So over on MGTOWforums — the festering hive of misogyny that is the internet’s largest forum for so-called Men Going Their Own Way — one of the regulars was so impressed with the Evo-Psychy insights of a YouTube commenter by the name of Moe that he decided to share them with the gang there. And I have decided to share them with you.
Brace yourself, though, because Moe is bringing some hardcore SCIENCE to the topics of feminism being awful and why women are such terrible selfish child-murdering monsters.
Moe starts off with some MGTOW basics:
Feminism is a natural development of women’s desire to hate, manipulate, exploit, and discriminate against men for women’s personal gain.
Yes, Moe, but why?
Women do not and cannot love men.
Dang. That’s rough.
Women only like gathering stuff, because they are biologically driven to gather as much stuff as possible. Women actually get an emotional rush from buying stuff and receiving stuff. They do not get the same rush from creating, achieving, or earning stuff.
Oh, because cavewomen were gatherers! You can’t argue with SCIENCE like that. Mostly because it isn’t science. It’s just words arranged in such a way that they sound vaguely like science to people who have no idea what science is.
Women see men as their competitors (advisories) and providers of resources. This all means women have an amorality similar to lower evolved animals that steal or do anything possible to procure resources.
Uh, so pretty much all animals then? I mean, evolutionarily speaking, animals basically need to do two things: they need to survive and reproduce, and eating is sort of essential to the first task.
Also, if you’re trying to relate womens’ interest in buying things with their role as gatherers in hunter-gatherer societies, wouldn’t that mean that men would be similarly interested in killing and eating stuff? How is killing and eating animals any less amoral than, you know, picking berries?
The government provides them with an opportunity to force employers, all men, their men (yes they like to cuckold), education institutions, and even other women to provide for them.
Wait, how did we get from gathering to cuckolding?
IMO Many women do not feel the need to have children. When big daddy government will take care of women from birth to death, then women will have less or no child(ren). Children were just an old age policy for women: something to use when their man-slave dropped dead.
Yeah, women carefully arranged all that pregnancy and childbirth stuff with Mother Nature — also a woman! — so they’d have children and grandchildren to sponge off of.
Women also used to practice infanticide overwhelmingly on little girls throughout history, because those little girls provided less future utility (use) to the the woman. Also boys are easier to manipulate and will be needed asap if their man-slaves drops dead quickly.
So, killing girls is actually a form of discrimination against … men.
The modern divorce laws in western nations also allow women to get the greatest utility from the ex-husband through holding the child(ren) hostage, while having multiple new men to exploit for even more resources and other benefits. This is the reason for the high divorce rate. Women do not want or need men, and given the option they will be happier acquiring more stuff from government, multiple men, and the babies daddy.
Never mind that welfare payments are dinky and that roughly 30% of custodial mothers don’t receive any of the child support money they’re owed.
The real fatal flaw of feminism, all women doing this in mass creates a situation where the population declines, while the welfare system increases. These women are illogical, because they just assume: men will continue to put up with their shit … .
Oh, dear. Is the apocalypse near at hand? I have the strange feeling that the apocalypse is near at hand.
Well, welcome to the new reality women: almost 25% of you will never be married. Discriminating against men pisses them off and drives them from education and work, so your hypergamous needs will be unfulfilled. The single men will produce less, so the government will receive less. Employers will leave the country, in order to flee high regulations, taxation, and lower productivity female employees.
And here it comes, right on schedule!
Women have less desire to produce as much as men, so they are inefficient employees in comparison. Lower standards and female accommodations also lower business productivity, and increase costs.
Oh no! Damn those lazy women.
Hey, while you’re at it, can you work lazy brown people into the mix somehow?
The government will increase immigration, because it needs more slaves to pay the growing women’s needs, but the new slaves are of a different culture that does not value the 40-60 hour week westernize male slave system. Also, the immigrants will take full advantage of your welfare system more so than the natives.
Thanks! Misogyny and racism, two great tastes that taste great together!
Welcome to a diminishing economy, where less men will give a shit about women. Your wants will increase, but the resources will decrease. Haha I am going to love seeing the world turn to shit in the next few years!
Well, I guess we can’t argue with SCIENCE.
Yeah it’s this, these types really couldn’t care less about the person living inside the body they’re trying to get. Her personality, her feelings, her comfort level? Nah. Those things are just obstacles and inconveniences on the way to getting sex.
Exactly how HAWT can someone who’s a vicious sneak be?
Pulling teeth without painkillers doesn’t magically become more bearable if the dentistry tools are gilded and polished.
As for the blowjob…well, are psudeo-predatory misanthropes usually sexually skilled? I would wager no.
10Knives: They don’t think about what she might think. They don’t really see her as a person, with wants, needs, desires, intellect.
They aren’t running these scripts and approaches to get to know her, they are working on the Nintendo theory of Sexuality. If, so they think, they say the right things, in the right order, from the proper initial conditions then the “female” will just decide she wants to fuck.
Which is a huge part of why they are such persistent assholes; when one approach fails it’s not because they were jerks whom the woman didn’t want, it’s that they misread which technique she was going to fall for. So if negging her doesn’t work, then it must be time to negg her boyfriend. If that doesn’t work it’s time to, “kino escalate”. If that’s not enough then they think they need to move onto, “isolating” her, etc.
Because it’s not about her, she’s just a tally-mark on the way to the “respect” of their PUA Peers.
valyt: I think you are right about FPS games. I’m so-so at them; mostly because I can’t see what’s going on where I want to look (that and a lot of them require stupid levels of frontal assault; where the trick is to take huge amounts of damage; “heal” and do it again).
Well one large part of it is the ability to utterly ignore personality, and it’s influence on anything. So someone who has a vicious, insulting mean streak can still be considered “hot” because their deeply flawed, insensitive and nasty ways are just ignored.
Yeah, it makes me confused too.
What I find more interesting about the whole “Pick someone’s partner apart” gambit is the way it just reveals so much about the mental process that goes into it.
ie:
“Hi. Your boyfriend is not good. He is worse than me. Spend time with me. Not because I am better, but because he is worse.”
It’s not about being more charming, or more fun, or more interesting, or more sexual, or more seductive, or more anything, in such a way that you can conceivably sweep someone off their feet by the sheer joy you bring with your company and lovely ways, because to that mindset the idea of interesting, good people don’t exist. It’s about everyone else being worse, and you being a momentary respite from a life of misery ( added into a nicely ordered hierarchy of people always being on a scale of lower or higher, and this being in absolute rather than nuanced terms, but I digress)
So it’s not about the PuA being a charming, interesting person worth spending time with, it’s about the PuA framing things in such a way as the prey-woman having to sleep with him, because if she doesn’t, she’s missing out on her one chance at happiness and will spend the rest of her life as a hollow, miserable person. That’s where all the bloody negs come from as well, the disqualifying, the jabs and jeers, it’s all about emotional roughhousing until such a point where someone needs to sleep with someone else for validation, because the rest of the world sucks so much and I’m offering you a way out for a bit.
Until you get too old, like 20. Then I’m dumping you.
sigh
@10knives
Cracked had an article where someone tried to make the most unappealing okcupid profile with the image of an attractive woman as the profile picture. They still drew in people who were unfazed by violent and incoherent comments the fake account spewed.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-things-i-learned-from-worst-online-dating-profile-ever/
The conclusion may be that these kind of people only value women as sexual objects and have no intention of paying attention to their personalities at all.
I’m less accurate with the thumbstick on a console controller than I am with the mouse, but that’s a small quibble when I’m playing a late-model Medal of Honor game and watching my paratrooper shake off those MG42 bullets like I’m feckin’ Wolverine. Somehow that’s more jarring to my suspension of disbelief than health pickups scattered all over.
Maybe that’s it. Logan was in WWII (possibly also WWI but I digress). Every MoH protag has got to be The Wolverine.
What was that article from a couple of weeks ago? A woman tried to be as offensive as she could to dissuade suitors on a dating site. She had a friend who was a model and borrowed a pic for her profile.
She said she would spermjack them. She did offer to pull some teeth from some guy, I believe.
But they didn’t back down or get scared away.
It looks like you just don’t have much in common with those people, 10knives.
It’s funny, because the FPS genre got where it is by going the opposite way of its big daddy, Doom. The mechanics of Doom are dodging-based; the key to becoming a decent player is realizing you can outmaneuver basically everything. Every game that followed decided to base their mechanics on tanking hits instead.
Hey, how much of that 25% of women who won’t get married actually WOULD get married if we could achieve universal marriage equality?
I’ll confess that I’m confused, though… I *thought* I was experiencing an ’emotional rush’ (funny, I thought it was pride, but that could be the exhaustion talking) from creating a small business, achieving a wide customer base and earning money to pour back into it to keep it running (not to mention spending cash for the bottled water, designer handbags and SCENTED FUCKING CANDLES) but apparently I’m just feeling that because I’m gathering stuff? I mean, I don’t even like shopping very much (unless we’re talking about shopping for books, and I’ve been too busy for a lot of reading lately), so how does that work?
Man, I really need to play the first two Dooms again.
The apex of that kind of game-play, I humbly submit, was Descent and its sequels. I had trouble with one boss until I realized that I could outrun everything he could throw at me, and the problem was getting him in my sights and avoiding his big guns at the same time.
@Falconer
You remember Descent, too? Omg. You’re the best.
“They do not get the same rush from creating, achieving, or earning stuff.”
BULLSHIT. Nope, I’m not a sculptor or an artist or anything, and I absolutely hate money. BULL.
“Women also used to practice infanticide overwhelmingly on little girls throughout history, because those little girls provided less future utility (use) to the the woman. Also boys are easier to manipulate and will be needed asap if their man-slaves drops dead quickly.”
Gee, I wonder why female infanticide was more prevalent back then, could it be because men valued sons more?
Oh man, Descent came free with my family’s first Windows-based PC. We played it over and over and over and always hit a wall somewhere around the 12th level or something.
I bought a copy of all three games off of GOG recently. I was oddly gratified to realize that I still have muscle memory for the first three levels of the first game.
Oh and that baby stuff? I’d rather adopt. There’s so many kids out there who don’t have anyone.
Wait – “natives”.
So he just suggested (unless he’s from teh UK), that the white dudes already here are teh “natives”.
oh dear.
I was under the impression that I don’t like shopping either, but realized that what is actually happening is that there is such an intense emotional rush of biological fulfillment, my brain interprets it as terror.
You may be onto something here. I thought I hated shopping too, but clearly I love it so much it is simply overwhelming.
Heh, I was just on deviantart and some kid started complaining about how feminists “are always angry like they’re on their period and when they see porn they get upset” only it was in terrible English.
Such a simplistic and ignorant view. I think I’ll forgive them this time, they have no idea.
Wouldn’t work. These guys are in the “couldn’t find his arse with both hands and a map” category.
10knives:
Change that to a woman of fifty and you’re pretty much describing me, and yes, it makes total sense! I don’t want a hateful person in my vicinity, let alone my bed.
@kittehserf and yet, from what I have gathered from my time reading on this site, you have a loving, fulfilling relationship that consists of everything that PUAS and MGTOW discount and even vilify. You seem happy and they seem angry and hateful, almost as though they are looking in the wrong place for the important happiness stuff. I’m probably just internalizing misandry, though.
Those “don’t care what her personality is like” guys must have never actually succeeded at hooking up with one of those women they hate, right? Because if they had, they’d know that, no matter how little you care about another person, it’s definitely still possible for them to ruin a good time.
Not gonna lie, I have been tempted on numerous occassions to create a fake dating profile account online, using one of our pre-transition glamour shots at the sage of sixteen as the pic, and saying quite clearly on the page, “This is not a real account,” or something, then playing Whack-a-Douche. It’s petty, but…
RE: Brooked
“old school collaging”
O_o Wait, what? My kid sibling does collage, and it’s really cool, but I dunno that I’d call that a post-apocalyptic survival skill… zie can totally decoupage, though!
RE: pecunium
Dammit, you’re making me curious about paintball and nostalgic for laser tag. I’d LOVE to learn some of those tactics; I haven’t played any laser tag since I was a wee bairn.