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MRA: Women hate engineering because it’s too hard and they’d rather mooch off their husbands.

Computer Engineer Barbie is sick of this bullshit.

Ever wonder why there are so few women engineers? Well, wonder no more, because carchamp1 over on the Men’s Rights subreddit has the answer! It’s apparently his wife’s fault, or something. In a comment with two dozen upvotes at last count, he explains:

I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That’s four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn’t want to work anymore so she could be a “stay-at-home-mom”. When I urged her to work she said if I didn’t like it she would take our kid and I could leave.

Women don’t want to be engineers that’s why there are so few. It’s too hard. It’s a lot easier doing the “hardest job in the world”, you know, be a mom and living off your husband.

End of story.

Yeah, it’s not like there might be any other reasons beyond laziness and ingratitude, or anything.

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Wetherby
Wetherby
14 years ago

I am a freelance writer, which essentially means that I can do what I want when I want, provided that I hit all my deadlines on time.

Oh, and bring in enough money to convince my wife that freelance writing is a viable career.

John
John
14 years ago

I hope Ozy doesn’t mind everyone in the world “misgendering zir”, because no one except like 5 people on the internet do that shit.

John
John
14 years ago

HA HA!!!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
14 years ago

Actually you know, we should do the same thing with MRAL that we do with NWO. He seems so unhappy, and that’s a shame for someone so young. Does he have any hobbies other than posting angry comments on feminist blogs and swimming?

I like swimming too, MRAL. Used to compete, in fact – got that from my Dad, who taught me to swim when I was not quite 3. I also really love music. In fact, I just downloaded iTunes to my new PC and it’s been indexing for over half an hour so far. I think I have about half a terabyte of music.

What do you love, MRAL? Isn’t there something you can do that you’d derive more pleasure from than you do from posting silly, angry rants here and being mocked by everyone?

KathleenB
KathleenB
14 years ago

Cassandra: I grew up between Lake Michigan and a smaller lake (the smaller one was literally at the end of my street, drive too far and you’d be in the drink). I couldn’t quite swim before I could walk, and my technique sucks, but I think I spent half my early life in and around the water.

Other things I like:
Reading
Writing
Making pretty things with yarn and thread (and sometimes beads and wire)
Learning new things
Hanging around with MrB
Watching Doctor Who with NephewB
Gaming with my friends
Baking delicious things

KathleenB
KathleenB
14 years ago

John: Just throwing random comments to the peanut gallery is kind of annoying. If you’re addressing something someone said, please either quote it or do what I did with your name.

John
John
14 years ago

I like to do a lot of stuff, ok, no one needs to insinuate otherwise. I like to read books and Pynchon is my favorite author. I am a drummer and I used to be in a band until I got kicked out.

Is that enough for eh H cubeds? I spend less time on here er than NWO or DKM.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
14 years ago

My old swim coach used to joke that I was the only person she’d ever met who could swim faster than they could run. My Mum used to call me the waterbaby, and complain that I was going to develop gills. I love water in almost any form.

Other things I love – reading, writing, talking to people about mutual interests, languages, cuddling people I love, cuddling cats, giant happy dogs, cooking delicious spicy things, meeting new people, travelling, learning things, my friends, luxurious fabrics, beautiful clothes, beautiful people, the sound of rain pattering on the windows, the way my cat purrs at me sometimes when I’m not even touching her, just talking to her.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
14 years ago

ok, Half of that shit is looking at shit. Most shit is ugly so i’ll pass.

John
John
14 years ago

ok, Half of that shit is looking at shit. Most shit is ugly so i’ll pass.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
14 years ago

Oh, I also love interviewing people, which is cool since I sometimes get paid to do it. I love the process of persuading someone to trust you and open up to you, figuring out what works for each individual in terms of putting them at ease and catching their interest, seeing how excited people get when you give them the opportunity to talk about things that they love. Basically I love conversation, and an interview is just a slightly more structured conversation with a clear purpose in mind.

Wetherby
Wetherby
14 years ago

Mind you, it gets a lot less fun if you’re interviewing someone on stage in front of a live audience, whose native language isn’t English, and who seems determined to answer in monosyllables.

But that’s only happened to me once. Thankfully.

Wetherby
Wetherby
14 years ago

(The interviewee’s native language wasn’t English. I’m assuming the audience’s mostly was.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
14 years ago

I really prefer interviews where there’s no one else in the room. It’s easier to get people to talk honestly that way. I hate interviews where PR people are hovering.

I once interviewed someone with their yakuza minder sitting there overseeing the whole thing. Poor guy I was interviewing looked terrified. Now that was a unique experience.

KathleenB
KathleenB
14 years ago

MRAL: What shit are you referring to? (seriously, I have no clue what you’re on about.)

KathleenB
KathleenB
14 years ago

Cassandra” Yeah, I can see where that would be intimidating. For both of you!

ozymandias42
14 years ago

MRAL, could you sort out whether your name is John or not? Thank you.

I am puzzled why none of the trolls seem to have worked out that Darksidecat is also a zie creature, Why am I always the one whom they make fun of for it?

Also, excellent “your gender is marginalized, therefore it doesn’t exist” logic there, sir.

ozymandias42
14 years ago

Also, I’m pleased to discover my idea spreading! 🙂

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
14 years ago

I’m not sure whether to find it funny or sad that apparently neither MRAL or his alternate personality John actually do have anything that they love. That must really suck.

Wetherby
Wetherby
14 years ago

Finnish doesn’t have gender-specific pronouns – i.e. broadly equivalent to referring to everything as ‘it’, but drawing a distinction between animate (‘hän’) and inanimate (‘se’).

On the other hand, many other European languages are so gender-specific that you can even say things like “female friends” (‘amiche’) in Italian without drawing attention to their gender in a way that you’d have to in English and presumably Finnish. “Male friends” and “friends of either sex” are ‘amici’.

John
John
14 years ago

I’m just posting as John because Fucktrelle forgot to put it on moderation. My name is not John.

Ami Angelwings
14 years ago

I think if MRAL ever got anything that would fulfill the quantitative things that he’s laid out of what would make him happy, he’d self-sabotage it, because I think being bitter and angry is sort of comforting for him in the state he’s in right now : It’s not really not having a girlfriend, not having status, not having a good job, or a better job, or more money that’s making him unhappy, those are just things he’s hoping will solve the underlying issues he seems to struggle with >_> If he made 50k, he’d say he’d need to make 70, then 80, then 100, etc… if he got a girlfriend, he’d want a “better” one… (and yes MRAL, I’m hoping you read this xD I’ve been there… and I’m honest about what I said before, if you need somebody to talk to privately and who won’t share it with nebody, you can PM me on the forum… I’m fine w/ being a punching bag/rant thing for you and maybe having somebody you can talk to might help? :3 Not that I expect you to trust me since I’m pretty sure I’m the one here you think is the worst and meanest xD But I’m honest about the offer… you alrdy know I work in social services and I won’t betray your trust. Plus I’ve suffered from serious depression, self-hatred, etc too. I’ve been where you are (in some ways I still am). )

Not that that excuses any of the abuse he keeps trying to heap onto others >_> (like trying to mean to Ozy there) I mean even if it’s just a temper tantrum, it’s still him trying to be (and maybe being) hurtful to ppl and being an asshole. >_>

Ami Angelwings
14 years ago

@Ozymandias because they initially started off knowing you as female and prolly having seen your pictures, and in their minds they can’t STOP thinking of you as female (or maybe they don’t want to, if they’re attracted to you xD ) and so you’re the one who they’re projecting all their frustration and confusion on >_>

I also think they have a hard time NOT reading you as female b/c you fit their ideas of how girls should talk or speak or w/e… it’s kinda the same issue NWO and others have with me, that no matter their transphobia, they gendered me female originally and can’t stop doing it… and why they have such a huge big deal w/ me in particular being trans xD

Wetherby
Wetherby
14 years ago

Every time I think MRAL is a write-off, I get a flashback to what I was like at 19, and how I might well have come across if I’d had the option of ranting anonymously online.

I certainly wouldn’t have been a hate-filled misogynist (my own railings against the unfairness of the world weren’t gendered at all), but I can’t in all honesty pretend that I wouldn’t have amply qualified for the “asshole” part. And I seem to have turned out OK.

Ami Angelwings
14 years ago

I spend less time on here er than NWO or DKM.

Are you sure? xD