No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.
@Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
I have a penchant for remembering distasteful things more easily than pleasant things. Not sure if blessing or curse.
@Oogly
Porque no los dos? When something is both a blessing and a curse, it ceases to be either. Nah, that’s called a superpower 😀
@Axecalibur
Thanks for the “superpower” reframing! I’ll remember that.
Yes, I know. People like you are like Catholic nuns, never forgetting any sin and ever so quick to punish. And you wonder why normal people hate you. Kindly go fuck yourself.
@Ouroboros13
Yeah, no. How about fuck you instead for the ableism, religion dig and not owning up to your chronic need to tell people how much you want to harm others? It’d be more helpful if you stopped lashing out at other people and keep to civil disobedience when it comes to helping minorities and the poor.
re: math and jobs –
@CleverForAGirl – you sound like a great teacher; relating concepts to things is an awesome skill to have 🙂 Still, not everyone’s good at math or should have to be. My brother has dyscalculia and couldn’t pass Quebec’s grade 10/11 requirements; getting the needed exemptions was a pain, but he’s now in university and doing very well in his field.
I barely passed Grade 11 math myself. Problem is, I didn’t practice, and thought I could get by on formulas alone, instead of knowing how to APPLY those formulas (*shakes head at past self*). Then, in my early 20s, I was doing online tutoring, and I was surprised to see how teaching math made me connect to it better. My boss at the time commented, “You’re good at math… for an English major.” 😀
If anyone wants to read a Canadian YA book about a math contest (and you know you want to) I recommend The Math Olympian by Richard Hoshino. The good parts are good and the bad parts make it more fun, IMO. The dialogue is laughable, and a random Christian subplot is shoehorned in (the narrator’s friend Grace returns to her faith… she’s named Grace, so what else can she do??) but it’s really good at explaining the amazingness of math. And there are two major characters who are girls doing math, so it’s also misandry!
@Lysistrata
🙂
@Ouforfuckssake
Sister Mary Calibur to you, child
But, like, why would I forget? I can’t just decide not to remember things anymore. If I remember, I remember. Unless you meant forgive? In which case, why would I forgive? You’re still doing the same shit. You never apologized or admitted wrongdoing. Even calling it a sin now is facetious. So, no, I do neither. How about just not being an ass next time, and I won’t have any sins to recall
I can think of like 5 different meanings for that, and ain’t one of em any good
Also, I was unaware that I’m apparently so nigh universally hated. But if filterless, hyperaggressive, internet rando says it, who am I to doubt?
Sure thing. And you have a lovely night and morning as well
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Ekans used toxic, but it failed
Hm. I wrote a lot and not about jobs.
Okay. JOBS. My experience: it doesn’t always work like it “should”. Just after I graduated (MA, BA Eng Lit), I applied as a proofreader to a mid-sized publishing company, went through an interview process, got accepted, started work… and was fired a week later because the company was short of money.
I spent a year and a half working part time, taking on a RA gig and online tutoring. One of the jobs I applied to was to a local tutoring centre, just in case they needed English tutors (they were asking for engineering ones in the ad). Six months passed. I applied again. A couple of months later, I got a call asking for a phone interview. I got the job, and now, two years later, I’m working full time there as an admin assistant as well as a tutor.
Now, I make about 1-2 thousand a month, so I’m not even earning minimum wage if you count all the hours (yay startups?) but it’s more than enough for me and I’m saving money. It’d be different if I had my own apartment, but right now I’m living with my parents, and I figure if I move I’ll try to get a place with other people.
NOW. I do have a “passion”. Writing fiction and poetry is pretty much my favourite thing in life! Still, it’s not something I want to do ALL the time (I’d be bored as well as poor if I tried that). I also love teaching!
(And I’m godawfully unfairly lucky to be living middleclassishly in Canada. Not that here is some Trumpless utopia, but the social safety net is a bit safer. I’m scared of what’s happening to healthcare over in the States.)
Иди нахуй odourous ты не понимаешь ничего-_-
Did you live in a country in a war? You want to make violence? This is not a joke, not a game. Talk big in the internet, but what you know in real life? I dont know how old you are, but you talk like you are 15 and need attention. Learn something, learn anything. And then shut up.
@Axecalibur – I don’t hate you! And I’m very normal! For example, my shoe size is almost exactly average. If that isn’t reassuringly normal, I don’t know what is. 😀
Ableism? Where in this thread? I’ll dig a disgusting religion as much as I please.
Last I said anything so terribly offensive was a year ago. You’d think a chronic need for me to tell people how much I want to hurt them would have me say such things more often, not measured in years.
Normal people don’t get outraged over every little thing posted online. Of all the things to get outraged over you get outraged by me talking about killing exploitive, greedy, ruthless rich people for valid reasons.
@axecaliber
I also think you are class ?
odourous is a moron. And is see from the other thread he says he is slav. Living in america too. And on here making us look bad and disrespect his ancestors.
Ourobouros13, I think you may need to sit and chill.
I understand that this is not what you want to do. I understand that you feel that you need to fight a war. The world is fucked up and someone needs to sort out the bad guys. I feel like that at times too. Righteous anger is a wonderful feeling.
However:
A) The world doesn’t need more violent white men guided only by their own innate self of what’s right. The times that you and I most want to fly off the handle, are precisely the times when we most need to sit down and take counsel.
B) Even if the world did need more violent white men, this isn’t the right internet community in which to be urging such action. This is a place for mocking misogynists, not urging class war. There is a multitude of internet out there if you feel you must do it.
C) A good activist is always happy to be called out, especially by people with less privilege. Right now you’re not doing that, and it’s not helping.
D) This sort of thing is exclusionary. If you urge violence then you create a space in which the voices of the underprivileged are unwelcome; and there’s no point to a Progressivism which doesn’t make their voices welcome.
Therefore: Sit. Chill. Listen to the counsel of people wiser than either of us. When they say it’s time to fill the molotovs and take to the streets, I’ll join you. Until then, let’s respond to being called out in the way we should:
“Thank you for calling me out. It makes me a better person. I’ll try to do better going forwards.”
Everyone else: Chill too.
Gentlemen, this shit is unbecoming. You’re my brothers and I love you, but this isn’t the way we talk to one another.
If someone’s behaviour is unacceptable, we call them out. If someone’s views are unacceptable then we examine those views. We do not make it personal. It’s not cool and it doesn’t help.
If we want to see men behave better, let’s start with ourselves and the way we treat one another.
@ourobouros13
Oh, FFS.
(1) It was six months ago.
(2) It’s never okay. Comments policy!
(3) The other Mammotheers who are urging you to chill are right. Thanks, Mammotheers!
@ЕJ
Thanks ? i didnt know i was gentleman. But you are right it is better to behave correctly. I was a little bit joking with my comment before. Also i thought moron is a mild word, it means something more on english than i thought? I would say we can all be morons sometimes….
But i also think maybe Axe is correct to feel a bit angry. I understand his reaction more than i understand Ourobouros telling people they abnormal and saying fuck off when they tell him not to say ignorant things.
But also in america it was late in the night when Ourobouros was making his post – people say strange things in the night. Your brain starts want sleep and things feel worse than they do when you are in the morning. This is why for people with PTSD feel worst in the night.
@ valentine (and our other sailors)
Bit o/t but had occasion this weekend to be discussing potential book titles. That lead on to a further discussion about book titles generally which lead someone to bring this one up. You might appreciate it (or even have a copy).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Avoid-Huge-Ships-John-Trimmer/dp/0870334336
@ alan
Yes! This book is on my wishes? but it is very expensive and not printed. Looks good though. Nice to have a funny book about the sea. Most other ones i see are journalst trying to make it sound scarey to be at sea and study sailors like we animals or something different. Suppose to remove the mystery from sailing to help people on the land understand but instead just makes it more weird. And always always talking about ships sinking….
@ valentine
By all accounts it’s a serious and well respected book. All about COLREGs and that sort of thing.
I love some of the reviews though. My current fave being:
“As an iceberg I just wish my grandfather had read this book…”
@ alan
I would argue that the journalist books wish to be serious and well respected but are garbage )))
But this book, yes looks very good. And reviews very funny. My cousin told to me about it because he was reading the reviews on amazon ?
@ valentine
Must confess, nothing makes my heart sink more than “Booker Prize Winner”.
@alan
Booker prize is for what? Nonfiction? I don’t read very many books, i am slow at reading, and also dont care very much about awards.
@ valentine
The Booker is an annual award for best original novel (in English). I get the impression though it’s more of an industry ‘pat on the back’ for publishing industry favourites; bit like the Brit Awards in music.
@alan
So will be some old white dude winning then with some book about a old white dude suffering for some reason? 😉
@ valentine
Yeah, but then you give your prize money to the black panthers to demonstrate that really you’re fighting the power (over drinks and canapés).
Recently it seems to have gone out of its way to award authors from minorities, but that’s minorities for whom they own the publishing rights.
Some former judges, and winners, have said really it’s all down to who’s got the best drugs and who’s sleeping with who. Ethics in publishing I guess.