Ever wonder why there are so few women engineers? Well, wonder no more, because carchamp1 over on the Men’s Rights subreddit has the answer! It’s apparently his wife’s fault, or something. In a comment with two dozen upvotes at last count, he explains:
I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That’s four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn’t want to work anymore so she could be a “stay-at-home-mom”. When I urged her to work she said if I didn’t like it she would take our kid and I could leave.
Women don’t want to be engineers that’s why there are so few. It’s too hard. It’s a lot easier doing the “hardest job in the world”, you know, be a mom and living off your husband.
End of story.
Yeah, it’s not like there might be any other reasons beyond laziness and ingratitude, or anything.
About technology – I have an iPod nano. It’s about twice the size of a quarter, and it can hold 8GB of information. My current PC tower is less than half the size of the last one, holds more than 10 times as much information and is much faster, and that’s within a development timeframe of about 5 years. Technology is moving right along, it’s just that most people have things that they want more than hover cars, and thus development efforts are focused on the stuff that people want and are willing to pay for.
Sorry that you don’t get to live in an episode of The Jetsons, Meller, but hey, that’s life.
I’m way late on this and it’s peripheral anyway, but DKM, we DO in fact mine the sea floor for gold, diamonds, *oil*, and probably some other things that I don’t have friends in the business.
That should be “and steal men job”. *bang head on her desk*
Feminism NEEDS lots of laws, judicial rulings, and assorted government regulations to ENFORCE its demented notions of ‘equality” on everyone! Since feminism–female centered gender egalitarianism–needs such a s**tload of “social pressure and laws”, is feminism, and gender equality utterly unnatural?
Just wondering!
To her credit she was certainly the first to write such a story. Though it’s questionable that without her the idea would never have arisen but I digress…..She gets credit for being the mother of sci-fi just as Edgar Allen Poe is the father of Horror.
I’ll admit that the thought of Meller frothing at the mouth because of our collective refusal to become dolls (or robots, or perfect furry submissives, whateverthefuck) makes me laugh. A lot.
I do love the idea that I ruin all DKM’s fantasies just by existing.
Hey DKM: today I put on pants and a baggy t-shirt, studied microbiology, took a test in a hard-sciences class, talked to my boyfriend as an equal, and continued to hold an unfeminine job! Don’t that just chap your hide? My completely ordinary day?
year-round, there are at least 150 people in antarctica. There’s a marathon that happens regularly there.
We can measure the properties of the *center of the earth* We can make out details of the various layers. We’ve found living creatures alive without benefit of the sun on the bottom of the ocean.
We daily use satellites in our everyday consumer life. I can GPS myself wherever I am and know where I am and how fast I’m going. And what’s nearby.
We actually do have hovercrafts. They’re really cool but not really a commercial product due to niche market. I can show you a picture if you really want.
We can determine which of hundreds of types of breast cancer a woman has and how best to try to treat it. I would say we have actually found the cure for some cancers. Not prevented, but can cure.
We can do surgery without leaving a visible scar.
We can choose what chromosomal sex our children will have.
We can vaccinate againt many different diseases that were formerly leading causes of child mortality, to the point where people have forgotten that they exist. Since I have become aware of medical interests, (last 12 years) there have been at least three new vaccines, two of which I had the diseases for previously.
Looks like the future to me.
Meller: How the fuck do you manage to hold onto such bullshit ideas in the face of fact and logic (actual, verifiable fact, not just ‘I think it’s true, therefore it is’) is beyond me. If you weren’t such a hateful fuckwit, I might manage to feel sorry for you.
“The result is a noisy, opinionated, pushy, pedantic, and almost obsessively self-righteous creature. She cannot take any enjoyment in a man’ s company, his conversation, still less, his love, and so she is addicted to an unrelenting “anything you can do, I can do better” type of interaction with a person who otherwise would be her nearest and dearest, or at least someone who would be glad to appreciate her and her womanhood in a big way!”
LOL! Tons of commenters on this board are partnered with men, MellerKraken. Men who we think are just awesome. Pecunium mentioned cuddling with his (non-commenter) feminist girlfriend the other day. It’s like most men and women are happily pairing off and spending time together and it’s just you who’s left all alone to play with his dollies…
“it is very unlikely that today we even know which questions to ask, much less how to search for the correct answers!”
But by your logic, men can do anything! Off you go! Chop, chop! I want to see a flying car by the end of the week.
What if (purely hypothetically, now) if the curve of progress had remained in the XX century what it was in the period roughly 1750-1900, would we have had, e.g. color HDTV in 1928, a working transistor by 1935, PEACEFUL nuclear power by 1939, manned space travel by 1948, and on a commercial basis a decade or so after, maglev transcontinental rail service (both freight and passanger) by 1955, SST by 1960, commercially viable electric vehicles by 1975, and the internet/cellphones–with the supporting hardware–by c.1982?
In other words, the same technological breakthroughs, in (more-or-less) the same order, but substantially accelerated.
I don’t know, but they are useful questions to ask.
But Joanna, men can’t do anything when they’re busy making the women be in their place! If women would just stay in the kitchen, the men could stop working so hard at forcing them there, and start inventing things.
Oh, but not a restaurant kitchen. Not where they might make a living. Or be in charge of other people. Only at home by themselves. Not talking to other women. Or men. or…. little furry barn animals. Dolls don’t talk anyway.
My Dad used to take a hovercraft to work (in Singapore). According to him part of the reason they never took off is that they feel odd to travel in – he said it gave him a feeling almost like seasickness, but freakier, and he’d have preferred a regular ferry.
“would we have had, e.g. color HDTV in 1928”
No. Women couldn’t work back then. There’d be no difference.
Ok, now the previously mentioned “future” predictions were developed in 1945-just after WWII. And now somehow the wonderful 50’s men, if there had been no feminism, would have gone back in time to 1900 and invented HDTV before analog television.
I like it. Without feminism, we’d have time travel too!
And as long as I’m dreaming, I want a pony. To kick all the MRAs in the face.
It’s just one recent example off the top of my head. The point is that it takes many people with different perspectives to see the whole picture.
I love all these Visions of Mellertopia… I kind of want to write a SF novel using his ideas now.
It would be helpful, KathleenB, NOT to talk about so-called “bulls**t ideas” from one who takes lunacy like gender equality politics seriously! You may find that you are throwing stones, when the most that you can safely handle are little pebbles.
There is also the saying about the pot and the kettle calling each other “black”!
Cassandra, do you have a picture of the hovercraft by any chance? The one I rode in was more of a hobby vehicle and had certain issues, such as if you were’t VERY careful slowing down, it would nosedive into the water/mud and throw everybody into the front windshield. There were no seatbelts due to (unfounded IMO) concerns about the vehicle flipping. Or possible manly manly man manness and the “flipping” was a post hoc justification.
@cassandra There’s also some safety issues with it as well. I think flying cars (unless there was a tube network set in place) would be far more dangerous than normal cars. If they broke down, you’d fall to your death =/
>>>www. infinite-energy.com is a good place to start
I called it! I fucking called it! You ARE a fucking “Infinite Energy” loon! I knew it.
I wish I was a conman because now I have a 100% guaranteed mark. Jesus. Gold loon AND free energy loon at once? Think of all the money I could make scamming you.
Meller: You’re funny, in a twisted 1950s/victorian fetishist kind of way. But you’re still a sexist fuckwit who can’t back up a single statement he’s made here about gender or politics (at least not with actual citations from actual, reputable sources. ‘I pulled this out of my ass, it is absolute fact’ in not, in fact, a valid citation. Shocking, I know.)
Meller: I will happily put my general knowledge and IQ up against yours.
One quibble. Women have always worked. From working the family farm alongside their male relatives, to factory work in the 19th and early 20th centuries, to domestic work. Poor women and women of color have *always* worked in this country. At one point, the vast majority African American women in this country were slaves — and working.
There was also a progressive surge in culture and education among women during the 20’s and 30’s. It wasn’t until after WWII when women were pressured to give up their jobs for returning GIs that our culture regressed to the “domestic bliss” of the 50’s that folks like DKM pretend was always the case.
But this still illustrates how absolutely nothing DKM says is remotely factual. He’s a moron with no concept of history, and an outright liar to boot.