No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.
Congratulations on the election, Ohlmann, John, Occasional Reader and all our other Mammouthiers Français.
2016 was the year that the Fascists won. 2017 seems to be going far less well for them.
Pleased to hear that France has at least avoided the worst. Hopeful for our French friends.
(I read both Guns, Germs & Steel and Life of Pi. I never finished Brief History of Time. I did read Long Walk to Freedom and A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius though.)
@Ouroboros13
Yes. Please just chill. Indulging your anger won’t lead to progressive social change.
If you chill, people will be less likely to think you’re a troll trying to provoke regular posters here into saying something outrageous.
@Ohlmann
Congrats on avoiding a fascist state. Not to mention Macron having over 60% of the votes to boot.
I could wish for Le Pen to have been not just soundly defeated but utterly routed (like 95 to 5 or something), but yes, it’s great and I can only hopehopehope the FN fails to rally from this defeat and goes into terminal decline now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM
Alright, France, you win this round 🙂
Next is UK and Germany later this year? Any other hi profile ‘populist’ uprisings need squashing? Also, it’s weird that we should all be rooting for a buncha women to lose big elections. May and le Pen and Weidel are all terrible and should definitely lose. Merkel too maybe. But can we all at least agree that it’s a little weird?
CONGRATULATIONS, FRANCE!!!!!
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@Ooglyboggles : I am still worried by two things.
The first one is that 35% for a party that far right is distressing. While I am happy Le Pen did less than the 40% I though she would, it’s still 1/3 of the population who don’t mind voting for someone whose friends wear nazis uniforms. Ten year ago, it was 18% “only”.
The second one is that Macron is pretty much the candidate of the statu quo, and seem woefully inadequate to answer to the fears of the people who vote FN*. Meaning angers will continue to build up on populars classes, work rights will continue to get eroded, and overall it’s likely that the FN will continue to rise.
That being said, there is some silver lining. Le Pen had lost significant supports by showing her hand too soon, and it’s not impossible that defeat will weaken her for a long time. The high level of blank votes might make Macron a bit more prudent. And, of course, there is another battle soon to limit the number of FN member in the parliament, a battle that is traditionally much harder for the FN than presidentials.
* note : a good portion of them, at least if my family is representative, see racism and bigotry as a solution to their woes, not as an end by itself. Meaning an actual left-wing leader could fix their problems another way and they would abandon the FN ship.
Phew. Congratulations, French Mammotheers. I’m very glad to hear it.
@Dalillama
One of these days I will get around to them. Oooooone of these days. Okay, probably never.
I’ve been trying to read Moby Dick for decades and never made it past page 5.
There’s good evidence though that I’m the only person who’s ever read the the Armed Forces Act in its entirety including the appendices.
Also, Le Pen tried to use fake news to discredit her opponent. This time, it didn’t work. If we believe the surveys, it actually was harmful.
O/T but perhaps Paradoxy or one of our other graphics experts can assist. Noticed a lot in documentaries nowadays they apply a sort of ‘3D’ effect to old photos. So as they pan across them the figures in the foreground stand out from the background and you can see stuff appear behind them.
How do they do that?
@opposablethumbs:
I read something earlier today that suggested that Le Pen intends to dissolve her party herself. Her plan is to apparently create a joint Right-wing party that included more moderate people. I’m not sure that she’ll have much success as long as she’s at the helm.
@M’lud Marchioness:
To quote the great Ms Sarkeesian (emphasis mine): “Women need heroes and villains who look like us.”
@Alan:
It’s funny what being stuck at a railway station late at night does for your reading habits. :p
@Ohlmann:
That’s a huge relief, and speaks really well of the French electorate. I wonder what the difference was? Why did Anglosphere voters fall for it and not French ones?
@Everyone
I’m glad the tiny kerfuffle over jobs has come to a close. I felt dismayed and conflicted that Dreemr and PeeVee were put off by the reactions here. I really don’t want anyone to feel bad and I apologize to the both of you for causing any upset.
At first I blamed myself for even bringing up the subject, but then I realized that if we had Universal Basic Income we wouldn’t need to have this conversation, and realized that once again the ugly seeds of Capitalism brought discord and chaos to our happy little corner of the Internet.
If we lived in a society that endorsed full Communism, we would probably all be enjoying ourselves in a small office building provided by the Collective, being briefed by David on how to Do A Misandry. 😀
In my mind’s eye, I imagine us all sitting around a business meeting table filled with Legos, nerf guns, cats, and video game equipment while David does his presentations on the Manureosphere.
@Dalilama
No, it’s not out of line at all, don’t worry. I’m quite flattered by your interest, even. 😉
@CleverForAGirl
You’re the heroine we so desperately need in these dark times. Seriously, I am 100% impressed that you are a black girl that is good at math. You have singlehandedly wrecked the White Supremacist propaganda about Wimmenz and DUH BLACKS being bad at math.
It’s another reason why I’m distressed and disappointed about myself not being mathwise – I feel like I’m proving racist white people right about their ideals that we are incapable of performing to their standards.
@Valentine
I actually really, really like sailing.
Like, you should see how many historical fiction/medieval fantasy books I have about sailing and ships.
I also don’t get sick on board ships and have been aboard many a boat in my time, further exploding a myth we have over here in the USA about how black people don’t like boats.
However, the U.S. media makes it seem like being on a cargo ship means you have to avoid armadas of pirates and that your shipmates will try to kill you every chance you get. They make it sound like it’s 1781 in the Caribbean all over again.
So I’m nervous about losing my life there. I’m also worried about if it would be safe for a transwoman like myself to be wandering about on a ship.
But at the same time, the future possibility of “The effervescent, elegant and Very Intrepid Freighter Captain Franscesca Torpedo” appeals to me more than I could possibly put into words.
If I managed to do that AND somehow buy a castle like other eccentrics have done, I’d pretty much be living the dream my 12-year-old self always had and complete my transformation into a character from the ‘Redwall’ series of fantasy books (I have almost all of them).
I really like ships. When I was small I drew and wrote about ships and sailing exclusively.
The only thing I like more than ships and sailing is space. I was obsessed with space for a while as well, which is why I mentioned wanting to become an aerospace engineer.
I am too old and underqualified to become an astronaut, so I always figured I’d like to build and fly spacecraft instead.
@Oogly
Ah, Khan Academy.
I made the mistake of starting at the high school level with it, because that was where my education ended.
Big mistake. It ended in tears and I stopped using it. Recently I deleted my account and resolved to start at the lowest level, even though I know how to count and add and subtract. That’s the highest level of my proficiency.
I’ve also started using Code Academy. As per the Mammotheers who suggested coding as a job, I may just do that.
I heard that to code one must know esoteric mathematical processes such as Boolean algebra, which is basically magic and miracles (like magnets) to me as a layperson who can barely solve for y.
However, I figured that, if by some chance my second run with Khan Academy is successful, I might be able to overtake that hurdle.
I’m also going to get a full psychological evaluation so that I can better understand what’s wrong with my brain.
In all actuality…I probably am too damaged to work and should be receiving disability, but the harsh economic policy of the USA does not allow for such a thing.
@Axecalibur, RE: Defeating Nazi Women
I think we all need to realize that women and PoC are being used as tentacles of the Neonazis by now.
Citation: Ben Fucking Carson(BEN: “PYRAMIDS BE GRAIN STORAGE AN SHIET”), Michelle “I fucking hate black people’ Malkin, various other Quislings of Color and Quisling Women, DARTH OMAROSA.
The game has changed significantly. Just because someone is PoC or a woman doesn’t mean they are automatically on our side and we gotta come to grips with this.
So, the election was a victory for lesser evil? Sounds very American.
@ EJ
It is so weird you say that! It was daytime, but it was a station in the middle of nowhere, with no train for several hours.
@Ourobouros13
You think they deserve to die. Well, I don’t. But then I don’t think we should kill people for killing people. Seems… illogical.
I believe that Hamlet had it exactly right:
(my emphasis)
We should not let the emotional need for revenge turn us into monsters.
@Alan Robertshaw
I rather enjoyed reading the trial transcript for the Dover Trial. Well, I say read. I had the computer read it to me while I was doing some major housework/spring cleaning. The rather flat nature of a trial transcript goes well with computer reading.
@EJ : honestly, and despite me usually being quick to point out french as superior, I think the electorate is not the main difference.
The difference were, in my opinion :
* somebody did it before. Since the Trump election, people have been wisening about random revelations on the internet. The trust wikileak built have thorougly decayed since this time. Also, reactions to it is becoming faster. Thoses fake news are a scam, and scams alway decay in efficient with time.
* it was too ham-fisted and too hasty. Combined to the above point, it made thoses attempts ridiculed way more quickly.
* lastly, and while on some aspects, french might be more racists than americans, they tend to want a certain level of dignity. The FN have appeared unclassy and crass, which provoked rejection. That’s why Fillon sinked so fast for his embezzlement when Chirac and Juppé did not : Fillon embezzled for his profit, while Chirac funded his party.
@Ohlmann
Glad you said this.
People…like to act like White Europeans are progressive and not racist, and by and large this is not really true per se.
I always envy people (usually white) who blabber about how they backpacked across Europe and it was soooo fun.
I want to see the ruins of Ancient Rome up close and explore the different places that many medieval fantasy fiction writers have incorporated into their work, but I wouldn’t give a thin penny for my chances with dealing with the highly specific nature of European racism against black people.
@Arctic
How I fuckin wish it were “very Murican”. 2000 (sorta), 2004, and 2016 (also sorta) suggest oterwise…
@ otrame
Ooh, which one’s that?
‘Why did Anglosphere voters fall for it and not French ones?’
A friend of mine just tweeted ‘Murdoch Murdoch Murdoch.’ It is pretty amazing how much work he’s put into making people in the countries he has media properties in believe things.
A few months ago I got off the train in Bristol, and was surprised to see people handing out free papers (I don’t recall ever seeing this outside London)–I didn’t pick one up, but glanced at the front page–it was something vaguely negative and alarmist about the House of Lords, literally in red letters. This was when the Lords were in a position to stop Brexit.
The insidious thing to me is that you don’t even have to read, or believe, what’s written in the papers–even casually glancing at a headline is enough to implant a message.
@Alan
The ‘Intelligent Design’ one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
I’m trusting there’s a link to the decision buried in there somewhere 🙂
Sorry, I meant to clarify, I meant the sentiment where victory for lesser evil would be considered the best case outcome and worth celebrating.