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Some Sunday night BIOTRUTHS from a masturbation-obsessed MGTOW

MGTOWs blind themselves with “science”

By David Futrelle

Misogynists generally like to think of themselves as rational fellows with a love of SCIENCE! But it turns out that more than a few of them have confused SCIENCE! with “things they pull from the collective posteriors that vaguely line up with their retrograde hatred of all things female.”

Take, for example, the SCIENCE-loving masturbation enthusiast known as sonic1101, who regularly graces the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit with nuggets of wisdom he has apparently just fished out of the toilet.

Here are some of his recently posted insights. (Click on any of the pics below to see the original comments in context.)

Here he PROVES that woman can’t love properly, because EVOLUTION.

sonic1101 2 points 49 minutes ago Women are biologically INCAPABLE of truly loving men. It is just how women evolved. Men evolved to be a loyal provider to the mother of his children (because that gave his offspring maximum chance of survival). Women evolved to be DISLOYAL and ALWAYS on the lookout for a better provider (because that gave her offspring maximum chance of survival). Same goal, different strategies. Nature doesn't care about 'justice'. Because they evolved differently, women do not love men the same way men love women. This is why women get over a long term relationship break up so much easier than men because they were never that deeply psychologically invested in the first place.

He seems a bit obsessed with this particular SCIENTIFIC finding, one that many other manosphere dudes seem quite convinced of as well.

sonic1101 22 points 17 days ago DUH we know this. Women are the same THE WORLD OVER. Their manipulative, disloyal, hypergamous nature is BIOLOGICAL. This is why it makes me laugh my ass off when I hear men say "asian women are different". No they are not fool.

He also has strong feelings — sorry, SCIENTIFIC INSIGHTS — about women and sex. Specifically, he contends that women don’t like it very much.

sonic1101 1 point 4 days ago NEWSFLASH Women generally don't like sex that much.

This is also a bit of an obsession with him.

sonic1101[S] 2 points 1 month ago Shut the fuck up they HATE sex. They don't want some strange penis inside them unless they are getting something for it. They would MUCH RATHER masturbate and they don't even do that very often. You have fallen for women's lies you doofus.

As it turns out, sonic1101 also prefers masturbation to sex, or so he says, because it is OBJECTIVELY BETTER than sex, as he proves with LOGIC (or something that vaguely resembles logic anyway).

sonic1101[S] 2 points 1 month ago Do you realize how brilliant your hand is at stimulating your penis? Are you circumcised? Why are you so bad at masturbation? Are you rushing it? WTF is your issue? How the fuck can you possibly say that a vagina is more skilled at stimulating your penis than your own hand? It doesn't even make sense scientifically. So like I said, you are either a woman, or you have never been laid and imagine pussy to be this magical thing that magically stimulates all the precise areas of your penis the way you want. Let me tell you virgin, it DOESN'T.

He feels quite certain about this, as he does about so many things involving his penis.

sonic1101[S] 4 points 1 month ago No you are wrong. I DON'T want to fuck them. Because fucking them does not feel as good as masturbating to them. Why can't you understand that? Porn LOOKS better than it FEELS. You might get really turned on by WATCHING a certain sexual position or act, but actually DOING it does not feel as good. And when you are doing it you can't switch to another woman, you can't pause, you can't repeat, you have to wear a condom, you have to consider the other person, you can't take as long as you want. GET THE PICTURE MORON?

Not surprisingly, this deep thinker has many deep thoughts about the future. Most of which seem to involve sexbots and virtual reality porn.

sonic1101[S] 5 points 19 days ago* But as the technology gets better it will eventually become widely acknowledged that virtual reality sex is OBJECTIVELY a superior sexual experience to sex with physical women. So the social currency associated with the company of physical women will dissolve. I know this is hard to imagine now, but coming technologies will expand the sexual and sensual experience ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE greater than what is currently available to any human.

sonic1101[S] 3 points 19 days ago I think in say 30 years the robots will morph into any person you desire. So you won't need to keep buying a new one. The face and body will just morph. So save the Facebook pictures of the women you know so you can feed them into the machine in 2047.


Not all of sonic1101’s opinions are related to things one can do with a penis. He also has thoughts on agriculture.

sonic1101 1 point 26 days ago There will be no need for agriculture because all food will be assembled molecule by molecule. So all that agricultural land will be available for other purposes. There will be no shortage. You only need a small amount of soil. Waste can be recycled in the molecular assembler. Even all your waste water can be reassembled, your feces can be reassembled back into cheeseburgers. There is always a small patch of earth even in a concrete jungle. There is no need for anyone to "guard" land because money won't exist. What do you need money for?

TOP TIP: If sonic1101 ever invites you to a backyard barbecue, DO NOT ATTEND.

Some of sonic1101’s thoughts border on the cosmic:

sonic1101[S] 2 points 1 month ago Yeah, in fact nature DID intend for our species to develop technology, the internet and online porn. Because all these things expand the complexity, intelligence and experiences of the universe. That IS the way the universe works. Porn technology represents the expansion of the human erotic experience, just as technology has expanded the human experience in so many other areas. This is entirely consistent with evolution. I don't believe there is such thing as "addiction to pornography" what does that even mean?

sonic1101 5 points 20 days ago* If we are born alone, and die alone why is there a need to belong in between? You were not born into the universe, you were born OUT of it. You belong to it, because you ARE it. You are not IN the universe you ARE the universe. You are not PART of the universe, because the universe does not have parts. All reality is one seamless continuum. This is really the truth. You are actually the WHOLE universe. This is why death is impossible. rishi851 will fall apart but YOU won't. Because you are not rishi851. rishi851 is simply a window that YOU are looking through. I am you too, and you are me. I know all this to be true from long disciplined use of psychedelics. Enjoy your relationship to the universe, it is a relationship you are having with yourself. So... enjoy YOURSELF!

All I can say to that is FAR FREAKIN OUT.

EDIT: Made a few minor edits, added some links.

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Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@Arctic Ape,

Mish: Fullmeal Alchemist?


Yes, and YOUR feces have clearly been reassembled back into your brain

Mei-Mei (one of my cats) would like you both to know that you caused her human to snort loudly, twice, and she is not impressed (she was in said human’s lap at the time).

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
4 years ago

Bina, I do not say this enough. I appreciate you and every word you put to the screen <3 Your posts are a linguistic hike through a lovely meadow.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

When Bina does a take-down, that person is OWNED.

4 years ago


I are envy. Firstly because I still have to wait at least another four weeks before I’m allowed any ‘personal exploration’ (eight weeks until my partner is allowed to join in) and secondly because three hours? damn!


*standing ovation*

Well said indeed!


Yes, and YOUR feces have clearly been reassembled back into your brain. Which is why every “scientific” aperçu you’ve spewed here smells of ass.

Loved it!!

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

I prefer charm penis to strange (science puns)

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago


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4 years ago

@Gussie Jives:

I’m keeping my identity in that world a secret, but I was a pretty popular furry artist, myself, up til about 5 years ago when some life shit got in the way. I didn’t expect to run into another here! Kind of exciting being in masks and all. LOL

😀 I was, uh, kind of pulled into that scene… not really my thing, but I found the clientele mostly welcoming and taught myself to draw within the parameters, supporting the community while never really being -of- it. I don’t regret it, definitely have stories.

That said, I TOTALLY commiserate with you about the sometimes… suspect understanding of biology from clients. (I imagine it’s the same with all adult art, though furry fans tend to be more bold with their commission requests.) Internal shots and cross-sections were an automatic “no” from me, mostly because I didn’t feel confident with the skillset… but also because yes, a lot of people seem to think the cervix is easily penetrated/meant to be penetrated/penetrating it is a sign of your amazing endowments or somesuch… even in a fantasy world where everybody’s got massive dang-ers, it’s…

as a cervix-haver, I didn’t want to spend 12 emails explaining how painful the very idea was. Someone asked me to do a cross-section of someone’s insides being flooded, once, and I don’t think I have to explain why I gave a polite “no” to that. Even knowing they were operating from a “we’re all made of marshmallow fluff, just go with it” mindset, I didn’t know where to begin from a legit artistic level. They don’t really teach that at school.

You think floating ribs are mysterious to most people? Pff.
Try like… everything… *waves hands over an anatomical chart* everything in this general… yeah. All of that.

I think some people either think, or desperately want to think, the humanoid form is mostly hollow. Even my small, rural Texas health class taught us better than that. Yeesh. Yeesh to the max.

I KNOW, I KNOW, I’ve been gone for like a month and I come back to say this. I don’t think I need to explain how the news cycle wears some of us down, right? ^^; Y’all be good.

4 years ago

@Msexceptiontotherule yup, I was thinking of the same thing. The Star Whale it was. God I cried so many tears. Especially having seen the Doctor Who episode where the other Star Whale was carrying all of what was left of the UK on it’s back and they were torturing it.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I just rewatched that episode, The Beast Below the other day. It really got me teary eyed.

Staring at the Sky
Staring at the Sky
4 years ago

I suspect most of the MGTOW crowd is strongly anti-gay. But I doubt the realize that when they shake hands with other guys, both of them have used those very hands to wank off with.

3 years ago

Oh, boy, I was thinking when he said death was impossible that I once or twice had myself thoroughly convinced of that while tripping and it was a good trip.

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