Ever wonder why there are so few women engineers? Well, wonder no more, because carchamp1 over on the Men’s Rights subreddit has the answer! It’s apparently his wife’s fault, or something. In a comment with two dozen upvotes at last count, he explains:
I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That’s four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn’t want to work anymore so she could be a “stay-at-home-mom”. When I urged her to work she said if I didn’t like it she would take our kid and I could leave.
Women don’t want to be engineers that’s why there are so few. It’s too hard. It’s a lot easier doing the “hardest job in the world”, you know, be a mom and living off your husband.
End of story.
Yeah, it’s not like there might be any other reasons beyond laziness and ingratitude, or anything.
I wonder: did her decision to become a stay-at-home mom have something to do with becoming a mom?
My boyfriend is an engineer and he doesn’t make enough to pay for a nanny for all the hours he works. Maybe she was in a similar situation.
Or fuck, maybe she could have afforded a nanny but thought her husband would have her back. It doesn’t have to be an economic necessity. I knew a guy who quit his job to pursue a home business and his wife had his back while he worked on that, although she’s well aware it may never be profitable. Not every marriage is a matter of “you may live in my house but by God you better pay your way!” Some people are actually willing to support each other.
I do think that when CERTAIN (not all) wimminz get older, they might realize what little skills they have. Should have majored in engineering or MATH or SCIENCE, amirite? Not Wymyn’s Studies. Hey, I spent an afternoon in the New York Goddamn Library and I know as much about Wimminz Studies as the average wimminz studies major! bet they aren’t ogulling DOUBLE ALL NIGHTERS MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!
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Please, please let him not have been one of the ones complaining about women stealing men’s jobs.
Katz – Women are stealing men’s jobs because–as demonstrated by the fact that they sometimes leave their jobs–they aren’t competent to have those jobs. However, women still shouldn’t expect men to support them.
The correct answer is for women to, uh… uh… LOOK OVER THERE!
*hides*
Math class is tough!
“Women are stealing men’s jobs because–as demonstrated by the fact that they sometimes leave their jobs–they aren’t competent to have those jobs. However, women still shouldn’t expect men to support them.”
No, no, Holly! They should just go and be a whore in a bro–I mean, House of Entertainment!
Anecdote fun time! My best friend? Nuclear engineer. Currently pregnant with her first child. Her husband stays at home. Both of her sisters? Involved in the nuclear program in the Navy before getting out. One is still in the nuclear engineering biz. My best friend loves her job to pieces, and also is happy to support her hubs, because staying home makes him happy. But then, they are a normal, functioning couple.
Because when one woman does something, it means ALL women do the EXACT SAME THING.
LOGIC!
I have a friend who’s studying computer science (not quite engineering, but similar amounts of math and dickholery towards women) and, while virtually guaranteed a job at certain companies that aren’t assholes, being a woman in the compsci department on campus means she gets the make-work, no credit, and never listened to in class/in projects.
Ahh, how nice boys can be when they play with numbers and forget social interaction (I refuse to admit that these kind of people are grown up enough to be called anything but boys)
And from my engineer mom, and her two consecutive engineer husbands, I offer this hearty “fuck you also!”
What time she took off, and what career sacrifices she and my stepdad made, we’re necessary for the family. And you can bite my well-raised ass.
So they’re simultaneously mocking women who claim that pervasive sexism prevents them from achieving satisfying careers as engineers….while also being incredibly sexist in arguing that women are not intelligent enough to become engineers.
What.
My dad quit work to sail while my mom continued working!
Therefore, all men do this!
LOGIC.
Were, gosh darn it. Were.
I might resent my father somewhat for not doing any of the child-rearing or cooking or cleaning or anything, but at least when my mom was doing all of that and holding down a full-time job and became entirely exhausted, he understood when she took a year off and wasn’t a jerk about it.
I wonder if this dude has told his wife what a leech he thinks she is. Somehow I doubt his story went down the way he said it did.
Yeah, I doubt that too. I will say this: If it did go down the way he said, with him trying to bring up the topic and her immediately threatening divorce, I think that sucks. In fact, if he hadn’t then used that situation as a way to complain about how all women in general are unfit for engineering positions, I’d feel a little bad for him.
However, I can’t imagine that actually playing out in a relationship between humans. Unless there’s some awful backstory that he’s left out.
Oh yeah, my sister is an engineer. And a wife and mom.
You know if he objected so much he could stay home with his damn kid.
MRAL, you rock the fuck on with your “wimminz studies” and get out of them what you will. Since this is something that you made up with a totally-your-own made up word, I am sure you will soon be an expert! Not that you aren’t already in your own mind. I happen to have an actual engineering degree from a little known school called Johns Hopkins, so I have a bit more experience with the things women in engineering have to put up with than a 19-year-old lifeguard/student, but I’m sure you’re totally right and I’m wrong, because you totally have a penis and I don’t! Go you and your world-conquering or whatever.
LOTS OF WOMEN HAVE ENGINEERING DEGREES. IN ADDITION TO DEGREES IN MATH AND SCIENCE.
Those men’s rights redditors are so annoying. They love to bash stay at home moms, but I’ve also seen them bash moms who put their children in daycare while they work full time outside the home. In MRA Land, a mother can either be an evil leech who stays home with the kids or an evil career woman who neglects her kids and steals men’s jobs. There are no options that aren’t evil for moms. Maybe carchamp1 could offer to stay home with the kids himself if he thinks it’s so easy. I bet he would consider housework and caring for an infant to be lowly “women’s work”, though.
I’m a sociology major focusing on gender and I’ve pulled triple all nighters. (“All nighter” is here defined as “less than three hours’ sleep per night.”) Ten-page papers don’t write themselves, you know.
Also, I have a female friend who’s in biochem and has occasionally pulled so many all-nighters that she lost her ability to sleep.
Computer Engineer Barbie?! Why’d they have to pick the most boring kind of engineering for Barbie? They should make a Mining Engineer Barbie; she comes with a stick of dynamite. Playing with Barbie will be considered bad ass… especially if one hasn’t died.
YEAH RIGHT!!!! With all u guys spending so much goddamn time her during finals week, u clearly have nothing to do. Look at me. I am going to go and rule the world with all my studyigjn.
I have it on good from an engineering acquaintance that in fact, having a vagina unofficially entitles to to pretty much any job, a WAY better salary and basically you become unfire-able. FUcking privileged women.
“I do think that when CERTAIN (not all) wimminz get older, they might realize what little skills they have. Should have majored in engineering or MATH or SCIENCE, amirite? Not Wymyn’s Studies. Hey, I spent an afternoon in the New York Goddamn Library and I know as much about Wimminz Studies as the average wimminz studies major! bet they aren’t ogulling DOUBLE ALL NIGHTERS MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!
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Is that the number of flecks of spittle that hit the monitor as you were typing, or the number of BITCH FUCK ALPHA GASHES who gravely insulted you today by not offering to suck your cock when you stood next to them in the elevator?
Nobody gets to decide what job is ‘too hard’ for me, except me. carchamp1 can kiss my arse. And the arse of every other woman for whom he has tried to make decisions that are not his to make. This most likely includes his wife.