactivism.org/node/21643

And here’s a video Some Grey Bloke scripted, offering spoof support for the project

caleb
caleb
4 years ago

hia, im semi-new to this site and know nothing of commenting but i have to say this site is a breath of fresh air, both a place to warn about various dangerous trends and a place to point and laugh at the less harmful buts

unrelated/semi related i honestly wonder why MRAs dont complain about aphids or whip tail lizards?

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