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MGTOW: Women “have to be harnessed like mules” to prevent the collapse of civilization

Famous actor name of Brad Pit
Famous actor name of Brad Pit

Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the MGTOWs are MGTOWing it up like nobody’s business, trying to get to the bottom of what is perhaps the essential question of our age: When will mom bring down the pizza rolls?

Sorry, I mean: “Will feminism ruin society?

The answers range from “it already has” to “IT ALREADY HAS” to “women … have to be harnessed like mules and forced to live out their lives in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years, otherwise we’re f*cked.”

There are so many gems that it’s hard to know where to start, so let’s start with the OP, Broken_Snowglobe, who plaintively asks: “Why do feminist think that they are oppressed?”

How is feminist formed / how girl think oppressed?

“Females have every right that a man has if not more,” Broken_Snowglobe continues, quickly revealing that he is a Man Going His Own Way Punctuation-Wise — a MGHOWPW.  Try reading this next, er, sentence in one breath:

Females over the years have gotten greedy because let me say this men let females have rights keyword (LET) what feminism actually promotes is a movement that is pushing for female patriarchy when in reality if this goal is accomplished society with crumble at our feet it will cease to exist down to its very root.

I got as far as “crumble.”

Females these days are entitled they talk about men such as brad pit saying and I quote “We never have to worry about rape from men like brad pit” the female mind operates on parasitical terms the rich man will be considered superior to common man while on the hand the common is inferior.

Well, it’s good he’s got an exact quote here, which I have enshrined in the demotivational poster above.

The picture I used for it was originally a gif,and I feel I should post it here now just so all the straight guys reading this realize just what it is that we are all competing with.

pittgif
Famous actor name of Brad Pit in movie name of Burn After Readin

But females don’t extend this courtesy to those of us who are not named Brad Pit. Or those of us not named Brad Pitt, either, I suspect.

Females label all common man as “rapist” I’m sure not a rapist odds are you aren’t either.

Females are pushing for rights when they have more rights they have an organization dedicated to female rights and needs.

It is so unfair that females have an organization dedicated to female rights and needs when females DON’T have an organization dedicated to male rights and needs, and males are expressly forbidden by law from forming an organization dedicated to male rights and needs and, hold on, I’m being told that men are not actually forbidden by law from starting their own organizations so wait a second Broken_Snowglobe what exactly are you complaining about here, that males are too lazy and incompetent to start their own organizations and also I’m pretty sure that there are male organizations devoted to male rights and needs but that they’re generally tiny and embarrassing because you know MEN AS A CLASS ARE NOT OPPRESSED.

Plus they have all marriage rights house half of you’re things etc….females are the devil and I encourage you to avoid them as much as possible. P.S Hide you’re monies friends or females will take that as well.

Just don’t hide your monies in a dirty sock because then mom, sorry I mean some other female that you’re banging, will find it when she’s doing your laundry!

Now it is certainly possible that Broken_Snowglobe, who has been a Redditor for all of one day, is actually a troll.

But this possibility has evidently not occurred to any of the regulars in r/MGTOW, or at least not to any of those who have replied to Mr. Snowglobe’s comments. Mostly because they agree with him.

Teflon0819, who has been a Redditor for far longer than a day, offers a serious and sincere response to Mr. Snowglobe’s possibly not so sincere wail of male anguish that helps us to understand other key issues with regard to feminists and civilization. Like, for example, the ways in which the “female imperative” is similar to a certain genre of Japanese porn.

Feminism won’t ruin society, but the feminine imperative will. Feminism is just one of its wriggly little tentacles.

When I mentioned to my octopus friend that she and her fellow octopuses were being used to make a ridiculous misogynistic argument in r/MGTOW, she made pretty clear she wanted no part of it.

giphy (13)

Happily for her, Teflon0819 quickly dropped this metaphor for a new one, writing in the very next sentence that

Feminism will continue to be exposed for the toxic cesspool of bullshit that it is, but society will ultimately only shun the superficial label known as “feminism”, treating the symptom instead of the disease.

And then — sorry, octopuses! — he returned to his earlier metaphor:

The feminine imperative will simply shed the corrupted tentacle and grow a new one with a new label that people will rally behind.

Sooner or later civilization as we know it will fall, and men will be left to pick up the pieces and build a new civilization. Which in turn, once well-established will be hijacked by the feminine imperative once again and be led to ruin.

Huh. Do you have any historical examples in which a civilization fell because of an excess of “female imperative?”

I think the male instinct to protect, provide and compete for women – which is a perfectly natural biological process – inevitably breeds a destructive entitlement in women that leads to the downfall of civilizations in a never ending cycle.

Oh, it’s a never-ending cycle, then? If that’s true, there should be a whole bunch of examples. Alas, Teflon0819 offers none.

Five_Decades, presumably drawing on his five decades of experience, doesn’t think feminism will destroy civilization as such. After all, he notes, we’ve “survived famines, plagues, wars, government collapses.”

But he does think that a lot of women will end up really depressed once they realize how much they suck.

I predict a massive rise in misandry and unhappy women because women who themselves do not have much to offer are constantly being told they deserve to have the best of everything (best men, best relationships, best kids, best careers, best incomes, etc) when back in reality only a tiny, tiny minority of women have the skills and luck to deserve those things. And when they get disappointed one too many times, I’m sure they will (as a class) blame men for it. But it won’t end society.

Zegy kind of agrees:

I don’t think we are at the point of total collapse yet but we are getting to the point were feminism/SWJ are trying to censor our speech using shamming tactics …

How is men shammed / how boy get censor

… using shamming tactics like micro aggressions, mansplaing, hell even our physical actions such as manspreading, will this ruin or society this little things I doubt it; because Great men will continue to invent new things and shape this world regardless but the average male is only get more and more controlled

Men will survive the tyranny of getting dirty looks, once in a very long while, when they take up more than one seat on the subway!

But it is RandolphTheWarlock who offers the only real solution that will enable us to rebuild our already collapsed civilization. It involves harnesses.

We’ll get to that in a moment. First, Randolph explains just how it was that the wily female has brought our civilization down. Women start off “absolutely batshit crazy,” he explains, but the West has made them even worse with all of its female-coddling and whatnot:

Put [women] in an environment like the West where they’re coddled and worshipped and never have to worry about f*cking up because there’s always someone there to bail them out, and they become … not just crazy, not just bad women, but bad human beings.

It has been reported that all women need to do to get bailed out is to sit down in the street and cry.

I’d contend that they’ve already ruined our society. I’m only 34, but in just the last twenty years I’ve seen the US transition from a prosperous Mayberry with only a few serious urban blights, to a degenerated patchwork of ghetto sh*tholes spanning the entire nation, with a subsequent decline in the quality and character of both genders.

As someone who is, well, a teensy bit older than 34, I would like to ask: Did you grow up in the Truman Show or something?

Never mind, because it’s HARNESS TIME!

Can't touch this
Can’t touch this

Sorry about that. Anyway, now is the time when Randolph talks about the harnesses:

As it turns out, oppressing women is absolutely vital to creating and maintaining a civilized human society. They have to be harnessed like mules and forced to live out their lives in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years, otherwise we’re f*cked.

MGTOW dudes, just go start your own damn civilization on an island somewhere already. To help expedite this process, I’ve gone ahead and picked out several possible islands for you. Well, technically speaking, I picked them out for Roosh V, but he has yet to claim any of them. So now’s your chance!

You’re welcome!

H/T — r/TheBluePill

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pitshade
pitshade
6 years ago

How is the feminine imperative instained?

Hippielady
Hippielady
6 years ago

Why why why haven’t they gone their own way yet?

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Females label all common man as “rapist”
http://www.mememaker.net/static/meme/misc-female-seriously.png
“Boy! I hate it when ALL Feeeemales generalize ALL men!” ..What..

I’m so confused.
“Men are so loving, protective and honorable! Now let’s oppress and treat women like animals!”

“Men are superior! But we have to be afraid of the females taking over!”

“Men can’t control themselves! Why are we seen as violent rapists!?”

“My free speech! But it’s ok to take everyone else’s free speech though!”

Just go, Mgtow, go build your own civilization on some island. Bye, you fragile things.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

The four-dot ellipsis was almost a relief.

Mels
Mels
6 years ago

I predict a massive rise in misandry and unhappy women because women who themselves do not have much to offer are constantly being told they deserve to have the best of everything (best men, best relationships, best kids, best careers, best incomes, etc) when back in reality only a tiny, tiny minority of women have the skills and luck to deserve those things. And when they get disappointed one too many times, I’m sure they will (as a class) blame men for it.

Oh…oh my god.
You’re so close, my angry little MGTOW friend. So. Close.

Sinkable John
Sinkable John
6 years ago

Today, I learned of the importance of punctuation. Or lack thereof in case of trolling, if that’s what it is.

Still funny how the ones who most definitely aren’t trolls still manage to be even more disconnected from reality than the plausible troll.

@Fruitloopsie

Spot on. That sums up MGTOWness SO WELL, and in its entirety.

Dam of Lances
6 years ago

They do seem to be advising each other to avoid females altogether, sooo, that’s a plus.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

When will the record stop repeating.

Kit Fowley
Kit Fowley
6 years ago

Pictured: shamming tactics
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Crys T
Crys T
6 years ago

Sorry to be sort of OT, but I hit the gif of Pitt just as the intro to Back in Black started. It was glorious.

Now I’m off to finish the post and read comments.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
6 years ago

Females have every right that a man has if not more

Presented without any comment other than the bolding.

I’d contend that they’ve already ruined our society. I’m only 34, but in just the last twenty years I’ve seen the US transition from a prosperous Mayberry with only a few serious urban blights, to a degenerated patchwork of ghetto sh*tholes spanning the entire nation, with a subsequent decline in the quality and character of both genders.

What? I’m of a similar age and this has not been my experience at all. Actually, gang violence was much more of a hot topic in the early-mid 90s than it is today. From the late 70s until well into the 90s, recessions were common. The mid-late 90s economic boom was an exception in my lifetime. Not the rule. Seriously. What the fuck is this guy even talking about?

pitshade
pitshade
6 years ago

@ weirwoodtreehugger

Mayberry vs. Ghetto => White Genocide is on his mind.

Chiomara
Chiomara
6 years ago

female patriarchy

He doesn’t know the word “matriarchy”? Seriously?

“We never have to worry about rape from men like brad pit” the female mind operates on parasitical terms the rich man will be considered superior to common man while on the hand the common is inferior.

Hahahahahahahahaha, that was especifically funny for me. I was raped by a 30 something rich blonde guy (and his very conventionally pretty wife) and nothing terrifies me more than rich men. Because poor and “ugly” men may hurt you, but a rich and “beautiful” man can fuck you up, get away with it, and everyone will doubt you. And I can’t be the only one terrified either. Look at the brutal crimes commited by rich and famous men.

Argle Bargle (formerly Carr)
Argle Bargle (formerly Carr)
6 years ago

and I quote “We never have to worry about rape from men like brad pit”

I’ll take ”Things that nobody has ever said” for 500!

Freemage
Freemage
6 years ago

A couple points:

1: It’s been awhile since I’ve seen the once-common obsession with Brad Pitt in these pieces. It’s kind of old-school, dating back to the era when these guys were all so obsessed with Angelina Jolie that they resented anyone who actually had a relationship with her.

2: I’m pretty sure that most gay and bisexual men feel inadequate, too, comparing themselves to Brad Pitt in that gif, David. Hell, the asexual ones probably start thinking they should do a little more exercise, and maybe a new haircut.

3: Per the usual confluence of awful ideologies, RandolphtheWarlock managed to squeeze in some not-so-subtle racist digs, there, in the midst of his blatant misogyny (Mayberry of the past vs. the ‘degenerate patchwork of ghettos’). I’m assuming he also believes Paris, France and Dearborn, MI, have Muslim-controlled ‘police no-go zones’.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

And now, a quote from my favorite misandrist pony, Miss Rarity:

(Rarity was doing this as an act to get out of being forced to dig for gems by Diamond Dogs [all of whom present as masculine] who kidnapped her because she has magic that can find them. She then cries and whines until the Diamond Dogs do all of the digging for her [among other things, like wait on her hoof and, well, hoof], and then when her friends arrive to “save” her, the Dogs are begging for them to take Rarity off of their paws, and she takes all the gems with her! Misandry!)

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
6 years ago

Dem Females are takin’ are jobs!!! *shakes fist in air

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
6 years ago

Kit: I saw that infomercial on YouTube recently. I can’t remember much else apart from that guy’s eyebrow expressions. It was just…mesmerising.

Speaking of things that stand out:
FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMAAAAAAAALLLEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all.

EDIT: No, not quite. Oogly, I just posted that video to Facebook comments while discussing anti-immigration rhetoric. Thanks for giving me an excuse to post it twice in one day!

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

It seems like Brad Pitt is a really nice guy. Why do MGTOWs and MRAs constantly drag him into their nonsense? You know, the idea that if Brad Pitt were hitting randomly on women, those women would be flattered and not offended. I honestly don’t think Brad Pitt would do that. Mel Gibson might, and I think a lot of women would be offended and not flattered, because he’s a horrendous human being and his attractive face doesn’t change that.

BritterSweet
6 years ago

But I thought they WANTED civilization to collapse so they could live out their post-apocalyptic harem fantasy.

Wait, that’s MRAs. But considering how obsessive MGTOWs are about controlling the women they claim to want to avoid, you can’t blame me for mixing them up.

Sinkable John
Sinkable John
6 years ago

@BritterSweet

But I thought it was Red Pillers that had post-apocalyptic fantasies ?

Wait, that’s just their namesake.

I kinda wanna start a troll MRA movement parody. Possibly one that involves fighting the impending doom of the sexbot uprising.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 years ago

a prosperous Mayberry

I miss 1996, when everybody had cowlicks and slingshots and was white, and 14 year olds with their head up their ass and no grasp of current events could still believe their sheltered suburban life was the center of the universe. Yep. We’d set on the porch whittlin’ and listenin’ to the Spice Girls.

Now it’s all just one big monolithic smoking ghetto. I blame it on Jim Nabors getting gay-married.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
6 years ago

@sunny
True “FEMALES ARE TAKING OVER EVERYTHING!1!1!1!1!!!!” is alot more apt.
@POM
Fight Club that is all.
@BritterSweet
I can’t keep track of them all, one way or another they end up being the hateful, pedo defending, power abusing, fascist, racist, transphobic, antifeminist, neonazi group. I wish I can say that is hyperbole, but thanks to internet hyperbole is meaningless.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Chiomara
Hugs if you want them.

Brittersweet
MRAs, mgtowers, red pillers, puas and other misogynists all boil down to “females (and pretty much everybody in general) don’t obey my every command, let me get away with everything and this makes me sad. ?”

Neremanth
Neremanth
6 years ago

I’m struggling to imagine what the world would look like post feminism-induced collapse of civilisation, so as to be able to picture what these men would have to work with as they laboured to build it back up again, and I just can’t get my head round it. Mostly, I think, because I can’t quite visualise how the collapse itself would work. Are we talking power plants stop churning out electricity; mobile phone towers stop transmitting; the internet’s permanently down; planes, cars, buses, trains and boats stop in their tracks; and everyone who ever knew even vaguely anything about how all that works has spontaneously forgotten it? So, pre-industrial revolution, say? That still doesn’t seem like there’s no civilisation going on (the Greeks and Romans, for example, surely the first examples that come to mind when you say “civilisation”, managed fine without all that). So perhaps it’s more drastic than that? Everyone forgets how to agriculture and also how to co-operate in groups and divide tasks between individuals, forcing everyone to do everything for themselves from scratch? Damn, that’s some powerful feminine imperative tentacles!

I’m also curious as to what exactly constitutes, for a woman, “liv[ing] out [her] li[fe] in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years”. It was rather unhelpful of RandolphTheWarlock not to specify (or maybe he did and David didn’t quote that part?) As a woman who’d prefer to live in the society of the present day rather than one similar to those of the stone age, I’d quite like to know what kind of choices are invested with this power of turning back the clocks. Is it ok to wear yellow? Can I travel by train? Should I have tomato or mushroom sauce with my pasta, or should I just avoid pasta altogether?

Still, if I do slip up and cause the next apocalypse, I’ll take comfort in the fact that it could have been worse: at least we’re reverting 10,000 years, rather than 5,000, so whatever else we lose from modern day society, we’ll skip right over patriarchy and land in egalitarianism. (Thanks, Wikipedia! I’ll miss you after the collapse of civilisation.)

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