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Happy Women-Who-Really-Run-the-Country Day

The secret cabal that rules the United States
The secret cabal that rules the United States

While the rest of America wastes its time celebrating “President’s Day,” we here at Man Boobz celebrate those who truly run this great nation of ours: Evil, selfish women.

Wait, you were thinking, I thought it was men who mostly ran the world? No. It just looks that way. Oh, sure, all the presidents have been men. The overwhelming majority of elected officials are men. The rich people who seem to have the most influence over politicians tend to be men — it’s the Koch brothers, not the Koch sisters.

But to judge who has power in this world by looking at those who have power in this world is a giant mistake, according to our eminently logical friends in the Men’s Rights movement. That’s the APEX FALLACY.

Nope. Really, it’s ladies that run everything. And run it into the ground! Let’s hear what some of the fine gentlemen from The Spearhead have to say about this.  CitymanMichael invokes the sacred power of BIOTRUTH to explain why male politicians are little more than the slaves of women:

CitymanMichael February 16, 2014 at 14:32      Women live longer than men and thus the women’s demographic vote is around 54%.      Added to this is the fact that women biologically support each other whereas men tend to be more independent, any politician courts women’s vote.      Add into the mix power – I am still unsure how it is, not being a politician, but we all know, from Mugabe to Putin to Nixon to Chavez to Castro to Obama – they will not let go of power.      So yes, we are destined to be ruled by people who will do anything for women.     Well-loved. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 16 Thumb down 0

And this will inevitably lead to East German style repression. Ladies love East German style repression!

Anonymous Reader February 16, 2014 at 15:38      This suggests in turn that TFH’s assessment of libral democracy is correct. Because women will tend to vote for short-term security, and single women’s form of security is “more government”. Unlimited government power won’t be enough, though, to make every woman as secure as she wants to be, and the sheer cost is staggering. Towards the end of the GDR in East Germany, close to 1/3 of the entire population was serving as an informer to the STASI, and one can only imagine how much was spent on the secret police and the military.

So why not beat the ladies to the punch and just get rid of some of the peskier aspects of democracy? Oh, Mickey, you so undemocratic:

Mickey T February 16, 2014 at 19:01      Isn’t the usurpatory and destructive control of today’s feminism in this country today an illustration of why a Representative Democracy (as it is) will not succeed long term?     I don’t mean scrap it all. There are ways to alter the system……………..     Like or Dislike: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1

Hey, at least the Founding Fathers knew what was up when it came to women. That’s why they restricted voting to men!

Orthodox February 17, 2014 at 06:18      Women weren’t allowed to vote because men back in the day knew they were tyrannical by nature. It was 150 years later in the Age of Reason, 150 more years of “progress,” when society reached for the ideal of reason, people separated from their race, sex, ethnicity and purely rational beings. This is why the dark enlightenment is so powerful, it is the truth that even our Founders knew.BONUS OFF TOPIC RANT: In the same “women are ruining democracy or maybe democracy sucks anyway” thread I’ve been quoting from, our old friend geographybeefinalisthimself, the fellow who provided us with yesterday’s lovely rape fantasy, gives me yet another shoutout. This one makes even less sense than the last one, and suggests that to some in the Men’s Rights movement I am little more than a boogeyman conjured up whenever they feel they need a good scaring or someone — something — to rage against.

geographybeefinalisthimself February 17, 2014 at 04:19      OT but feminists are going to look really stupid trying to defend this woman:      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/craigslist-killer-claims-slayed-dozens-part-satanic-cult-report-article-1.1616297      There are plenty more stories about Miranda Barbour, who is believed to have lost count at 22 as to how many people she has killed. Remember, NOW opposes the death penalty (but only in the case of females, of course), so let’s watch them try to argue NAWALT here.      Let’s also watch Manboobz try to “mock misogyny” when the woman in question killed 22 people. I wonder if not even this will convince him that women can do wrong.     Like or Dislike: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0

On the off-chance that geographybeefinalisthimself is reading this: feminists aren’t defending this woman. Feminists don’t defend random female murderers because they are women. This particular woman is evil. I’m not the only one who thinks her story about killing 22 people as part of a Satanic cult starting when she was 13 sounds like bullshit — I’m pretty skeptical of all stories involving supposed Satanic cults and murder — but I wouldn’t be surprised if she has in fact killed a number of other people. Regardless of how many people she’s killed, she is a terrible, terrible person. I’m not sure what on earth that has to do with the purpose of this blog.

153 replies on “Happy Women-Who-Really-Run-the-Country Day”

Funny how all of CityManMichael’s examples of “people who will not let go of power” happen to be men. I mean, isn’t he trying to argue that women hold too much power?

Not that his examples even represent what he thinks he does. People elected to multiple terms by citizens ≠ won’t let go of power. At least not by itself. Fucking Democracy, How Does It Work?!

First thing that came to mind when I heard about Miranda Barbour was Henry Lee Lucas. Killed some, claimed to have killed a lot more.
If women are tyrannical by nature, how come we also, stereotypically, love cats? Ever tried to be tyrannical to a cat?

How can men be solely responsible for building civilization yet not run anything at the same time? I can’t tell if they’re complimenting themselves, or admitting they’re utter incompetence. If women run everything, wouldn’t we cease to be incompetent “make-workers” who never built anything or contributed to anything other than having babies? If women were able to mastermind a whole system whereby we’re running the world, yet doing none of the work, doesn’t that make men complete imbeciles? (According to their theories, I do not think men are imbeciles).

I ran into this “women shouldn’t vote” nonsense while looking for a cooking blog (despite what the dumbasses in the MRA movement may have you believe- some of us evil feminists make some damn good gourmet dishes). Anyway, I ended up in this bizarre little corner of the Internet run by someone called “Sunshine Mary” who runs what’s essentially a hate site filled with really crappy recipes and tips on how to be a doormat. This woman is an abortion and an embarrassment to any thinking people- and actually believes women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. I realize that they’re just pathetic assholes hating on women from behind computer screens, but it was still jarring to read. Needless to say, I felt like I needed about a million showers after chancing upon that blog!

Sunshine comes here sometimes to defend her shitty worldview, usually after David’s posted her latest thought-fail.

RE: Bina

Fidel Castro retired, so — oops, there goes that “never lets go of power” thing.

Not quite related, but I am still ASTOUNDED that man is still living. He’s like freakin’ Keith Richards or something, by all rights they should’ve kicked it a dozen times already, and yet they’re both STILL HERE. (Nelson Mandela was also on the deathproof list, until… 🙁 ) Seriously, what are those guys made of?

I can only aspire to such unkillability.

RE: Noadi

The thing is that there is a popular belief that insanity pleas will get you off a murder charge.

I’m sure you already know this, but for other Boobzers, yeah, the insanity defense is not worth taking if you have any other options. It works only 1% of the time, in part due to the huge public backlash after whatshisface, the Jodie Foster stalker. The pop cultural meme dates back to that, and it is quite untrue.

…I may have had to read a book about it for a class once. Learning About the Insanity Defense, if anyone’s curious or wants to learn more.

RE: Mnemosyne

Satanic Ritual Abuse? Wasn’t that a thing that everyone was worried about in the ’80s?

*sighs, rubs temples* Yes, and it has a large part to do with a lot of the backlash about multiple personality/MPD/DID, the diagnosis name and criteria change in the USA, and the shit I have to deal with on a regular basis from strangers trying to pull a Gotcha on me. FUCKING FALSE MEMORY SYNDROME FOUNDATION! *shakes fist*

RE: Eliza

Oh, we know about sunshinemary. She’s come here a few times! Not sure why on earth you’d choose the term ‘abortion’ to describe her, though.

Re: LBT- it was the first term that came to mind, I didn’t mean anything political/cultural by it but in
Retrospect maybe I should have picked a less loaded term. Sorry! Wasn’t thinking!

I actually poked around on the site after posting and saw some interesting articles on her

How can men be solely responsible for building civilization yet not run anything at the same time? I can’t tell if they’re complimenting themselves, or admitting they’re utter incompetence. If women run everything, wouldn’t we cease to be incompetent “make-workers” who never built anything or contributed to anything other than having babies? If women were able to mastermind a whole system whereby we’re running the world, yet doing none of the work, doesn’t that make men complete imbeciles? (According to their theories, I do not think men are imbeciles).

I think the process goes something like:

1. Men, being awesome, build civilization. Women just lie around eating bon-bons during this process.
2. The Right And Natural Order Of Things (RANOOT) puts men in charge of the civilization they built.
3. Women, being whiners, get jealous and want some of that for themselves. But rather than building anything of value themselves (which they couldn’t do anyway, lol), they decide instead to steal power from its rightful owners (men) and upset the RANOOT.
4. Things are a little fuzzy here. One school of thought has it that women manipulate men into ceding power via pussy, while another holds that women just sit in the street and cry, and this causes men to give them what they want for some reason.
5. So now women have power. But because women suck, they don’t use it correctly. And men don’t bother to take it back because of pussy, crying, or both.
6. Society collapses.

karalora, your list reminds me of Charles Manson’s theories except with substituting women for African Americans. He was going to start a race war with his murders and the black race would beat the white race because it was their time to rule. However, he thought they would be incompetent and need Manson to run things for them or something.
Congratulations cityman! You are as coherent as Charles Manson! Quite an accomplishment. Or not.

Is this rather strange man suggesting that because one woman claims to have murdered 22 people, all women have murdered 22 people?
I’ll bet “Schrodinger’s Rapist” really pisses him off, lol.

“FUCKING FALSE MEMORY SYNDROME FOUNDATION! *shakes fist*”

So much seconding!

As for insanity pleas, when they do get accepted, the outcome is often worse than pleading guilty would’ve been. A friend interned with a NGRI atty (not guilty by reason of insanity) — one of the clients was 25~ years into what would’ve been 5 years max had he pled guilty. Simple assault, his victim (his sibling) is pleading for him to be released (or was, maybe it happened since I heard about this). Only time I’d say it’s worth it is if you’re facing the death penalty, in which case life in an asylum is at least not death.

so let’s watch them try to argue NAWALT here

…the logic fail here is impressive.

I mean, so is their whole APEX FALLACY thing. “Just because the figurehead is male… and all figureheads all male… and all the behind the scenes movers and shakers we know of are male… even the private ones who refuse to be interviewed, like the Koch brothers… just because ALL OF THEM are male, you can’t assume anything about who’s holding power in that system!”

I feel an overwhelming urge to invent a new fallacy that’s nothing a fallacious set of premises that proves conclusively I’m a god and have been repeating the same day forever.

so let’s watch them try to argue NAWALT here

Yeah, this is really bizarre. It read as if it would be more difficult to argue that not all women are like that if the example you use is extra evil and horrible, when it’s OBVIOUSLY (I’d really like to have extra large letters here, like one meter high, to fully stress how extremely obvious this is) the other way around. If someone makes a mild accusation against all women, like “all women are selfish” or something along these lines, it’s still false, but it’s too vague for us to offer some kind of water tight proof of its falsity. But accusing all women of being mass murderers – uh, no, dude. It’s not just ludicrous, it’s even mathematically impossible for half of the human race to murder a whole bunch of people each.

@chriswilson @grumpycat

Thank you! Although I woke up with chest congestion problems today from breaking my ribs. It’s the last thing I needed. Prolly going to be on antibiotics for a couple weeks after I see the doc this Thurs. When you get a rib fracture you can’t breathe deep b/c pain. Then your lungs get nasty. 🙁

I hope to be well by Flower Count day. We have an early Spring here in BC so we start counting flowers at the end of Feb, early March. Something like that.

“Just because the figurehead is male… and all figureheads all male… and all the behind the scenes movers and shakers we know of are male… even the private ones who refuse to be interviewed, like the Koch brothers… just because ALL OF THEM are male, you can’t assume anything about who’s holding power in that system!”

It works for the anti-semites, it’s good enough for MRAs. In fact, there’s *more* evidence in favor of the New World Order than there is in favor of the Vast Feminist Conspiracy.

To every white knight on this website, including the esteemed admin –

Chivalry is – Defending women against evil, not defending women’s evils.

Think about it.

I guess when you spend too much time in the man-o-sphere, you start to conflate “feminists never find fault in women” with NAWALT and it turns into AWANLT? I find this extra funny because both of those concepts are largely MRA fabrications to begin with. It’s sort of like the misogynistic version of “ATM machine”.

Karalora,

Thank you! It all makes sense now! I guess my ladybrains couldn’t handle the complexity.

Seriously, tho, that was hilarious. I really lol’d at crying in the street and pretty much all of it. I think I’m stealing that explanation.

“It’s true. I’m holding up my best friend’s uterus right now.”

I may have read that in GLaDOS’s voice. And it was awsome.

Dammit, I am a male which means I can’t biologically support my husband!

I guess this means he WILL need a jockstrap after all. *shakes head sadly*

Oh, by the way, if I have any readers on… my writeathon bonus poll is in deadlock! Your contribution could spell what stories get posted and which don’t! Also save me from constantly checking to see when a clear winner emerges!

Nah, that’s more Sneak’s deal. Pink goes better with blond hair, blue eyes, and tanish skin than it does red hair and pale skin.

He says disco balls it is!

I thought the insanity defense in movies/tv was usually temporary insanity. As in, they say they were overcome by rage and they didn’t know what they were doing but they were alright now, so it should be manslaughter not murder. (IMO if you are overcome by rage, you have an anger problem that needs dealing with – I don’t know if that happens IRL, but it annoys me on tv shows as it seems to be a ‘boys will be boys’ defense sort of).

In movies, when someone is “criminally insane” they are treated worse than someone who is just criminal.

Disco balls – wut, they have mirrors on and revolve?

Well, that certainly creates an interesting mental picture.

Okay this is driving me up the wall – how the hell do I search for comments in the blog (not just in a thread)? I’ve looked on WordPress and it says “choose the comments option on the WordPress search page” but when I go there there is no fucking comments option. I’m really sick of this!

@kitteh
I don’t think you can search for comments on the wordpress search page. Can you link to where you saw that?

I usually just use google. Type in what you want to search and then add:

site:manboobz.com

I just don’t believe in a huge network of Satanists practising ritual abuse.

neither does the FBI.

Myoo, they talk about comments search here:

http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/comment-search/

It isn’t apparent whether they mean only for a blog owner or for readers as well. I’ve tried the Google search and it only searches for posts, not comments. I’ve seen various plug-ins that claim to search comments, but when I try downloading them that’s it, they sit in the download folder on Windows and there’s nothing in them that can actually be installed/run. I’ve no idea what I’m supposed to do with them.

I was biologically supported by a wonderful woman for nine months of gestation and about a year of breastfeeding, but then so was my brother and he’s male so I guess Mum was doing ladying wrong.

Aren’t MRAs committing the apex fallacy when they claim credit for ALL! THE! ACHIEVEMENTS! EVER! based on the accomplishments of a few outliers within their group? They’re asking people to judge them as individuals based on the performance of the 1%. Except when it’s not convenient for them to be lumped in with the top of the pyramid, because then they can’t whine about teh wimmenz ruining everything.

As for biologically supporting women, I literally vote with my ovaries. I hold the ballot against my abdomen and punch out the chad with that month’s follicle.

Ewww. Reading further, it sounds suspiciously like the FMSF should really be called the Incestuous Parents and Enablers’ Foundation For Saying Their Children Are Liars.

Well, false memories are something we all have. If someone tells you you did something as a kid, it’s possible for that to end up feeling like a real memory, even if it didn’t happen. There was a study where they implanted a “lost in the mall” memory in subjects. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_the_mall_technique). Gaslighting could cause false memories too. And some people implant their own false memories to make themselves feel better.

In the case of False Memory Syndrome, the false memories are of abuse or other trauma that didn’t actually happen. And it’s caused by therapists etc asking leading questions or people imagining things under hypnosis and being told they are real.

Basically what Kittehs said. There was a rash of SRA cases in the 80s and early 90s, I think, and while memory has long been established as malleable and warpable, like Kim, says, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation is a bit of a different beast.

If I recall correctly, the foundation was established basically because an adult claimed her parents had abused her. The parents’ response was to claim that she had false memories of these things, and then develop the Foundation. Sooooo yeaaaaaah, pretty dubious circumstances. At best, you have two very misguided parents trying to protect children (note that the accused still doesn’t speak to them, from what I recall), at worst, you have two abusers going to elaborate lengths to not only cover up their own abusive behavior, but also kick up a lot of dust and smoke about OTHER people’s abuse as well.

On top of that, that damned foundation means that any time I come out multi, I have to be ready to argue that my memories exist. I run into people explicitly trying to manipulate me because they think my memory is faulty. (I’m not shitting either, this happened to me just this past fall.) I run into people who think that incompetent or malevolent therapists planted everything that happened to me in my head, and that actually I’m a singlet victimized by the mental health system. Multi is irrevocably tied in a lot of peoples’ heads to false memories so it’s something I deal with pretty often.

All in all, I hate the guts of that damned Foundation and hate that so many people seem to take them seriously.

On top of that, that damned foundation means that any time I come out multi, I have to be ready to argue that my memories exist. I run into people explicitly trying to manipulate me because they think my memory is faulty. (I’m not shitting either, this happened to me just this past fall.) I run into people who think that incompetent or malevolent therapists planted everything that happened to me in my head, and that actually I’m a singlet victimized by the mental health system. Multi is irrevocably tied in a lot of peoples’ heads to false memories so it’s something I deal with pretty often.

Fuuuuuuuck

Long distance non contact hugs, just on principle

Why would a therapist want to plant false memories in a patient in order to make them multi? I’m not seeing what the motive would be.

RE: cassandrakitty

I hate that I know the answer to this question. Or answers, rather, since it’s kinda squishy.

As multi became better and better known, it became this weird sort of status symbol to have a multi patient. Multis were supposedly so rare and so difficult to treat (and so lucrative with book deals!) that it became this creepy feather in a shrink’s cap. Some therapists were unscrupulous enough or determined enough to find a multi of their very own that yes, they would either deliberately or unconsciously enforce the behavior in their patients.

Traditionally, system members were “discovered” through hypnotherapy… which is also a very easy way to fuck around with someone’s memory. So, you get a bunch of earnest (or nasty) therapists hypnotizing their patients, looking around for other system members, and voila! Sometimes they’d be spontaneously created. And of course, the more horrific and theatrical abuse, the bigger the kick, so therapists would go looking around for that, and… yeah.

So yeah, it was a pretty squicky, awful time that irrevocably changed how multi is perceived in the public eye. I STILL get people thinking I was created by an unscrupulous therapist.

Was this during the time period where they were trying to psychoanalyze the gay out of people?

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