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Why is it worse for women to cheat than for men? “Because Penis,” Redditor explains

Cloudy with a chance of … you don’t want to know

By David Futrelle

From the Unpopular Opinions subreddit, a rather ingenious explanation as to why it’s much, much worse for men (well, cis men) to cheat on (cis) women than it is for women to cheat on men:

Girls cheating on guys is 10 times worse than guys cheating on girls because Penis. (self.unpopularopinion) submitted 15 days ago by OpinionManVIP Practically speaking, the main pieces of equipment involved in the act of sex are he penis and the vagina. When a guy cheats and has sex with a different girl, it’s just another hole. Sure maybe it can be tighter, but it’s pretty much the same deal. When a GIRL cheats on a GUY and experiences a new penis, she experiences something different that her boyfriend can NEVER give her. If the guy she’s cheating with is bigger, smaller, or even just shaped in a certain way there are things every guy has in his arsenal that are his signature strengths / weaknesses. And for females, that makes the experience of cheating so much more to be guilty about.

This was an unpopular opinion even for Reddit, with everyone in the comments arguing against this unique insight from OpinionManVIP, who not only seems to have never had sex but also to have never watched any porn. Seriously, dude, if you believe this you are Very Bad at Sex.

H/T — r/TheBluePill

275 replies on “Why is it worse for women to cheat than for men? “Because Penis,” Redditor explains”

@Victorious Parasol

The Pearl, you say? I’ve seen the kinky side of that era, but that’s a name that I’m not familiar with.

I always think of the Victorian era as a time where people put a lot of emphasis on phony images. Piety combining with greed. False notions of chivalry and the complete rewriting of medieval history. Revivals of older architectural styles that border on tacky (I’d argue that Casa Loma crosses that border in several places). Public repression of lust while carrying on numerous secret liaisons, often ones that resulted in illegitimate children. It was probably worse during the Tudor or Georgian times, but the trappings of Victorian life just seemed to emphasize this image more that those other periods.

I could be wrong, though.

😀

And batteries beat Cleopatra’s tube of angry bees? 😛

(I’m serious. Cracked up for about a week when I first read that. Still makes me smile)

I’ve recently learned about the Victorian fad for pierced nipples — both male and female — and the pearl-clutchers’ shocked reaction thereto.

My contribution to the “kinky Victorians” discussion.

Yeah, but they didn’t have battery-operated vibrators. 😉

Incidentally, Casa Loma’s tenant Sir Henry Pellatt, owned the Toronto Electric Light Company. His neighbour, Albert Austin, owned Consumer’s Gas (founded by his father).

I’ll let you guess which house was wired for electricity and vibrating sexytimes first. 😛

All these Internet Nazis keep saying the Empire from Star Wars were the good guys and I was half convinced the “independent contractors” bit from Clerks (or was it Clerks II) was the source of that idea until I realized this was the Internet we’re talking about here.

Also, my first college roommate loved Clerks, and he was an asshole, so I formed a poor opinion about the film early on and haven’t really examined it.

For those who never seen ‘Clerks’ .

@JDSM Cute theory… So if I had sex without falling in love I must be a hooker/porn star right? Lets see I think I did it with at least 4-5 menz before I found the love. I wish I’d known I would have charged them monies.
Also a man fell in love with me once before we had sex. Totally head over heels he was. How did that happen? He must be some kind of Beta-Cuck. I love my Beta-Cuck, he is so good at virtue-signalling. Do you know what the opposite of virtue-signalling is; Asshole-signalling.
Your understanding of relationships is generalised pop-phsycology of a fairly low kind. Not as primitive as most MRA screeds, indeed fairly nuanced compared to the OP but still a pale shadow of the complex reality at hand.
You do appear to have pulled all of your “facts” directly out of your ass. Hence the requests for citations.
Really human relationships are in the higher order of complexity and it is pointless and grotesque to try and condense their essense into a few paragraphs. It displays a gross level of arrogance that you even tried.

Do you want to play?

All these Internet Nazis keep saying the Empire from Star Wars were the good guys and I was half convinced the “independent contractors” bit from Clerks (or was it Clerks II) was the source of that idea until I realized this was the Internet we’re talking about here.

I’ll use this quote as an excuse to post this very funny anecdote about the Star Wars RPG:

I choose to believe that the Victorians had ornate steam-powered vibrators of brass and ivory, and nobody can convince me otherwise.

As for Victorian repression:

@Moggie

They did (sort of, they were more early Sybians than vibrators). Both steampowered ones and pneumatic ones – which also gives me the giggles thinking about some woman shouting “More coal!” 😉

Polished walnut and wrought iron dildo for me please! And I wants it sail powered somehow.

The Nunberg thing is unreal. Somehow, we seem to have been switched to an even dumber timeline.

Polished walnut and wrought iron dildo

Seriously? One part cold metal, the other part liable to give one splinters where one really does not want splinters?

I’ve always liked the idea of a Victorian physician patiently explaining to a husband how he is to use this new medical device at home, to relieve his wife’s hysteria and melancholy. Neither of them think it’s at all sexual; there’s no penis involved, after all.

Well, I actually have no other hidden agenda or ulterior motive than to seek forums whenever and whenever for the truths of life which have been revealed to me as a result of my searching for them…

As the Russian writer Chekhov once quipped, if you want to be Happy, get Married, if you do not, you become a Philosopher (but whether they are indeed Kings is arguable).

Just as “selfish” genes seek to replicate themselves into eternity , so do their counterpart , memes (in their original sense) …

The “Holy Spirit” of knowledge compels me to speak the truth to whomever may be listening …

PS, there is a reason why internet search-engines were invented, you know…

PPS NTR may seem “quaint” to you ladies, but then again, you are not males, and so do not and can not know our hearts, and the pain of such betrayal , which you yourselves are the root causes! Oh, how sad it is to be a male! Our existence painted in both the red of desire and the black of despair! Tsk tsk tsk

I don’t see any links to JSDM’s assertions or responses to anything specific in their last comment. Does anyone see any links to JSDM’s assertions or responses to anything specific in their last comment?

It’s like they don’t actually want anyone to be able to figure out if anything they typed is true.

PPS NTR may seem “quaint” to you ladies, but then again, you are not males,

The person who asked what NTR is actually is a man.

You shouldn’t assume the gender of everyone here.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

This is that one troll who had all those conspiracy theories about the Catholic Church and Chaucer, right?

NTR may seem “quaint” to you ladies, but then again, you are not males

Nobody said “quaint”, you fucking asshat. You’re quoting nobody.

Why do MRA trolls always assume:
1. we’re all women
2. it’s normal to call women “you ladies”
3. all men obsess over the same porn categories they do?

I don’t know who I feel more sorry for right now: Sam Nunberg or JDSM.

Mm, Nunberg wins. JDSM didn’t commit major faux pas on live TV.

@ jdsm

Oh, how sad it is to be a male! Our existence painted in both the red of desire and the black of despair

I’m male; and it’s frikkin ace!

Seriously I’ve been doing it for ages now; I think I’ve really got the hang of it. And it’s wonderful. Especially for us white cishet types.

Sometimes it feels almost like the whole system is rigged in our favour.

@ Alan – So, I gotta ask. If you had a client who started babbling on live TV the way Nunberg did, how long would he stay your client?

Oh I’ve had worse (including one guy who tried to plead guilty just after the prosecution dropped the case against him).

But in a career where it’s often difficult to give advice “Am I going to prison?” might be one of the easier questions to answer here.

You see this is where he’s missed out on a classical education.

Subpoena – “under penalty…”

Yep, I can see that. People just don’t appreciate the Latin roots like they used to.

Oooooh, Imaginary Petal is here! Seconding PeeVee’s greeting 💖😻

@Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger

Well “trap” dojins might count as bi since they often feature amab male identifying characters that present as female with male partners.

As an aside I like the Japanese term for it (otokonoko) so much better,
its basically an untranslatable pun meaning male maiden.

@JDSM
I’m amab (enby identifying) and NTR, mindbreak and rape are decidedly not my favorite type of porn but is rather popular with the chans,
give me cute and fluffy lgbtq+ with a side of kink any day over that drek.

He came back?!?

https://buffy.mlpforums.com/monthly_03_2014/post-18351-0-10936700-1395365883.gif

eeeheeeheeeheeee

@JDSM, welcome back! Most trolls just show up, drop a poop in the forums, and then disappear! Congratulations on your courage. I mean, let’s set Dunning and Kruger aside here, obviously; well done on actually having a spine.

Now let me get my carving knives

Well, I actually have no other hidden agenda or ulterior motive than to seek forums whenever and whenever for the truths of life which have been revealed to me as a result of my searching for them…

As the Russian writer Chekhov once quipped, if you want to be Happy, get Married, if you do not, you become a Philosopher (but whether they are indeed Kings is arguable).

Seeking truth? No, you aren’t seeking truth. You’re expounding. You’re pontificating. Seeking truth requires listening. You have to engage with something to learn from it – to step inside the thing and see through its surfaces.

What you’re doing is quipping and deriding. If you’d like to actually find some truth here, you need to engage honestly.

Just as “selfish” genes seek to replicate themselves into eternity , so do their counterpart , memes (in their original sense) …

I see someone’s read Dawkins. Tell me, then; if you’re accusing us of propagating the memetic payload of a durable but untrue meme, how do you ensure you aren’t doing the same? I mean, come on, claiming to be on a “quest for truth” is a pretty heavy meme of its own (and under which is often carried a whole host of other, more subtle, less honest memes…)

The “Holy Spirit” of knowledge compels me to speak the truth to whomever may be listening …

I suggest that the holy spirit you’re hearing is situated to your stern amidships, and is somewhat more talkative after beans and cabbage. I don’t believe you know what the “holy spirit of knowledge” sounds like, and your following line is why…

PS, there is a reason why internet search-engines were invented, you know…

… because you believe that knowledge comes out of a search engine. It doesn’t.

The Googles will happily tell you that men are the real oppressed gender. That’s true. It’ll also tell you that the earth is flat, the moon landings were fake, global warming is a hoax, and the illuminati control the United Nations. Search engines will spit up whatever drek you search for. The PageRank system (Googles’ recommender algorithm) is based on page frequency and a few other unknowns. Truth is not even on the list.

If you believe in X, searching a search engine for whether X is true won’t help – you’ll find evidence for X in spades. For all X.

Search engines are a data retrieval mechanism. They provide grist for the mill. You must rely on other mechanisms to determine their truth. I know mine, but I am frightfully interested in learning yours.

How do you do it, truth-seeker? How do you determine whether a thing is true or not? If you’re actually here honestly, to serve the holy spirit of knowledge, you should be overjoyed to share the tools of securing truth.

Please, do share. I’m actually honest about that, no foolin or sass. If you do, I’ll extend you tee same courtesy and tell you mine.

I think so too, @WWTH! Just that, well, if that’s how he thinks you can find out evidence for stuff, it doesn’t look so good for his whole truth-seeking thing.

“Just google it yourself!” when used to support an assertion often means that they did not get it from a reliable source.

This site is amusing enough to pass the time hehehe

BTW my favorite MLP pony is also Fluttershy too , you have Good taste mmmmm …

As for determining what is truth, well, there is my own male intuition! How’s that for Gender equality eh?

BTW I have already found the my own minimum truths for now tsk tsk tsk

Ohhh … a philosopher.

You know what they say about philosophers. Everyone is one after the 5th drink, 3rd joint, or 1st death. Thats not a way to go through life. 😛

Now if you’re looking for wisdom – you’ll find it here. Start with Scild and work out from there.

Finding wisdom, however requires but one thing of you. Closing your mouth and opening your ears.

So I’m a 23 year old feeeemale virgin who is a slow learner and the education in my schools sucked (but of course I’m in America) and even I know that’s not how bodies and sex work. Reading this kinda broke my brain for a little bit.

The sheer twee preciousness of typing out ‘tsk tsk tsk’ as a coda to each comment is remarkable. I wonder how long this particular monkey will caper and mow until he runs back to the He-Man Woman Hater’s Club™ tree fort clubhouse to share his thrilling tale.

Alan Robertshaw, I second your vote. Being white and male in contemporary American society is definitely playing the game on Easy setting: you’re not guaranteed to win, but a lot of other people are dealing with bigger challenges.

I actually have no other hidden agenda or ulterior motive than to seek forums whenever and whenever for the truths of life which have been revealed to me

If you’re seeking truths, buddy, you would be better served by listening and considering than you would by wanking all over the comments section.

As for determining what is truth, well, there is my own male intuition!

Male intuition?

Lemme give you a little background on me, JDSM, as one man to another. About six months ago I left the field of space science to become a data scientist. I used to use supercomputer simulations to find out the truth about stars and orbital patterns; now I use Python/SQL/SAS to find out the truth about commercial spending patterns. This is something I enjoy and am good at.

Finding truth, especially of faraway stars and stuff, is hard. Really hard. One of the many problems is that we have to properly understand the issue. If we don’t, then we end up blinded by our own biases and assumptions. That goes for every field, not just the hard sciences: if you ever watch Stephen Molyneux review a movie you’ll see that he barely saw the movie at all, only his own assumptions about it.

To put it another way, “intuition” is a synonym for “prejudice.” This is true whether you’re male like you or I, or are part of any other gender or none.

Do not be guided by your prejudice. Set aside your intuition, like a reverse Luke Skywalker, and actually find stuff out about the world. You do that by listening.

JDSM Your intuition is overated. Know now that women are also hurt when they witness a partner cheating. Truth. Fairly obvious truth at that.

Hello EJ (The Other One) ! Nice to see you again too. Hope you feel healthy !

Oh, how sad it is to be a male! Our existence painted in both the red of desire and the black of despair

Hmm… To much Stendhal for you. Try again, dear Jarred Soliloquy Derivative Masculinite.

@Surplus to Requirements

Seriously? One part cold metal, the other part liable to give one splinters where one really does not want splinters?

Eh, the are a bunch of manufactures making wood and metal toys today… they seem popular enough, though the wooden ones are a bit pricey :-0

Well prepared wood won’t splinter under use (unless you’ve got a pelvic floor that can crush rocks, or something) and if you warm up metal things they do hold their temperature…

(and if the thought of wooden toys worries you, wait till you see a glass one!)

Ah, of course females also get hurt by their male mate’s philandering too , but males still get hurt much more by their female mate’s philandering (not even going into Paternity Fraud yet). After all, being latently bisexual, females can always go for the harem ending option, and still be Happy (sister-wives) but males generally cannot, reverse-harems being as relatively rare in both fact and fiction as a simultaneous super blue blood moon (else Stephanie Meyer would have ended Twilight differently hehehe) , without entirely emasculating himself to the point of wholesale self-abnegation! And just who would even want that eh? Not even the most sadistic dominatrix would desire or accept such an omega excuse for a male tsk tsk tsk

reverse-harems being as relatively rare in both fact and fiction as a simultaneous super blue blood moon

I’ve found that they’re relatively common in the circles I move in. There are, after all, more men who want to sleep with promiscuous uber-hot women than there are such women.

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