No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.
@Axecaliber
Consider me fully onboard (heh)!
@All, re: Khan Academy
Y’all are making me excited to do my Khan Academy thing again!
We should track each other and do a Personal Trainer type thing in which we encourage each other to keep moving forward.
I’m gonna start from the lowest level possible. I already know how to count and add and subtract but fuck it, I’ll refresh my memory – I could use the practice.
Started from the bottom, now we here.
@Rhuu
I KNOW, RIGHT? Fuck.
It’s like…how the hell do you be a racist, transphobic transwoman?
Blair White succeeds at being one, which is hardly what I would call a noteworthy achievement.
@Rhuu
I KNOW, RIGHT? Fuck.
It’s like…how the hell do you be a racist, transphobic transwoman?
Blair White succeeds at being one, which is hardly what I would call a noteworthy achievement.
@Axe
I like you a heck of a lot more than I like ouroboros.
@Alan
The Dover trial was about “Inteligent Design” and trying to get it introduced into a Pennsylvania school district. It failed, and it was actually rejected by a judge appointed by George W. Bush. One of the many books written about that case is 40 Days and 40 Nights: Darwin, Intelligent Design, God, Oxycontin (R), and Other Oddities on Trial in Pennsylvania by Matthew Chapman.
Re: French election
At least one woman voted for Le Pen because it would piss people off. She didn’t think Le Pen would fix anything, she just wanted to make others angry. That seems like one of the worst reasons to vote for someone to me.
@Fransesca
I started at Pre-K math too. It just makes sense to start at the bottom if you want to learn all the math skills.
One of the issues with math is that if you miss out on a key concept at any early level, it’s probably going to be a problem for you forever after. So it’s a good idea if you’re seriously into getting math skills, to go back like Rhuu has and make sure that you have even the kiddie stuff down pat.
Calculus in coding: Calculus isn’t much use in coding unless you’re doing scientific calculating stuff. I think it’s required for a number of reasons, some of them not very good. Among them are the fact that computing used to be more calculting-based, and another that it tends to screen out people who aren’t good at math, which will cause them problems in computing. The problem with that is that calculus is often poorly taught — in college Calc 101 is often a huge lecture course with minimal actual TEACHING, particularly because (in the US) the lecturer is often a foreign-born grad student whose command of English is weak. It’s tough enough to learn a fairly difficult subject without a language barrier making it worse. I, my wife, and my children all got our start in Calculus in high school Advanced Placement courses with excellent experienced teachers and small classes. (My children’s Calculus teacher was a woman, by the way.)
Calculus requires good teaching, and quite often it doesn’t get it, so the students don’t “get” it. Dali, I’m going to guess that it was poor teaching, not your lack of ability, that defeated you.
Boolean algebra (named for a guy named Boole) is absolutely necessary for programming, but it’s not esoteric — it’s actually fairly simple, just a way of turning ideas we deal with every day into an abstract symbolic system that a computer can be programmed to understand. If you take a set containing all the women in the world and a set containing all the PoC in the world and draw circles to represent them on a piece of paper, women of color would be the part where the two circles overlap (which is called the Intersection). If you can understand that, you’re well on your way to understanding Boolean algebra. Say you have a database that has fields for Sex and Ethnicity and you need to select women of color. Depending on the contents of the database and your precise needs, you might want to select people who have indicated their Sex as female and their Ethnicity as African-American, or you might want to select for people who have indicated their Sex as female but not indicated their Ethnicity as white (or Caucasian). You would, of course, get somewhat different results. Thinking in terms of drawn circles, the first graphic would show the intersection of women and African-Americans, the second of women and non-whites.
In coding terms the first would be something like:
If Sex = “F” and Ethnicity = “A” then … else …
and the second would be something like
If Sex – “F” and Ethnicity ≠ “W” then … else …
The “and” indicates that both conditions must be true. If you use “or” instead, in the first case you’d get all (the “union” of) women and African-American people, in the second case you’d get the union of women and non-white people. The ability to take different actions (“branching”) based on whether or not certain conditions (which may be fairly complex) are satisfied is the basis of all programming. It is not not not not esoteric — we all do it every day, just not in the simplified, symbolized manner a computer requires.
“If Sandy comes over this afternoon, I will bake cookies, but if not I will finish up the pie I baked yesterday” is the sort of thing that you could write in (BASIC) programming syntax as “If Sandy-Visit = “Y” then goto Bake-Cookies-Subroutine else goto Eat-Pie-Subroutine.”
I was very good at math. I ended up taking two years of post-calculus abstract algebra courses at Harvard and got good grades even though I was an English major. But the point is that I was always TOLD that I would be good at math and I always EXPECTED to do well. Somestimes I think that the average person is not taught to do well in math, they are taught to fear and dread math. If you go into it with a confident attitude you are likely to find that it is a lot easier than you are told.
@Grand Old Man
I actually understood that!
I’m genuinely surprised at myself.
Alan: converting a 2D film to 3D is about the dumbest thing you can imagine.
Think of taking a printed photo and cutting it into two parts: foreground and background. Then you hold the foreground closer, the background further, and bingo you’ve got parallax!
Thats all there is to it. Of course it’s 2017 so you do that in photoshop and assemble the movie in Maya and render it out into some digital format, but the principle is the same.
Cutting frames like this is a lot of manual effort. You have to do each frame individually, and there’s 24 frames per second, for 5400 seconds in a 90-minute film. So of course it’s all automated using the latest advances in computer vision and artificial intelligence,
Just kidding. Actually what you do is hire a team in India.
I agree with this.
I think it’s also about confidence in another way: maths is about being sure of your own knowledge and using it boldly in order to make new statements which nobody has previously told you are acceptable. If we bring up our daughters to be afraid of making such statements in a social context, then making them in a mathematical context might also be scary.
Re calculus:
I do a lot of calculus. To me, calculus has become as natural as simpler algebra. I couldn’t imagine life without it. However, if you aren’t interested in hard science, it’s probably not as big a deal for you.
@Fran:
IIRC you said you’re interested in game programming? If you want to do graphical stuff, you might want to spend some time on vector calculus. It’s not that complex a field – I learned it in my first undergraduate year – but there’s some other maths you’re gonna need in order to get there.
@Fran : fantasy tropes about orcs, elves, dwarves, and goblins are a pure product of the 20th century. And while dear Tolkien have a hand in it, Gary Gygax have more to do with it than anyone else. Not that he was an obvious racist scum like Lovecraft could be.
May be a perspective thing, but I find it very hard, from my personal experience, to really say that a country is more or less racist, or that its racism is more bearable or anything. The racism is subtly different in all country and region, which is important to know how to navigate it, but it’s still a shit sandwich no matter what.
I also think your views on Europa might be a small bit more extrem than what it is in reality :p.
Re: Dover Trial
Thanks to all for the info and link. As I’m currently nursing an annoying injury I’m very down on the concept of intelligent design at the moment. Either that or I’m in Beta Test or something.
@ numerobis
That’s disappointingly prosaic. I was hoping they’d developed that technology for seeing behind things in photos; like in Blade Runner.
Eh up folks,
Catching up on this thread after the weekend, I like that it started about being a librarian and moved on to classic novels no one really reads, via ships. Moby Dick does the same thing – I always liked the sub-sub librarian at the start, and the pages of quotes about whales. When I was a library assistant, that’s how I used to refer to myself; I was 20 and pretentious, but it amused me.
Congratulations on the job anyway, Nikki!
@AlanRobertshaw
Good old Yorkshire – where the ancient enmity between Swaledale and the ‘foreigners’ in Wensleydale still burns as strong as ever. If you’re from Hawes, don’t let the sun set on you in Muker…
@ fran
As Alan Moore once said “I live in Northampton. The North/South divide runs through my living room”.
There are lots of traditional rivalries. Yorkshire v Lancashire; Devon v Cornwall; one street in Sunderland v the next street in Sunderland. They’re usually friendly under the surface and of course areas will be united on a grander scale. It’s like the old thing “Me against my brother. My brother and I against the the tribe. The tribe against the other tribes. The tribes against the outsiders. etc.” In Yorkshire accents and dialects change dramatically over only a few miles, so it’s easy to spot ‘not from round here’. But collectively there’s a strong Yorkshire indentity. So we’ll go on about how ‘we’ came tenth in the Olympics for example.
As for the regions, well don’t forget that ‘Welsh’ is the old English word for ‘foreigner’. Hence the place technically being Cymru to the locals (although they do use ‘Welsh’ themselves now of course). And the Scots will use Sassenach for the English. We have an interesting and chaotic history.
ETA: Ninja’d (quite accurately) by Dan
Mmmmm eat-pie-subroutine …… yum. (alas, no pie here 🙁 ) So it’s kind of sort of like writing down flow-charts and Venn diagrams in words? 🙂
re orcs, elves, gnomes and racism/xenophobia + british variant on can’t-trust-those-strangers-from-the-next-village, no wonder that discovering the humanity (or rather, personhood) of people previously dismissed as monsters runs through Pratchett like peppermint swirls through a stick of rock.
(speaking of rock, I like the fact that rock from the south coast (swathes of which are on limestone, e.g. the chalk cliffs) is as hard as granite, whereas Edinburgh rock (Edinburgh being on granite) is as crumbly as chalk)
@ opposablethumbs
I was quite surprised to find out that the white Cliffs of Dover are actually an escarpment. So even in the days of Doggerland, before the Channel, when you could walk to Britain from Europe they would have been a big feature on the landscape.
(And that the Rhine and the Thames were both tributaries of the same river.)
http://x3.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_B40VfwwJxqS5b8ShnweYUl2rYcwuu9at.jpg
@ opposablethumbs
My pie chart…
http://i.imgur.com/cRy5EED.jpg
@Alan Robertshaw
Maps of Ice Age Europe make me very happy! 🙂
Lots of rivers flowed in different directions pre-glaciation, and often got shifted when there were big glacial floods that smashed through existing landforms and battered them down. I’m led to believe that the Trent used to flow directly east from Nottingham, but one of the big ice-dammed lakes collapsed, and sent a flood that carved out the cliffs between Radcliffe on Trent and east Bridgford, and diverting the river north.
@opposable thumbs
Seaside rock is a pleasure lost in the distance of time, for me, unless I want to speed up the process of tooth loss yet further. Every time I’m in Skegness, I can only look on miserably as younger relatives happily chomp them down. It was Highland toffee bars that caused the damage – I know of no harder, more dangerous substance – they probably built the Pandorica out of it.
@ danholme
One of the great things about that League of Gentlemen ‘Stump Hole Cavern’ sketch is that it’s geologically accurate.
My favourite geology/seaside reference…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anning
@AlanRobertshaw
I’ve had the pleasure of being able to work the occasional quote from that into tours of the caves I’ve worked at.
‘In 1974 you couldn’t move down here for cybermen.’
the Rhine and the Thames were both tributaries of the same river <3
How wonderful is that? Not only that this was the case, but also that it can be known?!?! (or is that the Rhone? Hang on, going back for another look …)
And I love the map.
(haven't eaten rock for eons – but at least the Edinburgh variety doesn't require chewing 🙂 )
yeah, I always mix up my Rhine and my Rhône :-s
Alan – Kitzmiller v. Dover is very entertaining. A blogger I’ve read since 2006 did a very good talk about it that I like to watch once a year or so and I’m not even much of a legal wonk. YT link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjskDUcUQv0
@ hambeast
Ooh thanks for that; I’ll stick it on my viewing list. Found quite an interesting lecture by the judge who presided in the case. That was very good. Bit legal wonk, but explains his rationale really well.
If we’re exchanging videos…
http://www.bartitsu.org
@Alan: Thanks for the map. Doggerland is fascinating.
@Dan:
Me, too! I like to think about what the land looked like, and how the people lived and moved about, where they might have had their homes.
@AsAboveSoBelow
I agree – when you see horse and reindeer bones, and flint tools, dragged up from the bottom of the North Sea, a whole vanished continent really, it’s quite moving. I would have loved to see something like Lake Lapworth or Lake Pickering for real instead of just inside my head.
@Alan Robertshaw & Hambeast
You almost certainly already know this, but just in case, there is a lot of interesting material about Kitzmiller in the archives at The Panda’s Thumb website, for instance:
https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2005/12/what-the-dover.html
@ Dan & Asabovesobelow
For bonus cool points Doggerland also has an asteroid impact crater* (which probably ended up as a lake) at Silverpit.
(I know that’s not completely settled but I find the presence of a central peak quite convincing)