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Red Pill Theorist alarmed by the prospect of women freezing their eggs, having sex in their 40s

Dirty scheming bird women!
Dirty scheming bird women!

So the manosphere blogger who calls himself The Red Pill Theorist has managed to work himself into a tizzy over a Wall Street Journal piece by a woman who — gasp! — froze some of her eggs in her 30s in order to give her more time in which to find the right guy with whom to have kids.

In her op-ed, titled “Why I Froze My Eggs (And You Should, Too),” Sarah Elizabeth Richards wrote:

Between the ages of 36 and 38, I spent nearly $50,000 to freeze 70 eggs in the hope that they would help me have a family in my mid-40s, when my natural fertility is gone. For this baby insurance, I obliterated my savings and used up the money my parents had set aside for a wedding. It was the best investment I ever made.

Egg freezing stopped the sadness that I was feeling at losing my chance to have the child I had dreamed about my entire life. It soothed my pangs of regret for frittering away my 20s with a man I didn’t want to have children with, and for wasting more years in my 30s with a man who wasn’t sure he even wanted children. It took away the punishing pressure to seek a new mate and helped me find love again at age 42.

I have a lot of reactions to this op-ed, ranging from “damn that’s a lot of money” to “that’s kind of a sad way to look at your past relationships” to “congratulations to you, I guess, but I don’t think this is really a solution to the work-life dilemma faced by most working would-be-moms.” (See here and here for discussions of this latter issue that are a lot more informed than my gut reaction.)

The Red Pill Theorist had, well, a different reaction, worrying that egg freezing could become a “grrlpower-enabling” technology, much like the birth control pill before it, and predicting that evil Democrats will soon demand that it be covered by Medicaid.

His real worry? That egg freezing will allow women to have sex with a variety of men into their 30s and even — gasp! — their 40s without “settling down” with the hardworking betas who’ve been waiting patiently on the sidelines for a chance to score a little nookie with the ladies before these ladies get completely old and ugly.

If women begin freezing their eggs en-masse at thirty, and embark upon fifteen more years of debauchery, watch out.  The current trend of beta misery, female misery, and alpha ecstasy is only going to get worse.  Now 30-35 year olds with a lick of sense leap off the carousel with all the alacrity they can muster.  But what if they don’t have to?  They’ve got frozen eggs, and early-thirties women can be decent looking.  There’s going to be a massive increase in the supply of female sexuality in the dating market.  We all saw how well that worked out for women in the sixties.

The Red Pill Theorist imagines that somehow these gals will manage to stick those poor, pitiful, endlessly used and abused beta schlubs with the bill:

In the future, there won’t just be divorce-rape.  There will be pre-divorce rape.  Crafty college gals will extract financial resources from their beta boyfriends to freeze their eggs, and then unhaapyness will set in, and the beta will be stuck with the bill.

His grand conclusion:

Egg freezing is one more brick in the wall of total sexual marketplace deregulation. Bit by bit, the chains that once encircled the hypergamic beast are falling away.  There’s never been a better time for men with options, never been a worse time for men without them.  …  It’s the next sexual revolution, except this time, women 30-40 will get to have some ill-advised fun.

Imagine that. Women in their 30s and 40s. Having fun. The horror!

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Briznecko
Briznecko
8 years ago

Now 30-35 year olds with a lick of sense leap off the carousel with all the alacrity they can muster. But what if they don’t have to? They’ve got frozen eggs, and early-thirties women can be decent looking.

But…I thought women became ugly hags that no man would touch at 25. Why would they be scared of 30+ women going a few extra rounds on the cock carousel?

Briznecko
Briznecko
8 years ago

Huzzah! First comment! In celebration, Mantan Moreland and Ben Carter will serenade you with their amazing Vaudville act “The Incomplete Sentence.”

*kinda silly, I know, to celebrate first comment, but I’m looking for the upside to things this week!

tarnishedsophia
8 years ago

“…and early thirties women can be decent looking.”

Waitjustaminute! I thought that all my physical attractiveness flew out the window, never to be seen again, when I turned 25 about 4 years ago. Isn’t that how it works with us womenfolk, being all stale bread/old milk like? He better watch out…people will start to think he’s a feminist just like Martin. 🙂

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Wait until the Red Pill dude gets older and finds out people are still fucking, regardless of age (and he won’t be fucking 25 year olds when he’s 50, I guarantee it). These dudes have so much growing up to do.

I don’t think egg-freezing is going to become much of a thing with that price tag.

Sandy
Sandy
8 years ago

I thought deregulation was supposed to be such a great thing for the market? Oooooh, that only counts for the menz moniez and not the wimminz eggz.

ProPatria Truthteller
ProPatria Truthteller
8 years ago

Yes, the problem with the manosphere is that they accuse women of being sexually deviant when men are even more sexually deviant. It proves that both men and women need to get back to traditional Christianity and natural family planning, with no technology. The technology to conceive children unnaturally has been a disaster for our civilization. It cannot be blamed on feminists since it was mostly male scientists who did it, but they definitely took advantage of it. As Andrea Dworkin, one of the few feminists worth reading talked about, the pro-sex feminist women and the pro-sex mysogenist faction of the men’s movement, along with the abortion/military/industrialist complex, are working together to destroy America and the family.

Aaliyah
8 years ago

abortion/military/industrialist complex

lol

princessbonbon
8 years ago

It proves that both men and women need to get back to traditional Christianity and natural family planning, with no technology.

Or no, they do not need to become Christians, traditional or otherwise, if they do not want to.

Humans have been using natural and unnatural means of family planning for millennia long before Jesus came to visit. They will continue to do so because humans are humans and that means some want babies, some do not, and no one should ever be forced to have one without wanting to.

Sandy
Sandy
8 years ago

Darwin forbid a woman actually enjoy sex . . .

wguffaw-ferrets
wguffaw-ferrets
8 years ago

Maybe if we didn’t live in a society where women were made to feel like unnatural freaks and incomplete beings if they didn’t have babies (preferably their own biological babies), we wouldn’t even be witnessing this dilemma or having the resulting conversation right now … ?

Wait a second, which vectors of society pressure women into feeling like they need to have babies? Not feminism, which is gaining ground but is hardly the cultural force these MRA dudes think it is anyway … Hang on, I’m sure it will come to me someday.

Oh, but no, you’re right pro-patriarchy dude: the solution is *actually* to return to Abrahamic religion, full-on Quiverfull style. That will definitely solve all the problems! There could be no other solution. I mean, that just makes the most sense.

wooster87
8 years ago

Reblogged this on woosterlang87.

Gametime
8 years ago

It proves that both men and women need to get back to traditional Christianity and natural family planning, with no technology.

Yes, definitely the worst thing about modern times is the lower rate of infant mortality. Families should definitely go back to the “have a dozen or so kids and hope some of them stick” strategy.

Presumably this dingus is also upset that women don’t die in childbirth as often? Because, y’know, that’s just the cost of natural Godly methods.

Aaliyah
8 years ago

It proves that both men and women need to get back to traditional Christianity and natural family planning, with no technology.

Actually, it would be nightmarish for countless people. But it’s not like those other people matter!

Marie
Marie
8 years ago

@Pro Patria

It proves that both men and women need to get back to traditional Christianity and natural family planning, with no technology.

Hate to burst your little isolated bubble, but ‘getting back’ to traditional christian family planning implies everyone came from there, which is false. Also, my mom and dad used birth control to avoid having kids while they were in grad school. They’re both christians, and my dad has been a sub deacon at one of the churches we’ve been to over the years. Plz explain to me how birth control does a bad chr1st1an one make.

The technology to conceive children unnaturally has been a disaster for our civilization.

Citation needed!

along with the abortion/military/industrialist complex,

I…I don’t even, okay.

are working together to destroy America and the family.

THE family. As though there is only one way for it to be done right. Go fuck yourself.

@Gametime

Yes, definitely the worst thing about modern times is the lower rate of infant mortality.

Damn our technology! 😉

katz
8 years ago

abortion/military/industrialist complex

lol

You won’t be laughing when you’re in the sights of my fetus cannon.

goodrumo
8 years ago

Reblogged this on iheariseeilearn.

budmin
budmin
8 years ago

I really wish these dudes were more serious about their sepratism.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

As Andrea Dworkin, one of the few feminists worth reading talked about, the pro-sex feminist women and the pro-sex mysogenist faction of the men’s movement, along with the abortion/military/industrialist complex, are working together to destroy America and the family.

Yeah… no.

I bet Dworkin is the only feminist this nitwit can name.

Marie
Marie
8 years ago

@Katz

You won’t be laughing when you’re in the sights of my fetus cannon.

XD So glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that…

cloudiah
8 years ago

XD So glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that…

Me too. 😀

pollydactyl
8 years ago

ProPatria Truthteller’s post is just a massive pile of citation needed. Also, pro-sex people are destroying “the family” but unnatural methods of conceiving are bad? Do you know how babby is formed?

Hi everyone else. I decided to finally delurk 🙂

Zanana the Pegging Queen
Zanana the Pegging Queen
8 years ago

I bet Dworkin is the only feminist this nitwit can name.

I’m betting they just dig sex-negativity in whatever guise they can find it…

katz
8 years ago

It’s real easy to get ammo; I just fish ’em out of the river.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Hi pollydactyl. Please enjoy your complimentary welcome package.

Marie
Marie
8 years ago

@pollydactyl

Hello! And welcome 😀 I don’t have the link to welcome package, but have some scented fucking candles and a hard chair!

Also, my mom’s take on the baby-making was that you were supposed to do a combination of just accepting whenever babies come and not having much sense for enjoyment. (from what she’s told me) that’s how she was taught during her time in catholic school. But yeah…kinda bleak, and she ended up using birth control anyway. I guess pro sex people destroy the family because they aren’t married? Or don’t get their karmic babies*? Probably because ‘ew sluts’ or whatever :/ Thinking too much into this.

*babies as punishment! yay! /sarcasm. Can we not have kids for the sake of kids, not for ‘consequences’ to sex?

wow that comment took a mood derail…

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