Categories
a woman is always to blame alpha asshole cock carousel citation needed crackpottery creepy don draper says what empathy deficit entitled babies evil sexy ladies men who should not ever be with women ever misogyny rape rape culture red pill rhymes with roosh sluts that's completely wrong

Pickup guru Roosh V: Unmarried women who don't live with their parents are sluts

Evil slut in her den of depravity
Evil slut in her den of depravity

I‘ve been trying to avoid reading, much less writing about, the human stain and pickup guru who calls himself Roosh V. But I couldn’t keep myself away from his most recent post, an appalling little exercise called The Most Reliable Way To Tell If A Girl Is A Slut,which turns out to be even more appalling than its title.

Roosh, you see, has figured out a simple one-question test to determine the sluttiness of any woman. Let’s let him explain:

Many girls go to great lengths to hide their slutty past, knowing deep down the low value it conveys for being a suitable long-term partner, but there is one easy indicator that should tell you beyond a reasonable doubt whether she is a slut or not.

Has she lived on her own?

I believe my response to this is best illustrated by the following video of Don Draper saying “what?”

Let me just add:

HAS SHE LIVED ON HER OWN?

Are you exclusively dating high school girls?

If she’s an adult, or at least an adult somewhere in the vicinity of your own age, OF COURSE SHE’S LIVED ON HER OWN.

Yes, yes, I know, given this economy it’s true that some young people – mostly young men – are living at home a little longer these days than in the past, but the overwhelming majority have moved out by their mid-twenties. You’re 35 years old, dude.

Roosh continues:

If she has lived away from her parents for more than a year, she has—at the minimum—slept with many men whose last names she did not know, including one-night stands that did not involve condoms.

Dude, do you even know the first names of the women you sleep with? And haven’t you bragged endlessly about how you “raw dog it” with women? Weren’t you “raw dogging it” even when you were afraid you had AIDS? (Those are rhetorical questions; I already know that the answers are yes, and yes.)

An “independent” girl, removed from the constraints of a nuclear family home and its rules, curfew, and the concern of good parents, will allow the slutty dick gobbler within her to be released.

Women engaging in consensual sex that they enjoy … with someone else? THE END OF THE WORLD. Raping women who are too drunk to consent? According to Roosh himself, it’s “what I do.”

In other words, a natural-born slut who lives on her own will have far more sexual partners than if she lives with parents of average skill who require their daughter to be home by midnight.

Amazing deduction, Sherlock. And if she’s a nun, she’ll probably be having even less sex. The question is: why are you, as 35 year old man, regularly pursuing women young enough to live with their parents?

Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things, but give a woman this same freedom and she fully embraces the whore lifestyle, unable to stop from getting her fill of cock.

Really? Here are some young men who have recently started living on their own; I’m not sure that what they are doing could really be described as a “great thing.” (Content Warning: Drunk dudes hitting each other in the head with boards.)

If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3. If she has lived on campus in college for four years and then moved to a large city for two more, you can rest assured she’s had over 15 cocks in her vagina, and god knows how many more in her mouth.

Not that anyone’s worth is determined by how many penises they’ve had in their vagina, or anywhere else, but I feel I should note that these figures, clearly pulled from the  Journal of Roosh’s Own Ass, are completely wrong.

According to people who’ve actually studied human sexuality, his number is just a teensy bit high. And by “teensy” I mean they’re off by an order of magnitude. According to one 2005 study, women in their 30s and early 40s report that they’ve had only 4 male sexual partners, on average, not the 36 to 78 that Roosh’s formula would predict for women who move out on their own at the age of 18 to go to college.

There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a slut and should proceed accordingly by escorting her home and asking if you can use her bathroom. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.

Yeah, that’s really … creepy. You lie to get into her home, then proceed as if, as a slut, she’s already consented to sex?

You may be thinking the following: “Many Western girls live alone, at least 50%. Does that mean that over 50% of American girls are sluts?” That’s exactly what it means. Independence in women drives them to disempowering sexual behaviors that oppose motherly or wife behaviors. You must be skeptical of girls who have lived alone if you want a serious relationship.

At least if you want a relationship with a creepy, judgmental asshole who thinks like Roosh.

[T]here is absolutely no need for a girl to be independent by living alone without a husband unless you want her holes to be used as a real-life enactment of 50 Shades Of Grey by many strange men.

Well, that is, if you assume that 1) all women can magically find men, whether their father or a husband, who will pay all their bills and  2) Roosh’s opinions about any given woman’s sexual life matter more than the opinions of the woman herself.

If you end up having a daughter of your own, I highly recommend you limit her financial independence before she finds a husband. Refrain from giving her Think & Grow Rich advice that would be better suited for your son. Otherwise, she’ll become a slut who gives it up to any man who dances a good clown jig.

So: prepare your daughter to be dependent for her very existence on dudes who think like Roosh.

That may be the worst parenting advice I’ve ever heard. Then again, it’s from Roosh.

300 replies on “Pickup guru Roosh V: Unmarried women who don't live with their parents are sluts”

There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a slut and should proceed accordingly by escorting her home and asking if you can use her bathroom. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.

The “must” here is really screwing with me. It lends such a hilarious sense of urgency and dread to the sentence. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men. Wonderful.

This is sensational… And by sensational, I mean appalling, hilarious and disquieting.
I thought that ‘slutty dick gobbler’ was a especially epic… The exact science, careful consideration and compelling logic astound me with their overwhelming and undeniable absence. Roosh V, I salute you as a complete and utter shitbag.

So, wait.
4 years of college + 2 years of living in a large city = 6 years.
6 years x 3 = “over 15 cocks in her vagina”

This sounds like it would simplify math class. “You see, professor, I rounded to the nearest easily multiplied number and then added ‘over’ or ‘under’ to my answer.”

Is the multiplier different for college women? Or women living in small cities? What about women who aren’t living in a city at all, but rather a small town?

https://michelleclarkepc.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/confused-cat1.jpg

If she has lived away from her parents for more than a year, she has—at the minimum—slept with many men whose last names she did not know

If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3.

So… by “many men whose last names she did not know” Roosh means “as many as three.”

What if a girl lives with a room-mate? Do they provide checks on each other’s slutty slut slut behavior, or is there a multiplication factor? Is it only a parent or a husband that works? Inquiring minds… don’t give a shit.

This is grotesque, especially coming from a man who purposesly goes out and has sex with as many women as possible. Maybe Roosh needs a wife to keep his impulses in check. Actually, scratch that. He needs to go live with his parents.

@Viscaria:

Exactly. Over a decade, that adds up to 30 anonymous men. That’s as much as ten threes. And that’s terrible.

Do you think the real way people like this decide whether a woman is a slut or not is by whether she’ll report to them how many people she’s slept with or not? ‘You think your sex life is your own business? SLUT!!!!!1!’

Ugh. Robin Williams is dead and this guy is still alive wasting oxygen that might be inhaled by puppies and kittens.

I don’t know where to begin. I’d like to be introduced to all the single men living alone who do all these “great things” because, as Roosh seems to suggest, men living alone are great — just because, OK? And…yeah. Just point some out to me, fella.

And once again, these idiots refer to lady parts as “holes” and pretend (or don’t realize any better) it’s possible for these areas to be over “used.” I’m not virgin shaming, but maybe you shouldn’t pretend to know anything about female anatomy when your only experience is looking at porn. Like, every time you chew food you’re using your mouth, duder. Aren’t you afraid your jaw muscles are going to become floppy and sloppy? Do you get it, idiot?

So, wait. A woman sleeping with three people a year is awful, but when a man goes a few weeks without being laid he’s an incel?

Also, just…seriously arguing women having money and not leeching off men is awful, but when women depend on men for complete financial support, that is also awful.

You just hate women. You just hate women.

OK so I’ve lived away from my parents for 15 years. 2.5 of those years I had a roommate, otherwise I have lived (blissfully) alone. I had a couple pet fish for a bit (*sniff* RIP Irving, Sokka and Zuko) but no cats, for the record.

Never in that entire time have I had sex. Not once. None. Nada. Niente. Not even while on vacation away from my slut-den single-person abode.

So my mere existence proves Douche is so full of shit he reeks even over the internet.

@kirbywarp:

Exactly. Over a decade, that adds up to 30 anonymous men. That’s as much as ten threes. And that’s terrible.

Oh god. I needed that laugh. Thanks, kirb, and praise her.

The elephant in the room with the whole slut-shaming posturing that Roosh does, is that his only problem with women slutting it out is that they’re doing it with people that are not himself.

Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things

This is hilarious coming from Roosh. Apparently having a blog and banging (or raping) lots of women are “great things”?

Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.

If it weren’t for the admitted rapes, I could almost feel sorry for the guy at this point. Men, you don’t have to have sex with someone just because they’re willing.

You must be skeptical of girls who have lived alone if you want a serious relationship.

Since when does Roosh want a serious relationship?

“You just hate women. You just hate women…”

Karak, I counln’t agree more. Roosh the Douche can claim he just wants to help his Fellow men get laid or that he’s simply “telling it like it is” all he wants but it’s bullshit. complete and utter bullshit. He’s not an ingenious troll nor does he care about helping anyone.

He’s just a pathetic fool who hates women and a shitty human being.

The irony of wanting to have sex with someone you find utterly despicable and/or worthless and disgusting – this is escaping him, yes?

What’s also escaping him is what that attitude says he thinks about himself.

And for the record, I’m a grown ass woman ,so I know he can’t possibly be addressing this little diatribe to someone like me. As a grown ass woman ,I’ll do with my body parts whatever I damn well please and to Hell with what someone like him thinks about it.

My wife lost count of the number of people she slept with once it got over 100, which by Roosh’s “analysis” would put her firmly in the “slut” category (or maybe “super-slut” or “uber-slut” or “some-other-prefix-slut”).

And yet, somehow, we’ve been married for more than 15 years, and she’s one of the best spouses and mothers I’ve ever seen – to the extent that most of our friends with children regularly ask her for parenting advice. She is, in every way, a fantastic long-term partner.

It’s almost like Roosh doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about….

So basically he only wants to date women who were raised in Dominionist cults and not allowed to live away from their parents until marriage? Because I don’t think those kinds of families would approve of their daughter dating a pick-up guru.

This site tracks numerous repulsive misogynists who seem to be in a contest to outdo each other with their seething hatred, but time and time again, it is Roosh V who causes me the most primal disgust.

It’s that same kind of visceral ew feeling that you get when you step on a bug, isn’t it? Which is part of why I’m convinced that none of his tales of sexual conquest are true. Who could stand being around him for long enough to have sex?

And it’s almost like, deep down, he doesn’t want other men having actual relationships with women — based on his freaky criteria of what constitutes a worthy female. Hmmmm.

Nah, I like bugs. I feel bad when I step on them. Roosh is more like the repulsion I feel when… when you simply stare into seething, swirling mass of toxic sewage and the fumes rise all around you, stinging your eyes and threatening to burn our your lungs. I haven’t actually done that, but thanks to Roosh I think I know what it must feel like.

It’s like he’s one of those people who doesn’t believe that sexual orientation is innate and he’s mounting a campaign attempting to turn all straight women into lesbians.

Men like Roosh make me feel really uncomfortable as a lesbian, especially with the way they talk so explicitly about the sexual acts that they think all women are obsessed with. It’s not their talk about “cocks” since I really don’t care about the bits that women have, but rather about their really gross assumption that all women secretly want to have sex with men. It really hits home for me because I spent years agonizing as a result of forcing myself to be attracted to men.

Also, I don’t know what Roosh is talking about in regards to women away from home. I not only live away from parents, but I also ran away from my dad. I should be among the sluttiest, according to his logic. And yet I have never done anything sexual with anyone. My avoidance of sex is partly my choice and partly motivated by trauma. I don’t want to have sex with anyone unless I can be assured that the other person won’t hurt me or try to violate my boundaries. So yeah, Roosh can go fuck himself.

I’m so sorry Ally S. You shouldn’t worry about them, no one should. They are in the wrong not you or others.
I’m scared of sex myself and I have been hurt by my father. We really shouldn’t listen to what any of these monsters say instead we should make fun of them and hope that they just stay out of society and not hurt anyone.

If you end up having a daughter of your own, I highly recommend you limit her financial independence before she finds a husband.

Apparently Douche doesn’t realize that once children turn 18 parents don’t have the legal right to control their finances. What century does he think we’re living in?

@fruitloopsie

I’m trying not to listen to them. It’s hard to ignore them though because straight dudes have ruined sex for me so much that I have a hard time envisioning even a safe relationship with another girl.

Hello. I’m new, having recently discovered the manosphere and all of its deep, dark caverns of utter depravity, and I need to rant a bit … for which I apologize in advance.

Firstly, I want to say that my sanity is very happy for finding this site shortly after stumbling into the manosphere. But I don’t know how you can have any sort of discussion with these manospherians without going completely mad. I made the mistake of responding to a blog written by a Mr. Grey who was mentioned in the comments of another post on this site. His blog doesn’t have a lot of activity (thankfully), and I thought I could have a reasonable discussion with him if there weren’t numerous other misogynists backing his claims or ganging up on me. Oh dear Lord was I wrong… I’ll admit that I was a wee bit snarky, and I probably shouldn’t have been. In response to my one of two short comments, he wrote a lengthy blog post about how I’m a “plugged in beta male” who is only criticizing him to seek the approval of the women folk. (TRIGGER) He also suggested that I try spanking women without first asking them because the womenz don’t know what they want … I guess? I declined to respond to Mr. Grey’s arguments, but I said I’d like to meet him and his “partner” in person. He probably won’t accept that offer considering his “partner” is most likely a work of fiction.

I’ve only seen delusions this strong in clinical narcissists, and I’ve had more reasonable discussions with legit narcissists. Where do these ideas come from? How does this happen to someone? I just … don’t understand … 🙁

The entire post is repulsive garbage but more or less standard fare from this particular source. But for some reason this quote jumped out at me.

“Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things, but give a woman this same freedom and she fully embraces the whore lifestyle, unable to stop from getting her fill of cock.”

This is such a standard line from the manosphere. Men gave the world fire! And the wheel! And civilization! We built the railroads and created democracy! Built nations and created culture etc etc. All men are capable of great things. And of course by extension women aren’t and are just cultural parasites but that’s a different conversation.

From PUAs to MRMs to “super studly alphas” to MGTOWs or whatever other ridiculous labels they want to give themselves they all assert that men who have taken the red pill are all capable of such great things.

So here’s my big question. Where are the successful manospherians? Where are the anti feminist men holding up society on their broad shoulders? Where is the MRM/PUA/MGTOW with a pulitzer prize, a best selling book, a congressional seat, a landmark scientific discovery, a wildly successful business a groundbreaking invention?

And for the record, things that qualify as great contributions to society don’t include:

– Posting online about your sperm being liquid gold
– Moving to a third world country and taking up with a poor women half your age that you mistreat
– Calling people whores on twitter
– “Going your own way” by spending your free time trolling people’s videos on YouTube
– Filling up half a VFW hall for a conference
– Spending your time on a website devoted to “game” and “banging sluts”

and so on. For all of the talk about how men are capable of great things I haven’t seen any of these guys actually DO anything of real relevance.

“Slutty dick gobbler” sounds like a D&D creature.

(That’s really all I have to add here, because Roosh being an abhorrent mushroom is no longer surprising.)

@ cassandrakitty — that’s exactly the conundrum I’ve noticed about these pickup artist types. They seem to want women who are abiding by Quiverfull or some other extreme Christian patriarchy doctrine… who are also, somehow, going out to bars ready to be “picked up” by sleazeballs such as themselves.

Sorry, those things don’t actually go together.

It’s the perfect little MRA/PUA tale: then they can cry that all these slutty sluts are having sex with only 1% of the men (all the men who bought Roosh’s book ‘raw dogging it in northwestern Greenland’, of course). All the other men are being ‘denied’ sex by all these insatiable sex beasts (women).
Every bullshit story is in every bullshit story in the whimsical manosphere.

What is it with these guys and this double standard? They devote their lives to “game” and having sex with lots of women and they’re awesome. They get their value from the number of women they have sex with.
But women? If they want to have sex with 3 different men in a year, they’re horrible. Expressions about geese and ganders and glass houses come to mind.

I mean, if I wanted to meet a conservative guy, I wouldn’t be trawling bars for him. You know? Logic, give it a try.

There are also plenty of people who just don’t have the resources to support their adult children indefinitely, no matter how much they might want to help — but I guess that doesn’t pose a big problem for Roosh, since he thinks girls should be married off by 18.

Why is Doosh even typing about serious relationships when he’s the wannabe king of fucking and running?

Has he ever even had a relationship that lasted for any length of time? It’s like asking someone who’s never driven a car to teach you how to drive.

Roosh manages to be one of the most consistently adept manosphere writers at the art of accidental self-revelation. As noted, his belief that you should always have sex when available (as a guy), no matter how low your opinion of your potential partner, says so very, very much about just how wretched a piece of slime he really is.

@Tessa
I agree about the double standard. The thing that always bothers me is not just that these men go out to try and sleep with as many women as possible while women are stigmatized for such behavior. No, what really gets me is that, last time I checked, sex requires at least 2 people. So who exactly are these PUAs having sex with?

Also, I’m going to hypothesize that the reason Roosh doesn’t like independent women is because we can see through his schemes and won’t give him what he wants (because he’s a misogynist jerk).

I did get a good laugh from this though. I choked on my tea when I got to his little “equation.” My result from that is about 15x higher than my actual number.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.