Ever wonder why there are so few women engineers? Well, wonder no more, because carchamp1 over on the Men’s Rights subreddit has the answer! It’s apparently his wife’s fault, or something. In a comment with two dozen upvotes at last count, he explains:
I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That’s four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn’t want to work anymore so she could be a “stay-at-home-mom”. When I urged her to work she said if I didn’t like it she would take our kid and I could leave.
Women don’t want to be engineers that’s why there are so few. It’s too hard. It’s a lot easier doing the “hardest job in the world”, you know, be a mom and living off your husband.
End of story.
Yeah, it’s not like there might be any other reasons beyond laziness and ingratitude, or anything.
I did a Masters in Comp. Sci. and never had to pull an all-nighter… well, outside of staying all-night playing “one more turn” of Civilization, but that doesn’t count.
I think whether one pulls all-nighters depends on the difficulty of one’s program and one’s time management skills, personally.
Personally, I think that it depends on if you’re challenging yourself or taking useless shit like Women’s Studies (ie, stuff not important enough to be in real history classes). I fucking despise Women’s Studies. It’s misandric and politically correct 2 tha core.
LOL. Women have better time management skills than men – FUCK, PRINCESS, GASHES.
I’m just saying, it seems to me this whole “Engineering is HARD guyz” thing is just very self-serving. The teachers at my university all participated in the practice I called “Take It Easy Friday”: since 90% of students go home on Friday nights, they partied on the Thursday, and they were hangover on Friday mornings so it was tacitly accepted that any class on Friday morning would have to be light on content… and that’s even from teachers that were otherwise hard asses, like my Operating Systems teacher. I coasted through classes. Now, admitedly, I do have a high IQ… 😉 j/k
You’ve got these people who have an uncanny knack understanding computers and can’t think their way out of a paper bag when it comes to figuring out people, and inexplicably their worldview is that computers are for intelligent people and social skills are worthless? How convenient.
MRAL: It might be that you haven’t properly analysed the needs of your classes and well managed your time; while the women you decry are just better at that sort of thing than you are and so don’t need to cram to pass.
Hey, maybe if MRAL spent more time writing papers and less time posting profanity-filled rants here he would be able to get some sleep.
Ya know, the world could really use more women like that.
@MRAL
Double all-nighter? ooooh you’re so awesome MRAL!! Not. I stayed up 3 nights in a row to finish my final project in college, on top of a bunch of other all-nighters I and many other male and female classmates pulled during the year.
You aren’t as special or badass as you think you are MRAL, you arrogant little asswipe.
hell I still pull all-nighters even now to finish freelance projects, and I still manage to post on Manboobz without the incoherent rants filled with profanity XD
Me too, Quackers! Apparently I have a dark sense of humor, because I mostly find out resident trolls absolutely hilarious.
But seriously, MRAL – I’m old enough to be your mom and I can still pull all-nighters without whining about it. Drink some coffee or something.
A bunch of ARROGANT PRIVILEGD WOMEN, I hope you enjoy talking about your WYMYN’S STUDIES SHIT you ARROGANT FUCKS
BTW, Pecunium, I’m smart and Have gret time management skills. BUT, to get TTOP GRADES, and thus be better than all the goddamn fucks in this school, i need to do this shit. If it was all women and their humanities soft idiocy, that would be no problem, but there are other MEN here, INTELLIGENT MEN that do sckience and i must compete with them.
For all nighters in college, Jolt cola and No doz by the fistful! ( I’m not sure how I still have a stomach lining after doing that as often as I did)
How many degrees in engineering do you have, MRAL?
No doz! I’d forgotten about that. I used to get friends in the US to send it to me in London until I discovered that it was more efficient to just take speed.
(Waits for troll pearl clutching to commence.)
MRAL, come on. You’re making a complete ass of yourself. Get some sleep, even if it’s only two or three hours, and then get back to the books.
@Cassandra
I look at them with a mix of pity, disgust and a desire to live on a planet where such hideous examples of people do not exist. Although some amusement come from their antics or I probably wouldn’t come here as often 😛
Energy drinks might be better. That’s what I and my peers would often use. They cause quite a crash though.
7 am classes also required a giant coffee with No Doz accompaniment. I was, and am, afraid of speed, I am addicted enough to caffeine, I am certain I would become dependent on any stimulant I tried.
It took me years to get down to one maintenance dose of caffeine per day.
Oddly enough I seem to find uppers completely non-addictive – they work great on me, but it’s easy to stop taking them. I guess I just don’t have an addictive personality – wasn’t hard for me to quit smoking either.
It’s not as if I’ve never pulled all-nighters. Times when I had stories on deadline, and a paper to put to bed, and assignments to write for other reporters, and copy to edit, and heads and cutlines to write.
Then there were the 60 hour weeks I put in for three months as a machinist (because the owners had accepted more orders than we had the ability to do, on the machines available)
Or the serial all-nighters in the army, when it was cold, and wet and it wasn’t studying for a math test, but hauling ourselves through the woods at Ft. Lewis looking for ambushes, or setting them, or patrolling, doing land-nav, planning/making assaults on fortified positions.
Or the convoys, and other operations in Iraq (where the down time was spent setting up tents, or maintaining vehicles, or burning shit; no internet, no cable, no phones), and sleeping outdoors.
Then there were the nights on foal-watch, tending sick foals, or helping to birth mules. There’ve been three occasions I’ve pulled all-nighters for human births, and one I just did for a kidney stone.
I’ve also been up all night tending colicky babies.
So yeah, the life of an engineering student seems really arduous to me, what with all the things outside his control that made staying up for three days straight such a trial.
Now acid, that scares the shit out of me. My imagination is vivid enough already, thanks.
Speaking of trolls, where’s Meller? You’d think he’d have dropped in to tell us about how naturally unsuited ladies are to engineering by now. Maybe he got a new doll or something.
Hey, I spent an afternoon in the New York Goddamn Library and I know as much about Wimminz Studies as the average wimminz studies major!
Yeeeah… based on, I dunno, everything you’ve ever posted, I kind of doubt that. (For starters, I haven’t seen you spell “women” correctly even once.)
In fact, I was going to suggest that you consider taking a women’s studies class. I never took anything in that department myself, but it might help you. I’m being completely serious here. I remember that in the past you’ve made comments sympathetic to the problems of people of color (even women of color!) because you’d read some books on the subject; reading up on gender issues could have a similar effect.
What’s your major, by the way?
Back in college, I used to pull all-nighters working on English papers while messaging with my friend the cognitive science major while she built a fire-fighting robot in the computer lab. Then, at dawn, we’d go out to the Acropolis Diner for breakfast. Good times.