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Your girlfriend may be a secret uggo using makeup to deceive you, Red Pill dudes warn

Some women use makeup to try to disguise the fact that they are zombies
Some women use makeup to try to disguise the fact that they are zombies

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Bad news, guys! Over on the Red Pill subreddit, the regulars have uncovered a massive conspiracy to dupe men into relationships with women who are not the 8/10 would-bang hotties that they seem! This conspiracy is known as “makeup” — and you may already be a victim!

Earlier today, a Red Pill Redditor calling himself constructiveasshole dropped a massive truth bomb on his Red Pill colleagues. It turns out that that pretty gal you have your eye on — or that you might even be dating! —  is actually … not so pretty. Because women are FAKE.

Constructiveasshole, drawing on his own sad story, revealed some of the dirty tricks that women use to lure men to their doom:

My 24yo ex-girlfriend was an actress and I learned a shitton about how fake women are by dating her.

We lived together for a year in Los Angeles and I watched her get ready for auditions and wow. Like, this girl was a 5 at best without any makeup on. But when she got all dolled up for an audition I watched her apply pounds of thick foundation, false eyelashes, blonde hair extensions, blue contacts (seriously, some incredibly convincing blue contacts she ordered monthly from Italy), a padded bra (she was barely a B without it), extreme shapewear with butt pad inserts (!), and tons of other shit.

Butt pads! Will these evil harpies stop at nothing?

She also confessed to getting a nose job for her 18th birthday. Her new nose is cute. Her old nose was huge, like a witch. She got a tiny bit of botox in her lips and face, though this was harder to spot.

THE NOSE IS A LIE.

It didn’t look unnatural. Everything she did was extreme but it was subtle, wearing jeans and a t-shirt she looked like a casual hot girl. But she never got all dolled up for me unless we went out in public. Her hotness, and the 8/10 I assigned her when we met, was a lie.

TRULY WE ARE LIVING IN THE MATRIX.

But constructiveasshole’s ex is not the only devious 5/10 would-not-bang not-hottie using extreme-yet-subtle trickery to dupe men into assigning them several more hotness points than they objectively deserve.

Living in LA I’ve learned that beauty is in the bones. If a girl is truly beautiful she will look good with her makeup off. I think we should quit basing girls’ SMV on the caked-on lies they post on Instagram/Tinder, and instead rate them on the awkward candids buried in their Facebooks. I stared at this 5/10 every night and could barely fuck her by the end. Her bones were average and she’s boring.

So, fellas, remember to check the bones before popping a boner. Because you don’t want to end up bonerless in bed with an average batch of bones.

Learn to look past their makeup. Especially if you want to have kids with her! They might inherit her real eye color and real body size and real complexion and real nose/lips/wrinkles. I can spot plastic surgery a mile away now and it’s an instant nope. If she’s 25 and has had lots of work done, she’s a CC-rider trying to disguise her premature aging. No thanks.

Other Red Pillers stepped up to confirm that this evil conspiracy is as real as the totally objective 1-10 scale you can use to rate all women.

Captainpixysticks warned that the conspiracy is a vast one:

captainpixystick 40 points 9 hours ago   I'd say most women are ugly. Make up is the only reason why they look as attractive as they do. Women are very insecure because they know this. They know that 3 minutes with a wet towel would take them from an 8 to a 4.      permalink     embed     save     report     give gold  [–]George_l_rockwell 16 points 7 hours ago   Yeah, I live at a university, and women here look like completely different people when their makeup isn't on here. No homo, but men actually fare much better without makeup over women. If women didn't wear makeup, a lot of "hot chicks" would be on the same attractive league as many betas.

epixs — also, like George_l_rockwell, not a homosexual — wondered if there was “someway” to figure out if a bitch’s seeming beauty was the result of the cosmeticspiracy.

epixs 2 points 5 hours ago   Is there anyway I can learn how to spot womens make up tricks.  no homo but I analyze guys muscles and muscle insertions since I've started lifting 4-5 years ago (selective perception).  Wish there was someway I could distinctly spot a bitch using tons of makeup even if she pulls of as natural. It pisses me of thinking some 3-4/10 disguised as a 8/10 would trick me into believing shes hot.

2akurate, homosexual status unknown, brought up a worrying complication: the difficulty in telling that a hot girl is hot when she’s not dressed like a hottie.

2akurate 14 points 8 hours ago   Same here mate, this girl would turn heads where ever she whent, but when I got her off her high heels and she put her make-up off for the night she was a regular plain ass girl. Since that relationship I'm very conscious of this female trickery.  There is one problem inherent in men though (or maybe its just me) I don't notice beautiful girls if they wear normal clothes. Sometimes as an exercise I imagine a normal looking girl with heels and the lot and I can immediatly see how she could be totally hot, but she wouldn't turn up on my radar otherwise. It's evolution I guess, everyone is adapting and we can't really blame the girls as our own behavior is forcing them to distinguish themselves from the others.

HumanSockPuppet pointed out yet another complication: sometimes women who do have good bone structure turn out to be Emma Watson.

HumanSockPuppet 4 points 7 hours ago   As far as I'm concerned, Emma Watson is one of the ugliest bitches out there.  She may have decent bones, but her soul is tainted.

Stay frosty, fellas! It’s a treacherous world out there.

EDIT: Forgot to give a H/T to ResidentBalkanBitch on r/thebluepill for alerting me to the red pill post.

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Orion
Orion
7 years ago

Moggie,

misogynists are definitely aware of makeup ads, they just take the wrong lessons away. They don’t understand the the made-up look is artificial. They just think the finished look is “hot.” When they see before and afters, they walk away thinking that the model is an “ugly” woman who is using makeup to temporarily pass for “hot.” That’s what they think makeup is — a product marketed to SMV 5s to they can disguise themselves as HB 7s. Then they go out into the world looking for a woman who is “actually” “hot,” not realizing that what they want is a woman born with makeup on her face.

Orion
Orion
7 years ago

Crowstaff,

Those are PUAs. There is some overlap with red pill, but they don’t always get along.

Also, let’s be fair to the PUAs. No garish “peacocking” outfit has ever made a man look *more* attractive. They’re not perpetrating beauty fraud, they’re actually underselling.

Kootiepatra
7 years ago

I have never, ever understood the “makeup as deception” whine.

Because I, as a straight feeeeeemale, with zero boners at stake, have no problem identifying when my friends and family are wearing makeup. Even light, “natural” looks. I am aware of the fact that an awful lot of women wear makeup, and that makeup tends to alter a woman’s appearance to one degree or another, because–well, that’s the point of wearing it.

I can understand how a man with relatively little awareness might miss a simple mascara + powder + lip gloss look, because the point of that one is to be subtle. But if a woman is wearing that kind of makeup, she’s not going to look brain-meltingly different when she washes her face.

But if a man is shocked by how different a woman looks without her makeup, then she was almost certainly wearing quite a bit of it. There’s not a blessed thing wrong with wearing a lot of makeup—but it’s definitely not invisible, and therefore can’t be deceptive. A man absolutely *could have* spotted it without any trouble—of course, providing he actually spends any time looking at women who aren’t in magazines and films and cartoons.

Dear angry internet dudes: if you are seeing a face with makeup on it, and then get mad because the makeup comes off, the problem is with you, not the makeup-wearer. If you think women can only be beautiful if they look like they’re wearing makeup, except they are not allowed to wear makeup to look like that, then your standards are self-contradictory and silly. Don’t blame women when you lie to yourselves.

P.S. Nobody’s eyelids or lips come in non-skin colors. That should help you sort out most of your confusion.

Orion
Orion
7 years ago

If you’ve never put on makeup or watched a friend put on makeup, you can go a surprisingly long time without understanding mascara and lip gloss. At the same time, the mascara/powder/gloss look is substantially different from “no makeup,” and if I saw what I thought was a woman’s face melt off I would probably be pretty unnerved. It’s an understandable mistake, in my opinion. The thing about understandable mistakes though, is that you get to make a mistake once. Then you get over it rather than starting conspiracy theories.

lith
lith
7 years ago

It’s evolution I guess, everyone is adapting and we can’t really blame the girls as our own behaviour is forcing them to distinguish themselves from the others.

Firstly that’s a surprising amount of awareness as to what’s actually happening here (men’s behaviour drives women to dress and make-up in these ways*).
Secondly, that’s not how evolution works – over a handful of generations women don’t ‘evolve’ to using make-up and dressing to look pretty for men. That would be learning, cultural and societal pressures.

It’s a shame that he didn’t follow through on the awareness to realise that this criticism is exactly the kind of thing that drives women to do the very thing they’re criticising. Talk about no-win. “Oh, you put in all this effort for my benefit? I bet you look ugly under all that, take it off so I can tell for sure. No, wait, don’t, you might turn invisible to the male eye if you’re below a 4 and then I won’t be able to sex you.”

* Obviously it’s not the only factor but it’s the major one.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
7 years ago

If a beautiful woman stands quietly in the forest, wearing camo, and everyone mistakes her for an average-looking tree, is she still beautiful?

lith
lith
7 years ago

If a tree puts makeup and a dress on and there’s noone there to see it will it be an 8?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
7 years ago

Inside the MRA bubble, women in porn and video games are totes real, while women in the real world are fake and deceptive.

I love the idea that all these guys are super paranoid now. Every HB10 might secretly be concealing a Gorgon. Is it worth the risk to even approach women, knowing that all those hard-won Alpha Seduction Points might go down the drain the moment she takes off her makeup? The pool of desirable women was small to begin with, and now they’ve all decided to make the pool even smaller and only pursue the three women in the entire world who are natural HB10s with zero makeup.

I think it would be a win-win if their standards get so rarefied that they stop approaching women altogether.

blue collar nerd
blue collar nerd
7 years ago

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blue collar nerd
blue collar nerd
7 years ago

Dammit, don’t know how to post an image.

lith
lith
7 years ago

I’m waiting for the follow up post when they realise that women are disguising their naturally low intelligence with learning, knowledge and knowhow.

Lea
Lea
7 years ago

lith,
That’s awesome.

lith
lith
7 years ago

Okay, I’m curious now. Intrigued even.
What do they think makeup is actually for?

Linax5
Linax5
7 years ago

yeah women wear make up JUST to be viewed as a ”hot bitch” by some ugly assholes

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
7 years ago

This is such an oooold misogynist talking point
“God hath given thee one face, and you paint yourself another” – Hamlet. (c.1602.)

Why are these idiots thinking of having children with a woman who they don’t seem to know anything about beyond a) her appearance, b) whether or not she’s a “bitch”… Oh, right, because women are chattel. Forgot who I was dealing with here.

Why can’t they tell that this is clearly making them all miserable? It seems so obvious!

sunnysombrera
7 years ago

And yet over on Heartiste’s blog there is a recent post saying that makeup barely makes a difference…
http://www.donotlink.com/e92x

In this post Roissy uses stats and a college study, talks about SMV like it’s a stock market, and compares science to a horse.

He also comes out with these quotes:

Women should, and will, continue to put the penis on a pedestal and try-hard to please men by using makeup to increase their attractiveness, even when that attractiveness increase is miniscule.

HE ACTUALLY SAYS IT IN BLACK AND WHITE THIS TIME.

The sexual market is the ur-market. It is foundational. All other markets — including the venerated economics market — bend their knees to the Sex Market Overlord.

ikanreed
ikanreed
7 years ago

I hate these guys’ obsessions with makeup.

I personally also dislike makeup, and I hate how these guys turn something that’s a personal preference for me into a conspiracy by all women to trick them.

Like, can’t you jerks have an opinion about something without piling on unnecessary hatred of women? Is that so hard?

maghavan
maghavan
7 years ago

I ALWAYS look at the bones …… because I’m a skeletopansexual*

*I’m sexually attracted to skeletons of all genders. No fleshies!!!!!!!

Delphi Ote
Delphi Ote
7 years ago

All this business about “bones” and “evolution” sounds like some creepy eugenics shit to me. Breeding the master race are we, guys? Remind me, is it “alpha” or “uber”?

ej
ej
7 years ago

@sunnysombrera

That Heartiste piece is something else. Did you see the post-script? Apparently, there is a test for women to figure out their DMV (dating market value). I’m really curious about that quiz, but I also know that if I look at it, I will most likely be horrified. It’s apparently a “patented” test, demonstrating that he has no idea what patented means.

Delphi Ote
Delphi Ote
7 years ago

Is the sex market where you go to sell your crops after working on a sex farm?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUBZiwio0w

ej
ej
7 years ago

Yep. I was right. It’s horrifying. There are 34 questions; 23 are about physical appearance (+2 about clothing), 4 are about sex, and 5 are about personality. That’s pretty telling right there.

Here’s a DoNotLink for anyone who wants to know their DMV. I stopped counting my score when I got to the question that recommended I put a photo on HotOrNot.

http://www.donotlink.com/e93g

zoyamars
7 years ago

In the DMV test he says he doesn’t care about my deep worldview. But what is my deep worldview contains the dreaded feminism? WHAT THEN???

Also woo, I finally delurked myself…

sunnysombrera
7 years ago

OMG that test is horrific. You get minus points if you describe yourself as competitive or above average smart, only get a plus point if you’re willing to do anal and BJs on demand, must have an impossibly perfect body, be a contortionist in bed, AND go against nature by only growing hair on your head or lady garden. Apparently you should have asked Mother Puberty to exempt you from armpit and leg hair.

Underneath that he says that the BMI standard for women is different to men (because of COURSE it is). And then finishes off ALL that BULLSHIT with a “well men have it worse because we get judged by other things like bank balance and job title!”

Professor fate
Professor fate
7 years ago

gad these people. And really about the complaints about actress girlfriend putting on make-up., contact lenses, et al to go on an audition – well of course – it’s ACTING! Guy it’s not real life. Hollywood? dream factory? Any of this getting through? It’s what actors do. Transform themselves into someone else. That is their job. Complaining about actors using make up is like complaining about lumberjacks using chainsaws – these are the tools of the trade.
In the movies and theater everybody gets made up. Go out on stage or in front of a movie camera without make up under those bright lights and everybody looks washed out.
Really It’s make believe unless of course you think Hugh Jackman really does have claws that come out of his hands. Which given their rather feeble grasp on reality would not surprise me.

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