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Argumentum ad Kittypicturem: A Rebuttal

Manosphere doofuses have a wide assortment of excuses for dismissing this blog without actually having to deal with anything I’ve ever actually said.  There’s the old “you’re a misandrist bigot so I don’t have to read anything of yours to know what you think” argument; no evidence of the alleged misandry is ever given. There’s the old “you call yourself Man Boobz and that’s a silly name so I can pretend that nothing you say counts” excuse; actually, I call you guys the “man boobz,” but never mind. Then there’s the old “he’s fat” chestnut. (See the next-to-last pic here.)

My favorite excuse, though, is a little logical fallacy you might call “argumentum ad kittypicturem.” That is, the claim that I can’t be taken seriously because sometimes I post pictures of adorable kitties. I’m not sure why these pictures confuse and infuriate misogynists to the extent that they do, but I’m sort of happy this is the case, because every time I run across it, it gives me an excuse to POST MORE KITTY PICTURES.

This time the kitty picture hater is the lying liar Dalrock, whom we’ve met several times before—most recently when he complained about women taking jobs from men by “playing career woman much the way that Marie Antoinette played peasant and Zoolander’s character played coal miner.”

In a post with the ponderous yet somehow also very silly title “We need worthy adversaries,” Dalrock dismisses my blog as one of the unworthy ones, the only example of said unworthiness being this post I made featuring pictures of several adorable  kittens.

Here is my rebuttal:

Yes, that’s a hedgehog. Let’s see how they deal with THAT!

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Nova
Nova
9 years ago

Even if you’re obviously disabled, with mountains of paperwork to back it up, there still isn’t much out there, as far as a safety net goes. I was diagnosed with lymphoma in March and… not sick enough for SSI or SSDI. I made too much money last year for any kind of state aid and there are few charities that help people with my diagnosis.

Chemo is enough of a bitch that I’ve had to choose between treating cancer and being able to work. I’ve chosen to keep a roof over my head and food on the table, with the understanding that if I don’t figure something out pretty quick, I have about a year left. Hopefully, I can scrape up enough money every month to hire someone to drive me to work or I can expat and live with my uncle, where there’s free medical care and a pension for people with cancer.

Nobody should have to make these choices.

David K, Meller
David K, Meller
9 years ago

“Let’s see how they deal with THAT…”

Cute little feller! Of course, it is a good thing that you were wearing gloves. Hedgehog quills aren’t as sharp as porcupine quills, but they can be nasty just the same.

I suppose that hedgehogs need holding and petting too.

Like many MRAs, I LIKE cute little animals. I only wish that more contemporary women shared their lovable charicteristics…playful, affectionate, pettable, cute, and attentive, among others.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
9 years ago

I’m torn between “I know countless women I could describe like that (if I didn’t bother mentioning that they’re fun to talk to)” and a sense of disquiet that you seem to be reducing women to a similar status to pets.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

Nova — You’re right that no one should have to make these decisions, but still, I’m sorry you’re having to, and wish you the best with your chemo.

DKM // MorkaisChosen — Some people do have all those qualities, even willingly acting like animals (eg furries) but generally not with people who insist that’s all they are >.< And no one who actually likes animals would ever acquire a reputation for saying a cat should be killed for scratching, you're a big declawing fan probably huh? (to the actual animal lovers annoyed by the scratching of cats, cardboard and duct tape the things they scratch, it'll protect your couch)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

eep, oops, Morkais if it isn’t clear the you there is DKM, ditto the reputation

lauralot89
9 years ago

My cat is soft, cute, playful, affectionate, pettable and yet he still loves clawing and biting anything that moves. He also doesn’t like creepy doll fetishists that laugh at the thought of women getting cancer and say murder victims must have brought it on themselves. Funny how that works.

Howard Bannister
9 years ago

Like many MRAs, I LIKE cute little animals. I only wish that more contemporary women shared their lovable charicteristics…playful, affectionate, pettable, cute, and attentive, among others.

….I….

I just…

SO… MUCH…. WRONG…

Okay, firstly? Here, right here in this blog, so many of you awesome regular posters (who I think are more-or-less evenly split between men and women) have been being playful and affectionate on this thread, attentive, even.

Pettable?

That’s gross, dude. Gross.

LBT
LBT
9 years ago

RE: Nova

I have immense sympathy for you. And I’m not nearly as sick as you are.

In my case, thankfully it seems I can at least hold my own against this shit, and if things go truly to pot, I can move back South and move in with my aunt. (Though I’ll lose my health insurance, my out-of-closetness, and local friends.) Hopefully this doesn’t happen.

At this point, I’m not thinking about the future. I’m just focusing on keeping on.

RE: Meller

Well, I wish you were less of a dick, so there ya go.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

“Pettable?

That’s gross, dude. Gross.”

Eh, not gross in general, just a bit TMI? Fetishes, people have them. (Gross from DKM, but not in general)

Howard Bannister
9 years ago

Eh, not gross in general, just a bit TMI? Fetishes, people have them. (Gross from DKM, but not in general)

Actually, if I read this as a fetish and less as a general request that women’s bodies be permanently public property, it’s a lot less icky. In fact, if we read it that way it’s a slightly humanizing touch on the already-pretty-horrifying-kitten-hating DKM.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

I guess it kind of would humanize him some, but I really only want to know the fetishes of people I might be indulging those for, or other cases of specifically seeking fetish related info, neither of which will apply to DKM, ever.

In DKM context it probably does mean women as public property, which is gross, but it isn’t gross in general until it becomes “dude! TMI!!”

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

…playful, affectionate, pettable, cute, and attentive, among others.

…among others.

“Others” meaning defenseless, lacking human intellect, unable to read or speak, having only what rights you choose to give them, having no legal recourse when abused, and so on in that fashion.

I hardly need say it, but Meller, you’re pitiful, and you disgust me.

Howard Bannister
9 years ago

In DKM context it probably does mean women as public property, which is gross, but it isn’t gross in general until it becomes “dude! TMI!!”

You’re absolutely right; when it comes to fetishes, it’s not okay to other and shame and go ‘ewww, icky.’

But always appropriate to say that to folks who want to make women’s bodies public property. (which seems to be an integral part of the MRM…)

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

Yeah, the problem with Meller is not that he has a fetish for zoomorphic slave girls. The problem is he’s a massive creep who earnestly desires to make his personal kink the law of the land.

David K, Meller
David K, Meller
9 years ago

There is no fetish for “zoomorphic” slave girls (or any other kind of slave girls, for that matter) I only cite points where different forms of life–women and pretty kitties, being good examples–are admittedly different, and other points where a certain similarity may be observed, at least in ideal and fantasy.

“Kitten hating ???” Nowhere did I suggest that a friendly, playful, and harmless kitten be killed! I only suggested doing away with them if, and only if, they posed a direct danger to their owners, guests, or other pets. If your kitten doesn’t,and it probably doesn’t, than let them play to their hearts content,claws and all!

No, I DON’T favor declawing cats, except as a final last resort cited above! Next case…

David K, Meller
David K, Meller
9 years ago

I don’t want to make my personal preferences here, or anywhere, the :law of the land”. ALL of ;my posts here show that without the disruptive and destructive influence of feminism and runaway gender-egalitarianism, women would be far more able to, and inclined to, please the significant man in their lives without the omnipresent feminoid background noise of alleged “exploitation”, “rape”, “discrimination”, :”abuse’ and other code words for their ongoing war-of-the-sexes which does so much to hurt everybody, male and female alike, for the benefit of a small, exclusive, and vicious political/media/ academic elite. They PROFIT from every hint of conflict between men and women, just as they profit enormously from all other political religious/ “racial” conflict in the larger society!

Replace such code words with counterparts suggesting love, harmony, compatibility,gender specificity–men being men and women (G-d bless ’em) being women–happiness, etc. and those bitter and hateful conflict-generating freaks (many, if not most of whom, are probably lezzies anyhow, and know nothing about how normal heterosexual relagtionships work) would have nothing to do, and would end up in gutters with little tin cups!

Dysfunctionality in love and male/female relationships? Cure the DISEASE, not merely the symptoms. Repudiate feminism and gender egalitarianism now. Harmony, love, and compatibility, NOT “equality” should be the goals for us to strive for!

Cliff Pervocracy
9 years ago

Nowhere did I suggest that a friendly, playful, and harmless kitten be killed! I only suggested doing away with them

yo.

Snowy
Snowy
9 years ago

Oh look, it’s DKM skulking around trying to get he last word on a week old thread again.

the omnipresent feminoid background noise of alleged “exploitation”, “rape”, “discrimination”, :”abuse’ and other code words for their ongoing war-of-the-sexes which does so much to hurt everybody

Replace such code words with counterparts suggesting love, harmony, compatibility,gender specificity–men being men and women (G-d bless ‘em) being women–happiness, etc.

WAR IS PEACE! FREEDOM IS SLAVERY! IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!

Ithiliana
9 years ago

DKM, DKM, DKM, sliming your way in again, eh? And always on an old thread. Aren’t you realizing those tactics do not fucking work?

Dysfunctionality in love and male/female relationships? Cure the DISEASE, not merely the symptoms. Repudiate feminism and gender egalitarianism now. Harmony, love, and compatibility, NOT “equality” should be the goals for us to strive for!

And in your universe, when the man thinks that the woman is not achieving those goals, it’s fine to beat them and kill them.

But ONLY because they won’t live up to the fine egalitarian ideals of asshats like YOU who is clearly the exemplar for ALL MEN: here, as always, is the post that got you banned the last time (although I admit to having been fairly busy the last month so I may have missed a new banning).

You guys really don’t get it, do you: YOUR WORDS ARE THERE TO READ. You can deny all you want, but you typed ’em.

You consistently say that if cats or women or other pets (and yes, that’s how you line ’em up), they should be punished, and put down, if all else fails. The men who kill women are driven to it. By.the.women.

Your words. Live with them:

http://manboobz.com/2012/02/09/alcuin-and-out-or-the-kkk-with-tits/comment-page-8/#comment-123827
Ithiliana–February 12, 2012 @2:31pm

“graduate student “murdered” by ex-husband”

Take post cited above. Could woman who talks like that (over the ‘net) have such an unpleasant, unfeminine, and just plain horrid personality that she could say something that MAY provoke an unpleasant response from a nearby man who may already be troubled about something else. Look at all of the cases you read about where a murder or vicious assault or rape was committed by a man whose entire life was coming apart, and the very person—his wife–whom he was relying upon to keep what was left of his sanity was turning on him…

Did graduate student take her “how to handle men” or something like that from YOU?

I was explaining that a man who loved his nearest and dearest would do anything to avoid the spousal abuse so often cited on feminuttery websites and blogs like this, because it wouldn’t get him what he wanted! I would rather be kind, gentle, and loving to a woman than beat,rape, or kill her, and so would most men, for obvious reasons!

Gee, Ithiliana, for an intelligent woman, you sure have a lot of trouble understanding ordinary common sense, don’t you?

arakeala
arakeala
9 years ago

Off topic comment: as I was looking through this post at work and enjoying the kitty pictures, I was suddenly address by a colleague asking if by any chance I was looking for a cat.
I should probably be better at reading the kitty-warnings in the titles!

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