So just move into your underground bunkers already, angry white dudes.
Over on Chateau Heartiste, the Heartiste formerly known as Roissy is in full-blown white supremacist mode today.
Apparently what got dear old Mr. H in an especially racist mood was a comment from a reader called Libertardian who suggested that, while in the good old days, civilization used to rein in the alleged worst tendencies of women, “in the West we had to abolish civilization because it was hurting people’s feelings.”
This little comment was enough to send Mr. H into a full-blown keyboard-smash Whitepocalypse rage.
Every monster and manboob, every fat feminist and single mom, every quadgender and third world wretched refuse had to be appeased and their crocodile tears dried, and the cause of all their histrionically dramatized hurty — white civilization itself — razed to make room for the glorious vomit of vibrancy that is currently prolapsing the rectum of the historical West.
You get double points if you were able to make sense of that mess of a sentence on the first pass. Why is it that so many cultural elitists and would-be defenders of civilization are such terrible writers?
Just a note on usage here: When alt-right types use the terms “vibrancy” or “vibrant” it’s their oh-so-clever, oh-so-sarcastic way of referring to racial diversity and/or people who aren’t white.
God looked over all that He had made, and saw that it was good. The leftoid looked over all that his ancestors had made, and saw that it was good enough to squander. And on the eighth day, the leftoid rested his gated community security detail.
Yeah, I can count the number of “leftoids” I know that live in gated communities on the fingers of my imaginary third hand.
Anyway, it’s helpful for Heartiste to remind us from time to time how comprehensive his hate really is. And that many of his followers are even worse than he is in this regard.
Naturally, in the comments, some of these terrible people added their terrible thoughts.
everybodyhatesscott, for his part, was in the mood for murdering elected officials:
I really hope I’m still alive to see it when we brings the guillotines back. I’d say 2/3+ of our representatives are deserving of it and it’s probably closer to 4/5′s. Granted, the gallows are more american.
cryo, in a comment in which he cranked the racism up to eleven, reported from the front lines of Hartford, Connecticut:
I was in the metro part of Hartford, Connecticut the other day. Might as well have been in the Third World. After working hours, all decent working folk flee to the surrounding suburbs. What’s left over is hideous to behold: packs of feral pavement apes roaming the blighted and burnt-out neighborhoods. What once were charming and historic Victorian houses are now blasted crack dens of eldritch horror. Niglets as young as 8 running around with loaded guns and terrorizing public parks. Whores peddling their fetid vaginas in front of Jamaican bodegas and Check$ Ca$hed places.
This is pretty much the future of any eastern seaboard city that isn’t attractive to SWPLs [white liberals]. It will get worse and worse until finally the madness starts to invade the suburbs. By then, whites and other human species will have to live in a constant state of uncertainty and fear. Section 8 housing and minority pandering are the greatest weapon the ruling class has: blacks especially are a potent biological weapon that can wipe out entire civilized communities in less than a decade
Dan Fletcher, meanwhile, suggested that the only solution to all this is to go to infinity … and beyond. Literally. Convinced that people turn to “artificial. Feminism, multicult, white-guilt” ideologies only when they’ve got no new frontiers to explore, he argued that
the halt on human space exploration has been such a tragedy. Space is the next frontier. Mankind’s survival and salvation. A new frontier and a new struggle for people to throw themselves into. Something real and dangerous. A stark contrast to the petty vapidness of the social justice whack-jobs and other assorted fairies. A true adventure.
With nothing to fight against, people fight against themselves in a desperate bid to fulfill their primal need for struggle. Time to get off this rock.
Dan, I agree wholeheartedly with that last sentence. I would happily donate to a project to put you, Heartiste and the rest of his fans on a rocket to Uranus.
W00t for quick learning bartenders!
Oh and yes Marie, you can have me the rest of the time. I’ll be on a houseboat on the Mississippi passing messages across the gender divide 🙂
One of the things that I noticed reading those tweets is how it is so much like being in an abusive relationship, with the stuff like “Look at me grovel. I’m so bad, I don’t deserve you. Feel sorry for me and tell me how I am good instead”. It ends up causing a reversal, where you are upset with someone, but then they do this trick. So you end up apologizing to them and trying to make them feel better. I used to fall for that all the time, and even if you understand it, it is still hard to break from the automatic reaction of trying to comfort the person at fault.
Cobra, you do know that kind of thing will get you banned right?
I, for one, root for Hugo F. Schwyzer’s downfall, at least in the “never ever ever paid to write or give a talk on feminism again” sense. I don’t want him ruined as a person, I just want him to shut up and stop manipulating and hurting people.
Also, denouncing people for sexually assaulting people =/= backstabbing, “being eaten alive,” or what have you. You HAVE to call out people in your in-group for offenses like that, or they’ll get the illusion that you tacitly approve of their behavior. Backstabbing is more like denouncing and heaping abuse on someone because they make a personal decision that you don’t approve of (like deciding to get married, to pick a wholly random example).
@Argenti Aertheri
W00T =D
and I see the cobra commander has managed to keep up his unoriginality. Bravo, dude. Nice spelling, also.
Has anyone emailed David? His last comment was way over the line.
@thebionicmommy
No, see… Cobra spelled it differently so it’s okay. It’s okay to use slurs when you spell incorrectly to get past the text moderator.
Pictured: a stunnning example of originality and wit. How will we ever stand up to trolls of such high qualilty?
Ha ha, Dances With Cobra-Penises has now been reduced to calling us c*ntts. XD
I love when we make them explode with rage.
Someone needs to help Pell’s folks find some good parental control software.
Ah, so that explains the spelling mistakes. I didn’t know it was moderated.
He’s still boring though.
@sarahlizhousespouse,
Yep, he probably thinks he’s pretty clever to sneak that one past the filter.
RELEASE THE FERRETS!
thebionicmommy – I already emailed David the moment Pell used “plebes”. The boy has lost what little ability he had to sock. He needs to do a remedial course.
And I see we’re at meltdown stage already! His mom must be due to tell him to go to bed soon.
Marie – he’s using quotes on “sonny” ’cause it’s what I called him. Kind of amusing, I’ve never been called sonny before.
I was more offended by the “eat a dick” part. Oh well, the best thing is to just ignore him. For people like Pell, negative attention is better than no attention.
Thanks, kittehserf!
Wait, where is this comment? I seem to have a dumb.
@kittehs
ah. It was kinda hard to tell, with all his inability to quote and what.
@thebionicmommy
so, shall we ignore him? (I mean I’m fine doing so if you want to. Just poking him for funsies atm.)
I’m in a banny mood, so I banned mr. cobra and deleted his final comment to boot.
well, my cmputer just got damaged, which i think was god telling me to go to bed. night all
@Marie,
If you like poking him for funsies, feel free. I was just kind of taken aback by the dick comment, so for me, it’s better to just ignore him.
@Argenti, he had said “Go eat a dick, c*nt” but it’s already deleted.
Ha! The mighty Banferret of Doom has struck!
Ah, well then, he was giving Cobra Commander a bad name, which is impressive considering wtf Cobra Commander was like!
G’night Fade, good luck with the computer issue!
I just took a look at Hugo F. Schwyzer’s twitter.
Well, he’s more coherent than Michelle Shocked, if less cheerful.
Lmbao I think Roissy really lost a bolt with that post. I didn’t really see any blatant supremacist statements in his article, but he does do a great job of flying under the radar.
This is why I hate the Manosphere to be honest: too much intermixing between Pickup and racist ideologies.
@Socialkenny: Well, pickup artists and racists both have a tendency to dehumanize others, so maybe it’s not that surprising after all.
I’ll give Kenny credit for recognizing the racism of the MRM, that’s not something you hear from a PUA.
@Radical- I totally disagree but I don’t think this post nor forums is the place to argue over this.
@Hellkell- That’s true. I’ve only heard 2 other PUA’s speak out against this BS.
My inner cynic says that the only reason Kenny can see the racism is that he’s black, and it’s easy to see prejudice when it’s aimed directly at you (I’d be curious if he sees the racism that PUAs and MRAs spout about Asian and Hispanic women as a bad thing). Find me a white PUA who’s aware of how racist that, say, Roissy is and sees it as a problem and then I’ll be surprised.
@Cassandra- I never actually thought about it before, but that could be the reason why the MRM and Manosphere rhetoric rub me the wrong way. Great analogy too with the white PUA and Roissy correlation.
When I first ran across the MRM I was startled by how racist it was (and then cynicism kicked in and I remembered that bigotry tends to cluster). Feminism has its issues with racism too (understatement), but with the MRM it’s not so much an undercurrent as a set of giant waves you could surf on.
Dammit, why do I always miss the fun Pell sightings? I knew it was him the moment he said ‘plebes,’ nobody else has ever used that as an insult.
OF had zero problem denying the racism of the MRM.
“I didn’t really see any blatant supremacist statements in his article, but he does do a great job of flying under the radar.”
He’s one mention of “white genocide” short of quoting his white nationalist buddies.
I’ve noticed a lot of leaders in hateful groups will say things which are vague enough they cannot be accused of bigotry. When their followers say things which are outright misogynistic, transphobic, racist, and homophobic the leaders can say, well, that’s not what I think. They can hide behind their vague language while letting the crowd do the dirty work of reaching the bigoted conclusion.
Racism: Invented so you’d let the rich guy rob and oppress you because you were too busy trying to keep the “inferior races” down to notice as long as he was oppressing them too, and continued in that spirit ever since.
I think this thread is the place to drop this.
A federal judge finds Stop and Frisk unconstitutional.
Long overdue, and it may not be the end of Stop and Frisk if the government remains as determined to discriminate as they have been… but it’s a step in the right direction.
Ending Stop and Frisk will definitely help men, particularly men of color.
Another news item from today that could help men & women of color.
W00t to both, extra w00t to the second because of the discussion, years ago now, as to whether the drugs inside us counted as violating drug free school zone (I swear this convo made sense at the time, ‘shrooms were involved)
Minding your own damned business in your own damned house that happens to be in one of those zones isn’t remotely a threat to kids.
On the other hand, the lesson some people derived from the Steubenville convictions is that we need to teach young athletes not to tweet/share evidence that they raped someone.
0_o
Fuuuuuuuck.
To be fair to those guys… that was the judge’s takeaway too. So they have good company in garbage monster land.
Wow, Nezumi. Not a big fan of how you co-opted racism for a talk about workers’ struggle. Not impressed at all.
Racism’s supposed to be a capitalist plot?
… wut?
So, just to be clear, this means that people who’re part of the ruling class can’t be racist?
And nobody from times and places that aren’t capitalist can be racist at all.
I’m… just referring to the probable sociological origins of modern racism. It can’t be reliably traced back farther than the colonial era, and if not intentionally created, was at least cultivated as a tool to divide black slaves from white indentured servants. (who were in roughly the same social rung and had largely the same situation, beyond that indentured servants were supposedly able to be freed by completing their work) If the whites were convinced they were superior to the “animals” who they otherwise shared great common ground with, they were less likely to organize together for revolt or other attempts to improve their station.
And although this isn’t the only framework in which it exists nowadays, it continues to be exploited in this manner, to divide the lower classes to aid in their exploitation and keep them from organizing against the elite which oppress them. Republicans exploit and foment racism to get lower-class whites to vote against their own interests so they can keep blacks down and so that they don’t recognize their common ground which would allow them to more effectively organize and change things. The Racist Southern Democrats did much the same thing, and LBJ has a nice quote about the topic.
The quote you take issue with was a quick soundbyte encapsulating these more complex constructions and making them easier to quickly digest and to repeat, at the expense of losing some of the details.
To further clarify:
I was not specifically referring to worker’s struggle, per se, in the traditional Socialist/Communist construction, but rather to the repeated framework of elites and oppressed along class lines that appear even in non-capitalist societies. They appear in Feudalism, in Communism as it has ever actually existed in practice, in Democracy, in Monarchy, etc. Likewise, given that such patterns repeat themselves throughout societies, suggesting that racism can’t exist in a non-capitalist society is ridiculous, even before we disregard that racism is exploited to create such separations, but exists as an independent entity.
I apologize, I should have been more clear in the first place.
Except, modern racism /= modern racism in the US/ the West. Also, racism in the US/ the West is not just White supremacy.
Nezumi, that’s universalising American colonial history. Colony == black slave system.
And even if we Do take Nezumi’s strict USA colonialist perspective… the genocide of the folks originally living in the USA predates slavery. So no, modern US racism couldn’t have just formed for slavery purposes.
So now we’re saying that racism was always really about white versus black? You do know about the history of colonialism in Asia and India, right? Because I’m pretty sure that, for example, the brutality that characterized the British colonial authority in India wasn’t actually about dividing black slaves from white indentured servants.