
No one should be turning to the neo-Nazi online tabloid The Daily Stormer for dating advice, but on the off chance that you are, I have to warn you that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I mean, they don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to pretty much everything, but in this case their ignorance involves what actually went on in the supposed 1950s cultural paradise they want to return us to, forcibly if necessary.
In a post with the sarcastic title “Dating Advice: The Key to Good Relationships is Cheating on Your Boyfriends,” regular Daily Stormer contributor “Zeiger” takes aim at a “fat Paki skag” dating expert who has the temerity to argue that women searching for “the One” should date a bunch of guys casually before committing to one of them.
I know, shocking.
Well, it is to Zeiger.
Not so long ago, women didn’t feel like they needed dating advice. After all, they just had to stand around somewhere until a man came to them and took care of everything for them.
All they had to worry about was serving him beer and cooking his food right so he didn’t dump their ungrateful asses.
Zeiger illustrates this point with a magazine illustration from the 1950s depicting happy teenage girls learning to bake a cake, so it’s pretty clear what romanticized past Zeiger is harking back to.
Alas, we have fallen so far from this imaginary paradise!
But in the era of NUMALE faggots and Jew feminism, women are confused. They think it’s somehow their job to understand relationships. This is already a completely insane concept.
But it gets worse.
These days, they’re getting their relationship advice from insane Paki sluts.
The “Paki slut” in question is a “relationship coach” named Sami Wunder who was recently featured in the British tabloid The Express. Despite Zeiger’s headline, Wunder does not actually suggest that women cheat on their boyfriends. Rather, she recommends that women looking for a husband date multiple men, non-exclusively, holding off on serious committment until one of them pops the question.
Whatever you think of this advice, it’s hardly “cheating” to date more than one person when you’re not in an exclusive relationship, presuming everyone is on the up and up on this.
Zeiger is outraged by the very idea.
I guarantee that no real man would “put a ring” on the finger of some hoe who cheated on him with a bunch of other guys. A “man” so pussy-whipped would more appropriately be called a “humanoid slug.” …
What this shows is the urgent need women have for stable, healthy relationships. And that is something that can only be provided by WHITE SHARIA – not fat Paki whore dating advice.
Zeiger’s anger here seems to stem from the same mix of entitlement and insecurity that drives the alt-right obsession with “cucks” and “cucking.” These are men who, on some level, feel entitled to any attractive woman who wanders into their field of vision, and feel betrayed — even “cucked” — when any of these women date or marry or just have sex with some guy other than them.
But we’re not just entitlement we’re dealing with here. More than a few alt-rightist dudes — and manosphere dudes generally — fetishize nubile young virgins, not just because they’re creepy dudes who are way too into women and girls far too young for them, but because virgins have no way to compare their sexual prowess with other men. Many manosphere dudes are quite open about this anxiety, complaining that women who’ve been with more than one guy will endlessly compare them with their earlier partners.
These are the same guys who go around boasting about what “alphas” they are.
But there’s another giant irony in Zeiger’s piece: dating in the 1950s, at least at the start of the decade, looked a lot more like Wunder’s world than Zeigers in some crucial respects.
In the 40s and early 50s, teenagers were encouraged to “play the field,” casually dating an assortment of not-quite-steady partners rather than committing to a single person.
It wasn’t until later in the decade that teens began to shift en masse to the more familiar (to us, that is) strategy of “going steady.” And far from welcoming this new monogamy, many parents were horrified. Magazines at the time were filled with alarming articles on the supposedly grave dangers of going steady.
Here’s one from 1960 warning teens that going steady might be “too dangerous” for them.
Here’s one from 1957 examining the potential “immorality” of going steady.
And here’s a graphic from a pamphlet or magazine article from the era wondering when it was “too early” for teens to go steady.
And parents actually had some legitimate reasons to worry. On the one hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” without dating around first would settle down with the first person of the opposite sex who was nice to them, not realizing they could have done better.
On the other hand, they worried that teens who “went steady” would also end up going further sexually — which could lead, as sex often does, to pregnancy and too-early marriage. Indeed, the age of first marriage dropped precipitously in the 1950s as more teens married, helping to contribute to the spiraling divorce rates of the 1960s and 1970s as these too-hasty marriages fell apart.
It was kind of a screwed-up decade; happily, the sexual revolution of the 1960s convinced a hefty chunk of Americans young and old that 1) sex isn’t the end of the world and 2) it isn’t always such a great idea for teens to settle down forever with the very first person they have sex with.
The weird thing is that the 1950s parents, for all their faults, were more interested in girls and young women having choices than are the alt-rightists of today.
Parents in the 1950s worried that their daughters would end up getting too seriously involved with the wrong guys because they had no good basis for comparison.
Alt-rightists and manosphere dudes today are apparently afraid that no women will settle for them if they realize there are other men out there who aren’t, you know, reactionary racists who think women shouldn’t really be allowed to make their own decisions about anything.
I’m thinking they’re probably right to worry about this. And I’m glad.





In exactly what era did women ‘just stand around’ until a man came by, pray tell?
Also, wasn’t there dating advice before feminism? Where does the notion that feminism or ‘the Jews’ or whatever brought in an era of dating advice?
Also, I think “cheating on your spouse” predates feminism — Hello, Helen of Troy, Princesse de Clève and Guinevere!
Also, don’t read Aucassin and Nicolette which is clearly an attempt to bring feminism to the Middle Ages!
I find that these types of men are terrified of women who think for themselves. Not that they’d ever admit that.
It’s not just that these men have never been anywhere, or have never interacted with women outside their own families, or apparently worked with any women, or seen any women on television, or maybe anywhere other than, I guess, 1950s teen magazines, maybe?
It’s not just all that, it’s also that they don’t seem to have ever even read anything about women, hell, about history, I mean forget just women-specific, they literally don’t seem to have a clue about humans or any living organisms, at all.
I just – where do these men come from? How do you live your entire life without ever stepping outside your front door, or ever seeing a film about a life other than your own experience, or reading a book or even a magazine article that describes something beyond your own vision?
I just don’t know. It’s like they literally came down on a space ship after only picking up satellite transmissions of “Leave it to Beaver” and “Father Knows Best” or something?
I try to, at the very least, understand how someone got to where they are, even if only in a very rudimentary way, but this is something I can’t come close to comprehending, it is so far afield from what living breathing humans are like.
Wow, fuck that guy. Skags (and fat people in general) are cute as hell.
http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Skags-Borderlands-video-game-a.jpg
Just wook at that widdle death monster! Isn’t it adorwabul?
SMH at this particular bit of alt-right stupidity.
On a better note, I finally got a job! I’m now an aide at one of the libraries in my area. Provided all the background check- and fingerprint-type stuff goes smoothly (which it should), I start in about 2 weeks.
My grandma-in-law went to college during the Second World War. She once told me and my sister-in-law about the dances she used to go to, and how women were expected to dance with multiple partners. If you danced with only one guy all night and refused everybody else who asked, GIL said, you’d be considered “stuck-up.”
@Nikki: Congratulations!
@Nequam
Thanks! I’m still in the nervous/excited/relieved strain of mixed feelings.
Surely someone has a Borderlands Mod that gives you a pet skag…
I’d ask where do these idiots get these ideas, but then I remember rule 0 of the PUA: “You must think you should be the center of the sexual universe”
Dating as we think of it today didn’t exist until the 20th century, but there are plenty of extremely famous stories written by very white people before the sexual revolution that covered romantic pitfalls and anxieties. Like Midsummer Night’s Dream or any other Shakespeare comedy and some of his tragedies, Emma or any other Jane Austen, Cyrano De Bergerac. There’s a reason that these works have been adapted and put into contemporary settings. Worrying about love is pretty universal. It’s not just that the alt-right doesn’t understand the world. They don’t seem to even live in it. You don’t have to be very well educated or well read to be familiar with the plots of Shakespeare romances. Everyone knows them!
My grandparents married in the 1940’s before second wave feminism came along and ruined everything. My maternal grandparents were set up on a date by a friend. My paternal grandparents were friends first and eventually decided to get married even though my grandmother (conservative Catholic, not a feminist) originally hadn’t even wanted to get married. That’s right. The friend zone existed before nowadays!
Paternal grandmother was a welder during WWII and worked outside the home until she was maybe about 80 and just couldn’t physically do it anymore. Contrary to popular right wing belief, that was common for working class women. My maternal grandparents had the more suburban Leave it to Beaver kind of household but just because my grandmother was a SAHM, doesn’t mean she was a submissive helpmeet type. She had a sharp wit, was good at math and managed the family’s investments. It’s because of her that there was money to leave my mom and aunt. Men were certainly more privileged in the 40’s and 50’s than they are and women more marginalized. That sure as shit doesn’t mean every man was gifted a submissive beautiful virgin upon reaching adulthood.
I think that hate and wanting to maintain privilege, while big motives for them, aren’t the only reason they idealize the past that never was. I think they’re pants shittingly scared of complexity. They want a simple formula to get through life with everything they want. But life isn’t simple and people aren’t monoliths. They never were, but right wingers desperately need to believe that if only social justice movements didn’t exist, they would live carefree and prosperous lives without putting in any effort at all.
Congratulations, Nikki!
I work in a library, and it’s oodles of fun! I really enjoy it.
@PeeVee
Thanks! The main reason I want to work in a library is that I’ve loved books from a very young age and I want to make my living by doing something I love.
Great work showing how attitudes towards dating have changed, David.
Congratulations, Nikki!
Congratulations Nikki! I know I overuse this pic; but it’s a sentiment I hold dear.
http://chipkidd.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/neil-gaiman-library-books-meme.jpg
@ Nikki, same!
Oh, I’m very happy for you!
@All
I would like to be a librarian, but I heard the pay is bad.
I have been damaged enough by my experiences being poor that I have decided to seek out a degree in something that will potentially pay off even though I don’t have an interest in the subject.
Thanks, everyone!
@Alan: I can’t say I’ve ever heard that Gaiman quote (although I did read and enjoy some of his essays), but I love it!
@Franscesca
It’s true that librarians can be rather underpaid, but a lot of how well a librarian gets paid depends on things like where they live (and the corresponding cost of living), what type of library they work in, and how much education they have (getting your Master’s in Library Science tends to bump your salary up). My main goal is to eventually move up to a full-time position where I’m either behind the main desk or at the reference desk. It’s never going to make me rich, but in my metro area (Dayton, Ohio, a relatively small Midwestern city about an hour north of Cincinnati-I live in one of the towns just outside it), you can make a moderately comfortable living doing that.
Sorry for the length, and I don’t want this comment to come across as snobbish or pedantic-there are a lot of variables involved in the librarian pay equation.
@Nikki
I’ll consider it, then, because I was ginning myself up to do something I don’t want to do at all just to make money in order to attain my true ambitions.
I had intended to obtain a degree regardless, so this doesn’t impact my plans at all.
One thing I actually also seriously wanted to do was become a teacher or professor, but I’ve heard pay is shit for both those roles as well. Perhaps not? I invite your evaluation of my assessment about teaching.
ETA:
Also, thank you for informing me, and no, it was not long or snobbish or pedantic; it was actually quite useful and interesting and helpful to me, personally.
@Franscesca
I don’t have enough information to analyze teaching pay as well as I did librarian pay, largely because I was never interested in becoming a teacher or professor and never collected the info for that career track. However, a lot of the same variables, like location and education, still apply; and many colleges and universities pay their professors well-I’d recommend that you try to find a career counselor in your area, either through your school or through any local employment agencies (most US states have websites that provide career information, and most non-US countries should as well), and ask them for the specifics.
I’m glad I’ve been able to help!
@Nikki Congratulations on the new job, I hope it goes well for you.
@Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Congratulations, hope it all goes well for you.
How about NO?
I’d much rather have a stable, healthy relationship with a bunch of cats. Especially if they’re as adorably goofy as Maru here:
Always liked that term, ‘going steady’. Still use it
@Nikki

Much grats!
@Fran

In the end, it all boils down to as said, insecurity.
Because how dare things be complex and work with spectrum or two, as opposed to being an easy connect the dots or black and white scenario?
I mean, look at how they act about video games for a rather unrelated example. To alt-righters, there are no “games with flaws” or “games that while made by a crappy publisher, are still good”, it’s always “the absolute best” or “pure udder garbage”. They apply this either-or metric to everything; from relationships to governments.
I know it’s probably a point said a million times before around here, but as someone who’s constantly a victim of either-or mentalities, I feel like I need to highlight that point.