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Women created the patriarchy in order to enslave men, and other news from Upside-down-and-backwards land

Women: Constanly plotting to enslave men with their tears.
Women: Constantly plotting to enslave men with their phony tears.

Today, some Deep Thoughts about men, women, children, empathy, mini-vans, and patriarchy, from the inimitable Men’s Rights activist and proud misogynist Rob Fedders, whom I found being quoted with approval and even some relish by MGTOWer elder MarkyMark on his little blog today.

Mr. Fedders starts off with a classic misogynist trope: women are like children.

Very few women are capable of empathizing with men. There are about as many women who have the ability to empathize with men as there are children capable of empathizing with adults.

This is what most men fail to grasp, and why they go round and round in circles trying to “explain things” to women.

Women just don’t care. We are here for their purposes, not ours. …

Women will never “care” about men in the same way that men “care” about the wellbeing of women. …

We are designed like this by nature … .

Mr. Fedders offers proof of this evolutionary design by considering a dilemma that preoccupied our ancient ancestors on the African savannah. Namely: who gets the minivan?

You can even see how this works with the way that men and women buy family vehicles. The wife and kids are always put in the best vehicle/mini-van/SUV as possible to “protect them” etc. etc. while the husband drives the run-down piece of crap to work… when the time comes that the husband gets a second vehicle you can usually hear the wife chirping in, “We had to get Joe a new truck… because the last one wasn’t safe and we don’t know what we would do if something happened to him.

That’s the way it has always been and the way it will likely always be.

Apparently, men hunted the mammoth in crappy old pickup trucks.

Fedders returns to his main theme:

Men are a tool to women… a “business.” And to successfully work that business, they must always appear in the needy/attention category. Babies who don’t cry don’t get milk… and women who don’t get attention don’t get taken care of by men. It is an innate feature of humans.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, women have ruled the world from time immemorial.

Women do control society’s values and mores… they lead with what they think is fashionable, and men follow, because by nature we are designed to give women what they want.

And, oh, women invented patriarchy as well.

Women “are” society. What women’s wants are is what society’s want’s are. This is where women are lying when they talk about the dreaded “patriarchy.” The patriarchy only existed because women explicitly approved of it, and endorsed it morally – causing the men to follow suit.

Turns out that patriarchy is basically just a way to make all men slaves to their women:

This is what is happening today too. Most of the anti-feminist battle is not going to be between men and women… it is going to be between women who want a “traditional man” and those who want a collective “government husband.” In both cases, the women are advocating for men to take care of women – with little concern for the man’s wants and needs – one wants a personal slave to serve her & her offspring, while the other wants a slave class to serve women and their offspring in general.

It’s the way human beings are designed. Who cares whether women rule, or if they rule the rulers? The result is the same.

I knew women were sneaky, but I had no idea they were this sneaky.

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Marie
9 years ago

But that wasn’t the point anyway. He doesn’t specify what kids he means there anyway, and a 9year old gets a lot more about other people than a 4year old, so there’s that.

It also has a lot to do with the maturity/ tolerance of a kid (seems to me. I cannot read kid-minds. Or anyone else minds for that matter.) I know two kids, both five, who I baby sit, and the first one gets hissy when I turn the volume down from blaring on tv/ video games because I have a headache, and the second one actually accepts ‘I’m hurty now, but I’ll play with you later’. So, yeah. Varies a lot by the kid.

@Theda Bara

Hi all, I was previously cannonball but I made a grievous mistake in my search for a kitty avatar

Hello Theda Bara, formerly cannonball 😀

@melody

“It’s easy to be considered a misandrist when men are socialized to feel entitled to women and our time. So, if you ignore them, you’re a misandrist. If you insist they leave you alone, you’re a misandrist. If you focus on building healthy female-centered relationships over relationships with men, you’re a misandrist. Misandry is basically, prioritizing your agency, autonomy and fellow women, over men in a society that teaches you that being feminine relies on giving into men’s feelings of entitlement.”
OMG THIS!

And suddenly it seems much more in line with reality…

BigMomma
9 years ago

Me too…we are in the same field of work and I have shuddered at how he speaks about his client group. Part of it is work culture but the rest of it is him. I have challenged him but he has just ridden over the top of me . I have just backed away at this point because its pretty political and has social repercussions.

BigMomma
9 years ago

^^ for hellkell, sorry

pecunium
9 years ago

Argenti: Nemiroff… Ah… memories. technically it’s not “vodka”, but “gorilka” (горлика) which is the Ukranian work for vodka. The birch (of which I have a bottle, though of a different brand (Житомирська/Zitomirska) is called на бруньках(na brunkach, or
buds on). Pleasant. It’s flavored with the young branches, wearing catkin, sort of as beer is hopped.

The other way to make it is with an infusion of birch sap, but I think that’s a little less falvorsome.

Nemiroff is decent (and you don’t want to know how little it costs in UKraine). I have the honey, the cherry, the plain, and some which I’ve infused with cucumber.

LaightTempest
LaightTempest
9 years ago

Don’t mean to derail, but I was wondering if David or any of you guys have stumbled upon this recent gem by Angry Harry: http://www.angryharry.com/reTeaAbuse.htm
This guy’s website is a landmine of crazy; I’m surprised this site doesn’t tackle his material much. And I gotta say, even if Woody Allen were to successfully make a film about the plaguing effects of ‘tea abuse,’ no one would still buy that shit.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
9 years ago

It really says a lot that Angry Harry is often considered the Founding Father of the MRM, doesn’t it? His views on the sexual abuse of children are especially disturbing.

Marie
9 years ago

@Laight Tempest

*makes puppy eyes* The jist of it please?* Too suspicious/ worn out to click link, will probably break my brain.

*feel free to ignore if you don’t want to 🙂

Also, sorry for the nitpicking but not ‘landmine of crazy’. Just seems ableist. Maybe landmine of bigotry? Just guessing from context clues.

cloudiah
9 years ago

All the trigger warnings:

Shorter Angry Harry: A child who is sexually abused by his parents, or a woman who is raped, has had an experience. The experience itself is neutral: neither negative nor positive. Another kind of experience would be growing up with parents who drink tea. The thing that makes experiences traumatic or negative is other people’s reactions to them. If other people tell you that rape, sexual abuse, or tea drinking is a negative experience, then you might experience trauma. Otherwise, everything is hunky dory. The abuse industry is to blame for turning rape and sexual abuse into traumatic experiences. And who really suffers? Men.

cloudiah
9 years ago

To clarify, the men who really suffer aren’t the men who’ve been raped or sexually abused. The real sufferers are the men who have been accused of being abusers by the abuse industry.

Okay, someone needs to post a bunch of kitten/puppy/sloth/guinea pig videos, STAT!

cloudiah
9 years ago

Aw, baby ratties.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
9 years ago

Brain bleach: a Shiba who doesn’t like his new boots

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
9 years ago

GDI, I seem to have shared my whole playlist. Let’s try again: http://youtu.be/KG8njOXLza8

Aaliyah
9 years ago

Angry Harry is a contemptible piece of shit who happened to serve as my introduction to the MRM.

I’m happy that Futrelle doesn’t pay attention to him because he is an extremely awful human being. He doesn’t deserve any serious attention. Not only has he downplayed the severity of abuse and sexual assault, but he also has been apologetic about a man who denotated a bomb at his wife’s house because he was upset about a custody arrangement.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
9 years ago

Well, at least the link is correct…

Aaliyah
9 years ago

Sorry, I’m a bit late. But that’s one of the many reasons I hate Angry Harry. There’s much more I hate about him, too.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Angry Harry is about a shitstain. Nice leaders the MRM has.

Carleyblue
Carleyblue
9 years ago

Yeah, Angry Harry was my first introduction to the men’s movement too (after my IRL friend). I’m pretty sure I spent most of the day I discovered his blog crying. I had no idea such a thing existed, really, before that.

Anyway, time to forget about him.

That desert rain frog is amazing.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
9 years ago

@Carleyblue I didn’t mean to post the whole thing at once, but yeah, that’s my Manboobz Brain Bleach playlist.

Hershele Ostropoler
9 years ago

I’ve been wondering about the feasibility of something that is to maple syrup what mead is to honey.

Anyone want to give me some yeast, a rig, and about $5,000 worth of maple syrup?

daintydougal
9 years ago

Re: The whiskey/whisky debate, I always thought whisky was proper (Irish etc) and whiskey was everything else (Scottish etc). I guess in America as they drink ‘Scotch’ it would be whiskey.*

*My grandad was Scottish therefore its literally impossible for me to be offensive about that horrible wasteland (Scotland) BECAUSE SCIENCE.

daintydougal
9 years ago

EXCEPT I GOT IT BACKWARDS. Whiskey=Ireland Whisky=Scotland. *That sound you hear is my (already limited) credibility falling down around my ears.*
Can’t decide if too much cider or not enough..?

respectsexwork
9 years ago

Reblogged this on respectsexwork and commented:
I laughed, I cried, holy shit are people morons. (Sorry that does’t rhyme.)

LaightTempest
LaightTempest
9 years ago

@ Marie I apologize for that saying. I describe a lot of things (both negative and positive) as “crazy,” to the point where I’m not really aware of it. I’ll control it.
@ cloudiah Now that I’m rereading it (don’t ask why, I don’t want to know either), he does have a point about the 9/11 rememberance run by the media. Nothing wrong with keeping the memory alive, but I can imagine the various footage of firefighters wading through the rubble for victims can be quite a trigger. Other than that, 1) “abuse propaganda” (which extracts their information from, y’know, REAL EXPERIENCES AND TESTIMONIES) are just tricking you to

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