
Ever wonder why there are so few women engineers? Well, wonder no more, because carchamp1 over on the Men’s Rights subreddit has the answer! It’s apparently his wife’s fault, or something. In a comment with two dozen upvotes at last count, he explains:
I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That’s four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn’t want to work anymore so she could be a “stay-at-home-mom”. When I urged her to work she said if I didn’t like it she would take our kid and I could leave.
Women don’t want to be engineers that’s why there are so few. It’s too hard. It’s a lot easier doing the “hardest job in the world”, you know, be a mom and living off your husband.
End of story.
Yeah, it’s not like there might be any other reasons beyond laziness and ingratitude, or anything.


Also, if you refused my sandwich I would be offended and question my sandwich making skills. Why don’t you like my sandwich Mr. Sexbot??? Is there anything I can do to make you like tuna sandwiches?
See? Annoying.
Oddly enough, nobody is suggesting that asking someone out once is sexual harrassment.
I suspect though that if I were asked out once by 50 individuals one after the other based entirely on my being the only woman around, I’d feel somewhat harrassed.
Oddly enough, nobody is suggesting that asking someone out once is sexual harrassment.
Admittedly, it depends a little on the manner of asking. “Hi, I was wondering if you’d like to get coffee with me sometime?” = not harassment. “Hey, hot tits, wanna come back to my place and suck my dick?” = harassment, even if you only say it once.
That’s true. I guess I assumed that the woman who was originally quoted would have called it something other than ‘being asked out’ if this were the way it was put – although I guess technically it is. Ew.
God f’n dammit, I was busy all day with mom stuff and helping the real world libertarians cover the NDAA issues, and I f’n missed Meller and SUPPRESSED SCIENCE!
Meller, can we please cover these issues in our debate, if you agree to have one? Please? 🙂
Also, Meller, are you going to tell me what the manhating statements were, or explain why you told me you didn’t think I’d provoked my abuse (though other woman could have!), but then quoted me as an example of something that could drive a man (GENTLE AS A LAMB!) to violence? Seriously.
Another possible occasion when asking someone out a single time would count as harassment is if you have power over them and make them feel like a refusal might negatively impact their life. A supervisor in a workplace could do that, or a professor to a student.
And even if it’s not harassment in a prosecutable sense, it can still be obnoxious.
Incidentally, having HDTV in 1928 would have rocked because it would be just in time for the first Academy Awards.
Regards the matter of technological innovation:
I graduated high school in 1999, during the third season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The season finale for that season was centered around the graduation of Buffy et al from high school, and the last part (of the two-part episode with requisite cliffhanger) was scheduled the night before my last final of high school, in the week that I myself would graduate.
Naturally, at the appointed hour, I was primed to view the second part of aforementioned cliffhanger. I did not view this. What I viewed instead was a notice to the effect that the airing of the episode in question had been indefinitely postponed “in light of recent events”. A demon ate the student body, you see. They were concerned about copycats.
So I got on the Internet to see what was known about how long the delay would be and perchance if a script or something had been leaked. What I found was that the episode had been cancelled in the US at the last minute, after its airing in Canada. This would have been of little to no consequence just a few years earlier, as there was little means of getting a TV show from airing in Canada to eyeballs in the US — anime fan communities were still largely operating via VHS tape trading, for instance.
Not so this time, as I discovered to my surprise. The thing was online. It was in Real format, divided into seven parts, and was so heavily compressed that it looked and sounded like underwater synchronized swimming Buffy. It took all night and part of the next day to download. I did it anyway. I marveled. I’d grown up in a time when computers that could record and play realistic (although crappy by modern standards) audio recordings were a Big Deal, and here I was watching an entire 45-minute recording of an hour slot television program, audio and video both, that some random person in Canada had just gone and made with their computer and then put on the Internet.
Three years later, I could download then-current episodes of Buffy, in IIRC what was DVD-level quality, in about two hours.
A couple years ago, if it struck my fancy to watch the very episode of Buffy that constituted an iconic moment in technology for me, I could begin watching that episode on my computer, completely legitimately and in higher quality than I would have seen it at the time had it been broadcast normally, within five minutes of forming the impulse. For free.
Today, I can probably do the same on my phone. Which is understandable, because my phone is more powerful than the computer I watched the original episode on and has significantly better Internet access.
And in a sense that’s really nothing compared to the fact that my grandmother is making contact with former students on a ubiquitous Web-based service that few people could have even thought to include in the freaky glass dome on head future when she retired from teaching.
Too bad about that lack of technological development, eh?
My first computer had 1k of RAM. 30 years later, this one has 4G, which was decent two years ago when I built it and is considered barely enough these days.
Nah, technology’s not advancing anywhere near fast enough.
I predict that technology will slow down when we start reaching the really stupid-sounding prefixes. There’s no way to sound cool bragging that your computer has a “yottabyte.”
True. However, I would totally be down for a Yodabyte.
Can I have a Zetabyte? This would involve Catherine Zeta Jones coming over to do tech support.
Meller: You keep talking about how women are “mutants” if they are good in the mathematical arts.
What are your degrees in?
Hmm, blockquote fail. I should stop playing at having “educations” and submit to the mighty phallus, at least until the cubercuties arrive.
@Sorka – http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9cxliw0_2S8/TRmslX7ONEI/AAAAAAAAAYI/F3FacXq-jSw/s1600/monopoly2.jpg .
Or, if he tries to implement the not-brothels plan…
http://benke.co.uk/files/virtualbox/monopoly.png
Yes! It’s him!
God f’n dammit, I was busy all day with mom stuff and helping the real world libertarians cover the NDAA issues, and I f’n missed Meller and SUPPRESSED SCIENCE!”
-Adding
And Meller, as I said on the other thread, wtf? You were on manboobz, arguing about how feminism took away your scientific ESP hovercar future, while the NDAA was in the senate and even the most annoying, tinfoli hatted libertarians I know (besides you) were organizing and calling and tweeting and mailing and blogging and screaming and occupying like hopped up worker ants as they really, no shit, no-conspiracy voted to allow us to be held indefinitely without trial?
Mister the NWO is coming was bitching about lady scientists on 12/13/11?
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
So Meller rants about things that may not be possible (some of which look to be patently impossible) and complains they don’t exist.
Then, instead of saying they might not be possible, he asserts they are certainly true, and the only reason we don’t have reliable ESP, or gravitic manipulation isn’t because it can’t be done, but because women are stupid.
Don’t forget, his utopia is for women to be slaves.
What were his degrees in again?
People like Meller are the reason Lysenkoism existed. They think science and technological achievement is just a matter of will, that you can bend nature to do whatever you want as long as you’re clever enough.
There are limits to humankind’s genius, Meller. There are scant few unbreakable laws in Physics and Maths, but we’ve found a few of them already. Zero point energy is fool’s gold. ESP is bullshit. Cold fusion and room temperature superconductors are not theoretically impossible but are very unlikely (just like strong AI that is built up from first principles rather than arrived at by evolutionary programming) and looking for means to make those is like looking for a needle in a haystack. There exists statements in mathematics that are true and yet are unproveable (the corrolary is that a universal program that finds all possible bugs in another program is impossible to conceive). And no matter if you put weat grain in freezing cold, they will never grow an immunity allowing them to be grown in Siberia.
“There are limits to humankind’s genius, Meller.”
I would also point out that human genius needs money, time and good education.
No, you’re not. You’re a whiney entitled baby with delusions of being adequate.
No you don’t. I pulled a Masters in Project Management while working full time including multiple 50+ page reports and never had to pull an all nighter.
No you don’t
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22259233/ns/us_news-education/t/study-all-nighters-hurt-students-grades/
Yep, women don’t know shit about sckience. Nothing at all