So over on MGTOWforums — the festering hive of misogyny that is the internet’s largest forum for so-called Men Going Their Own Way — one of the regulars was so impressed with the Evo-Psychy insights of a YouTube commenter by the name of Moe that he decided to share them with the gang there. And I have decided to share them with you.
Brace yourself, though, because Moe is bringing some hardcore SCIENCE to the topics of feminism being awful and why women are such terrible selfish child-murdering monsters.
Moe starts off with some MGTOW basics:
Feminism is a natural development of women’s desire to hate, manipulate, exploit, and discriminate against men for women’s personal gain.
Yes, Moe, but why?
Women do not and cannot love men.
Dang. That’s rough.
Women only like gathering stuff, because they are biologically driven to gather as much stuff as possible. Women actually get an emotional rush from buying stuff and receiving stuff. They do not get the same rush from creating, achieving, or earning stuff.
Oh, because cavewomen were gatherers! You can’t argue with SCIENCE like that. Mostly because it isn’t science. It’s just words arranged in such a way that they sound vaguely like science to people who have no idea what science is.
Women see men as their competitors (advisories) and providers of resources. This all means women have an amorality similar to lower evolved animals that steal or do anything possible to procure resources.
Uh, so pretty much all animals then? I mean, evolutionarily speaking, animals basically need to do two things: they need to survive and reproduce, and eating is sort of essential to the first task.
Also, if you’re trying to relate womens’ interest in buying things with their role as gatherers in hunter-gatherer societies, wouldn’t that mean that men would be similarly interested in killing and eating stuff? How is killing and eating animals any less amoral than, you know, picking berries?
The government provides them with an opportunity to force employers, all men, their men (yes they like to cuckold), education institutions, and even other women to provide for them.
Wait, how did we get from gathering to cuckolding?
IMO Many women do not feel the need to have children. When big daddy government will take care of women from birth to death, then women will have less or no child(ren). Children were just an old age policy for women: something to use when their man-slave dropped dead.
Yeah, women carefully arranged all that pregnancy and childbirth stuff with Mother Nature — also a woman! — so they’d have children and grandchildren to sponge off of.
Women also used to practice infanticide overwhelmingly on little girls throughout history, because those little girls provided less future utility (use) to the the woman. Also boys are easier to manipulate and will be needed asap if their man-slaves drops dead quickly.
So, killing girls is actually a form of discrimination against … men.
The modern divorce laws in western nations also allow women to get the greatest utility from the ex-husband through holding the child(ren) hostage, while having multiple new men to exploit for even more resources and other benefits. This is the reason for the high divorce rate. Women do not want or need men, and given the option they will be happier acquiring more stuff from government, multiple men, and the babies daddy.
Never mind that welfare payments are dinky and that roughly 30% of custodial mothers don’t receive any of the child support money they’re owed.
The real fatal flaw of feminism, all women doing this in mass creates a situation where the population declines, while the welfare system increases. These women are illogical, because they just assume: men will continue to put up with their shit … .
Oh, dear. Is the apocalypse near at hand? I have the strange feeling that the apocalypse is near at hand.
Well, welcome to the new reality women: almost 25% of you will never be married. Discriminating against men pisses them off and drives them from education and work, so your hypergamous needs will be unfulfilled. The single men will produce less, so the government will receive less. Employers will leave the country, in order to flee high regulations, taxation, and lower productivity female employees.
And here it comes, right on schedule!
Women have less desire to produce as much as men, so they are inefficient employees in comparison. Lower standards and female accommodations also lower business productivity, and increase costs.
Oh no! Damn those lazy women.
Hey, while you’re at it, can you work lazy brown people into the mix somehow?
The government will increase immigration, because it needs more slaves to pay the growing women’s needs, but the new slaves are of a different culture that does not value the 40-60 hour week westernize male slave system. Also, the immigrants will take full advantage of your welfare system more so than the natives.
Thanks! Misogyny and racism, two great tastes that taste great together!
Welcome to a diminishing economy, where less men will give a shit about women. Your wants will increase, but the resources will decrease. Haha I am going to love seeing the world turn to shit in the next few years!
Well, I guess we can’t argue with SCIENCE.
Honestly? I don’t think they really believe that women need them. I think they desperately wish it was true, and resent the fact that it isn’t, and that resentment is what drives a lot of misogyny.
@kiwi girl
But Kiwi Girl, citinations are misandry!
*citations. Damn :/
“Honestly? I don’t think they really believe that women need them. I think they desperately wish it was true, and resent the fact that it isn’t, and that resentment is what drives a lot of misogyny.”
Ah. But I wonder if, like narcissists, they only subconsciously know that, but their defense mechanism is to believe it and keep building that false belief even if the bricks are made of bullshit… If that makes any sense.
The real-life misogynists I’ve met in my life seem to REALLY REALLY think that women are hapless, defenseless children who would perish without them.
I think the keyboard warriors are a very specific subset of misogynists. Most of the men I’ve met offline who’re truly convinced of their own superiority I can’t imagine bothering to write long, whiny, attention-seeking screeds online about how they don’t need women, they really don’t, honest, they’re going their own way, any day now! The keyboard warriors mostly seem like sad, insecure, attention-starved creatures. I honestly can’t imagine a Warren Jeffs-style real life patriarch doing that shit.
So tempted to start a Kickstarter for MGTOW Island if they would promise they would bloody go there and stay there.
Every time they threaten to do so I always feel like offering them a compass and a map, since they don’t seem to be able to find their way away from feminist blogs.
We could create a browser filter, called something like Net Feminist, and have it auto-block all feminist sites.
I don’t know that a compass and a map is helpful to them as they don’t appear to be capable of finding their arse with both hands.
I wonder if they need GPS to find their way to the fridge to get a beer.
Nah, their gravitation fields mean that the fridge is locked into geostationary orbit around them.
pecunium- frankly they probably aren’t much better in enclosed area fights. When we used to play at a laser tag place, most of the crowd were young guys who thought that playing video games made them mighty warriors. Our group of friends would field a team of guys in their thirties and two to four women.
The shock when they got handed their heads by ‘a bunch of old farts and girls’ never ever got old. They’d usually take two or three rounds to get the idea that it wasn’t a fluke. Then, most of the time, one would come over and casually ask us how we ran a round.
One of our team would lean over and confide they had a secret weapon, somebody to run plays, and point at me. All five foot nothing,125 pounds in the armor of middle aged me.
Cue the indignant spluttering. I wasn’t the best on the team in tactics but I was really good at watching the other team in holding and predicting how they’d play. And our team didn’t care who was the big hero, they cared about getting the points and staying alive.
Once in a very great while, instead of spluttering one of them would ask if they could play a round or two with us.We kept a couple of those as regulars.
I figure most of the keyboard warriors we see gleefully waiting for the crash of civilization wouldn’t last very long. They don’t get team work, they don’t like putting a group goal ahead of their personal agenda and they’re crap at staying cool under pressure.
@oraclenine: but they’ll be strategising and looking for synergies and making sure transitions happen in a seamless fashion.
Although… as long as we keep the telephone hygienists, we should be okay.
Kiwi girl- yeah, except the ones who suddenly realize a real civilization collapse has no cheat codes. Once the grocery stores are empty and the gas pumps stop running they’ll be awfully lost. Disasters don’t come with a reset switch.
orecline: I’ve had people who took instruction; it’s not that hard to give the basics (and not using lethal hardware makes it a lot easier to learn the way things work).
The big difference between soldiers and paintballers? We didn’t give a shit about “glory”, and were willing to communicate. Did we take chances? Sure. I’ve been popped in the head more than a few times trying to turn a flank, and I’ve run out to draw fire (same in “laser” arenas). I’ve made mistakes and been pinned down so that the only options were, “death or glory” (death being the usual result).
But once the need for stealth was over, it was, “Rob, look out on the left side”, and “see if you can get to that spot” (followed by a quick series of shots to show where the target is).
If I can get teams of two to work together, and be quiet until they get engaged; and then be quiet again when the engagement is over; it only takes four people to own the middle of the field, which means the other people on the team can put a lot of pressure up the flanks (which makes it a bit easier for four people to own the middle of the field).
But Paintballers will tell you that, “this isn’t like the Army, it’s different out here; you can’t do that “hit the dirt thing, you’ll just get shot in the head”. Nope.
The biggest difference I see between soldiers who play paintball, and the guys who, “do” paintball, is the soldiers aim. The “professionals” on the other side ‘spray and pray”.
I somehow doubt guys who show the level of intellectual rigor the Manosphere, are going to be even that good if getting killed for real is an option.
Yeah, there was a laser tag version of spray and pray- guys who could not get that they waving their gun around firing blindly did not make them invincible. Even better, there’ was often more than one of them on a team. Dudes, you cannot see your own back.
Playing well with others is not a character flaw, no matter what mighty warrior fantasies these guys entertain.
For the last damn time, “evolutionary” doesn’t mean “whatever I can construct a pretty story about cavemen to justify”!
I blame FPS games. They’re extremely different from a real gunfight so they can be more fun, and to compensate for the lack of peripheral vision/quick head movements.
They may be right about us being man-slaves, though. I’ve already been one for several months. The Furrinati has a firm grip on me, and I would try to break it, but Navi’s just too damn adorable when she’s playing with her toys.
I just wonder something. According to their philosophies women don’t love and aren’t attracted to men unless they are assholes. And yet they themselves are one of the biggest assholes around and but still noone loves them. Do they even notice this or it’s too much to ask?
@Diana Adams
See, the thing is, they don’t think they’re assholes, they think they’re perfectly reasonable and “just telling it like it is” and whatnot.
@Marie
It’s a smart idea, and a shame that anyone has to have deflection strategies at all!
You know, for men supposedly going their own way, they focus a lot on what women are doing.
Perhaps this is too late in the comments to bring up, but that “flirt by tearing down her boyfriends, which she mentions having” PUA strategy sounds really goddamn dumb to me.
I mean, I am a virgin, right? And I am almost completely asocial (even anti-social when I’m mad or sad or sumthin’). So I don’t jack about dating, sex or girls. Never had a girlfriend, ever. Barely flirted much in my 24 years of living, even.
But even I can guesstimate that a girl who eagerly reveals herself to be a spiteful lech who insults random people behind their backs is NOT someone I’d want anywhere close to me, let alone sucking my dick or joining me for a candle light dinner in Paris.
Am I close to sensical here? Are my instincts correct? Anyone agree with me?
Those PUA-types are a questionable lot.
As most of you are probably no doubt aware the great actor Philip Seymour Hoffman passed away yesterday here he is summing up everything I want to say whenever one of these fools opens there mouths.
If your in a public place best turn the volume down on your PC’s or lap tops before listening to it but my god is it cathartic RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman.
I believe the idea is that she’s HAWT and all you want her to do is the second.
They wouldn’t care if she was an asshole.