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Bride of the Monster: The Red Pill Subreddit creates Red Pill Women

He's kino escalating, but that is clearly NOT an indicator of interest.
He’s kino escalating, but she’s not giving him any Indicators of Interest.

So you all remember The Red Pill subreddit, that wretched hive of scum and misogyny I wrote about the other day, and the other other day, and the other other other day before that. Well, now something even more horrible has sprouted up on Reddit, like genital warts after a night “raw dogging it” with a PUA douchebag.

It’s a new subreddit from the Red Pill masterminds called Red Pill Women.

But wait, you say, isn’t The Red Pill subreddit all about manipulating and exploiting women sexually and generally just being misogynistic douchebags generally? What on earth might a Red Pill subreddit have to offer women?

In a 1400-word “welcome” statement, RedPillSchool, the subreddit’s top mod, tries to explain why the ladies might want to join up.

He starts by laying down some biotruths, by which I mean that he repeats the standard-issue manosphere fairy tale about men and women and the cock carousel:

A man’s biological imperative is to procreate. Some men (the few– less than 20%) are very attractive to women and may take on as many partners as he can. There’s no telling if he’ll stick around to help with the young, but rest assured he’ll make the rounds. Other men aren’t as attractive are happy being providers. This is a majority of men. They want to settle down, have a family. Their biological impulses, believe it or not, is to make a woman happy. It’s both a feature, and as we’ve discovered on /r/theredpill, one of man’s biggest weaknesses.

A woman’s biological imperative is to procreate. (We’re not so different!) Her strategy is slightly different. She wants provisions, but she also wants the highest quality DNA to procreate with. Unfortunately for guys, this sometimes ends up with women having sex with one of the attractive but noncommittal men, and then finding another man to do the provisioning. Her strategy is two-fold: have sex with the highest value males as possible, and get commitment from the highest value males possible. If possible: get both in one man. If not, get both from separate men.

As for those accusastions of misogyny, RedPillSchool responds with a big “nuh-uh!”

It isn’t. The red pill is about accepting reality for what it is. As you’ve seen above, men and women’s mating strategies are at odds with each other, and a lot of men on /r/theredpill are a bit angry. But they’re not angry because this is reality. They’re angry because they spent a majority of their lives being told that this isn’t reality, and putting them at a severe disadvantage.

Oh, so they don’t hate women. They’re just jusifiably angry at them.

Once we embrace what reality is, we find our relationships to be more successful, more fulfilling, and a better deal for ourselves and for the women we’ve dated. We’ve concentrated on what women like, and by doing so have been able to make ourselves into mates that women would want.

Yeah, women love dudes who spend all their time online talking about how awful women are.

So what do Red Pill men want women to do for them?

Sorry, I meant, what can the Red Pill Women subreddit help women to do that will be just fantastic for them, the women?

Well, the past half a century was the march of feminism telling women that they don’t need to do anything for men, that they are perfect and don’t need to change, that change or compromise is oppression, and that you can have it all. A career, kids, family, education- it’s all yours.

The problem is that our culture ended up self indulgent with no long-term goals, and thusly- no long term happiness (at least where family is concerned).

With divorce rates skyrocketing, single motherhood increasing, never-marrieds piling up, and hook-up culture and one night stands at an all time high, people are reaching 35 going.. where’s my family?

Huh. Taking the Red Pill must really do something to your eyesight, because the divorce rate has been heading downwards for the last thirty years.

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But let’s just ignore the false premise here and continue on:

Women, you have the ability to find happiness when you embrace the reality of your biological urges and impulses. You have the ability and the requirement to become the optimal mate for your optimal mate. Do not believe the hype that you are good enough how you are, and realize that in life, the only things worth having take work.

Oh dear. So what sort of “self-improvement” advice will the subreddit contain? Apparently, a lot of misogynistic insults. Oh, sorry, harsh truths.

This forum will embarce truth first and foremost, sensitivity be damned. While I encourage people to remain positive towards each other, plain insults are discouraged, I understand that sometimes the truth will seem like an insult.

Ok, so who exactly is qualified to give advice on RedPill women?

RedPillWomen is not the place for men to show up and spout nonsense.

Ok, but you’re a man, and you’re spouting nonsense.

We have an unofficial rule on  /r/theredpill that basically amounts to: don’t listen to women about sexual strategy. It’s not that we don’t like women, it’s that women really have a hard time seeing past what they like to understand men have a different palate.

Um, what? Why would this mean that you shouldn’t listen to women?

The same goes for men, perhaps even worse so. Men, being the less discriminating gender, are more-or-less programmed to find women sexy.. no matter what. And when a woman says, “I like to eat pie with my fingers” you’ll have sex-thirsty guys line up out the door willing to say anything for female validation. “I love women who eat with their fingers.”

Wait, did I wander into the wrong subreddit? Why are we talking about pie?

Men will say anything for female validation. Men are utterly and completely blind when it comes to what attracts them. They are clueless. They are conditioned by society to tell you that things we’re supposed to find attractive are attractive. And why not? In our minds, if I find you attractive, and you exhibit certain qualities, it’s hard to isolate which qualities were the ones we found attractive.

Huh?

But you’re not looking for low-hanging-fruit.

Now we’re on to fruit? Was RedPillSchool just really hungry when he wrote this?

You could just walk into a bar with no clothes if you want to make men drool. But instead, you want to make yourself into the woman who will snag the highest value mate. You want to redefine high value to mean longest-term happiness. And you don’t want just any old schmo to drool over you. So don’t take schmo’s advice. It’s terrible.

RedPillSchool, I served with Joe Schmo. I knew Joe Schmo. Joe Schmo was a friend of mine. RedPillSchool, you’re no Joe Schmo.

Welcome! I hope this will be a productive place to discuss sexual strategy for women.

I can’t wait to see what sort of “sexual strategy” these guys advocate. Maybe we can assemble a list of some of the best suggestions.

Meanwhile, that white supremacist dude who thinks that women who hate the Red Pill dudes are all secretly into them — that guy I wrote about the other day — is already excited to see a subreddit of Red Pill “cheerleaders.”

It looks like TheRedPill Mannerbund, which at first only attracted TheBluePill hecklers, has now attracted some cheerleaders.

Perhaps a sorority forming next to the fraternity.

Notice TheRedPill kept the women out (at least female centric opinion, since this is virtual space) and now we see the reaction: submit and service.

My opponents of course could only interpret “service” as sexual, which is was partly but not completely. The women are no longer heckling the mannerbund, but have adopted the mannerbund’s agenda – they have become cheerleaders.

What he doesn’t know is that one of those cheerleaders is me — I just subscribed. Let’s see if they notice and ban me.

The Blue Pill squad is on the case as well, with a bunch of posts devoted to this exciting new development.

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inurashii
inurashii
8 years ago

what even

CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1)

David Futrelle

What is it that you think is the primary motivation for self hating women like this?

By the way, that’s the perfect picture for this post. Red Pill Women = Bride of Frankenstein

Yellaine
Yellaine
8 years ago

Wait…. I’m lost. What’s the difference between the blue and the red pill again? (and is the red pill for priapism?)

Howard Bannister
8 years ago

For some reason I just couldn’t stop laughing. I mean, the misogyny is so obvious… hey, ladeez! Don’t listen to those guys. LISTEN TO ME! Now form sexual strategies as I tell you to!

And they just think they’re doing women SUCH A FAVOR.

God’s gift to women. (after that whole ‘pain in childbirth’ thing)

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
8 years ago

Notice TheRedPill kept the women out (at least female centric opinion, since this is virtual space) and now we see the reaction: submit and service.

I see. If men let women into any space they want, the women will inevitably chew up peoples’ shoes, poop on the carpet, and growl at the mail carrier. Luckily, we have the woman whisperer at the red pill woman subreddit to train us how to be calm during walks and even do some fun tricks.

How many women will actually go to this subreddit anyway? I figure it will be about 95% guys who go there to yell at woman for not being pretty or submissive enough.

Here is yet another reason I stay away from reddit, even though there are some nice subreddits like SRS.

Howard Bannister
8 years ago

What is it that you think is the primary motivation for self hating women like this?

There are a lot of rewards in place for this kind of behavior. See Ann Coulter or Phyllis Schachfly.

armondikov
8 years ago

Well, that’s just f**king creepy…

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
8 years ago

This makes me think of a lame and cheesy bachelor pad.

Also, even sports teams recognized “shrink it and pink it” is a failed marketing strategy to attract women. Plus, why would you give away your strategies when you are trying to trick women into sleeping with you?

There is so much fail, I don’t … what?

Yellaine
Yellaine
8 years ago

I don’t understand what’s all that. But in doubt I gave my advice on the latest subject; hair. Always here for the sisterhood.

Jain
8 years ago

The hilarious bits:

RedPill claims sexual strategy is ‘amoral.’ Then claims that women want good DNA and a provider.

Then they delete and ban anyone asking how to convince a good provider he’s the father, while continuing to see the real father on the side.

“Sexual strategy” is apparently not about getting what you want (for women), it’s about accepting your correct place in the world (subservient to men). Thus making the world better (for men) and everyone happier (if they’re men).

thecategoricalhousewife

Actually MRA’s hate housewives, so technically they are “blue pill” women. My guess is that they want affirmation and attention from the MRA’s. Kind of reminds of women who seek to ‘change’ their men. That is what they are doing, by being doormats they think they will stop the MRA hateful ways.

Howard Bannister
8 years ago

“Sexual strategy” is apparently not about getting what you want (for women), it’s about accepting your correct place in the world (subservient to men). Thus making the world better (for men) and everyone happier (if they’re men).

This is an accurate summation of all MRA stuff everywhere.

CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1)

@Howard Bannister

In response to what I wrote,
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What is it that you think is the primary motivation for self hating women like this?
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You wrote
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There are a lot of rewards in place for this kind of behavior. See Ann Coulter or Phyllis Schachfly.
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Good point!

Yellaine
Yellaine
8 years ago

So I’m reading advice, and it’s a bit confusing. This woman had twelve lovers, and wonders if she should lie about it. The answer is that:
– no, because that would make her a lying whore (I’m not quoting directly) and the truth always comes out so she will destroy the man’s heart, not because of the number but because of the lie
– good men will probably think she’s a slut because of that double digit number. so… take back you’re virginity (idk how that works, but iirc it involves magic swimming pool. All the hip in ancient Greece)

But I think this lady should pinpoint her problem more precisely (the doubleness of her number), which will lead to to easy solution:
– lie, but just a bit. Say 9. What are the odd of him finding out the exact number? And even if he does, you can still plead a small math error
– fuck the decimal system, and go hexa. Magic! Now you haven’t had 12 lovers, you had C ones!

GreySky
GreySky
8 years ago

Women, you have the ability to find happiness when you embrace the reality of your biological urges and impulses

And my biological imperative is fucking as many highly attractive men as possible, yes? I’ll get right on it.

Also, I’m quite fascinated that the male genes for less attractive appearance are somehow linked with the genes for wanting to make a woman happy – perhaps someone with a more scientific background could explain this to me?
And if this is true, then women don’t actually have to do anything for men – at least not the less attractive ones – they want to do for us. Or something.

chibigodzilla
8 years ago

the standard-issue manosphere fairy tale about men and women and the cock carousel

But David, I have photographic evidence of the alpha cock carousel:comment image

Look at him there (in the middle) with those hypergamous slut hens.

GreySky
GreySky
8 years ago

Then they delete and ban anyone asking how to convince a good provider he’s the father, while continuing to see the real father on the side.

Really they did that? But isn’t it the ultimate female sexual strategy, following our biological imperative and all?
And here I was, thinking they were unbiased.

frilledshark
8 years ago

“Mannerbund”? What’s with the random German?

Jessay (@jessay)
8 years ago

If this has already been written about, my apologies. I haven’t been keeping up. But have you guys seen the rape guide that has been overfunded on kickstarter?

http://feministing.com/2013/06/19/demand-kickstarter-remove-guide-to-sexual-assault/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

seraph4377
8 years ago

Yellaine – It’s a Matrix reference. In the movie, if you were contacted by the Resistance, they offered you a red pill and a blue pill. If you took the blue pill, you woke up in your bed, they never contacted you again, and you could believe whatever you liked. If you took the red pill, you learned the Truth (that you’d been living in a computer-controlled dreamworld your entire life, and that the pill you’d just swallowed was a program that would wake you up and allow them to find your real body).

The reference they’re making, then, is that they’ve “taken the red pill”, which allows them to wake up and see the real world (namely that women are hypergamous whores who should submit to men to make the world happy). The Blue Pill Subreddit was started to oppose and mock them.

Xen
Xen
8 years ago

Where’s the science behind these lies? None! It’s just some angry guy who wants others to suffer with him.

Thanks for the divorce rates David.

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
8 years ago

I found their guide on how to dress

The advice here is for mature women in marriages, most likely with kids in the house. You want to be sophisticated and classy, but this has the danger of being sexless and unfeminine. You want to be sexy and feminine, but this has the potential to be cheap and tawdry. Aim to hit the sweet spot between classy, sophisticated, feminine, and sexy. But remember, your man’s opinion is of utmost importance, and since you are probably undoing decades of bad advice, emphasize the feminine. To offer a crash course in Red Pill attire is to simply say throw out all your pants, flats, t-shirts, and boring underwear. (Of course you can keep a pair of jeans around for gardening and the like). This is not to be tawdry and sleazy (although there is a place for that in the bedroom). Definitely emphasize your curves. The outfit should hint at what’s beneath, but not give away the candy store for free. Nor does it mean wearing towering stilettos constantly. There are plenty of comfortable feminine shoes with a low blocky heel. Within this range, there is an enormous variety of ways to express yourself and be creative.

So you get that, women? Dress sexy, but not slutty! Dress modest, but not frumpy! The commenters were in agreement that women should just wear sundresses with kitten heel shoes.

Apparently some straight men weren’t at the red pill meeting to find out they all have the same tastes in what women wear. One woman said her husband likes her wearing punk clothes with tattoos showing, wild makeup, and blue hair. The other red pill women were like “No, he’s incorrect, but you can go with a steam punk look because that’s more modest”. One even said wear sundresses in public and punk rock clothes in private.

Now if I threw out all of my jeans, capri pants, t-shirts, tennis shoes, flip flops, and Fruit of the Loom underwear, I’d be left with two things—the dress I wear to funerals and the outfit I wear to weddings. I hate sundresses because they show bra straps, they are impractical for doing chores around the house, and they are usually made of such a thin material you need a slip underneath. If other people like them, that’s fine, but they’re not my thing.

thekidwiththereplaceablehead

The only “red pill woman” I’ve ever really encountered on the internet turned out to be an actual Nazi. Like, she became a vegan because Hitler. Her beliefs were so kooky that she sort of warped into harmlessness. For instance, she hated non-white immigrants, but her bf was a Kurdish immigrant because: technically Aryan.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

It looks like TheRedPill Mannerbund, which at first only attracted TheBluePill hecklers, has now attracted some cheerleaders.

So, um, are any of these cheerleaders women?

Xen
Xen
8 years ago

Speaking of Aryans, it turns out there wasn’t an Aryan invasion of India after all: http://mylivingthought.blogspot.com/2007/01/aryans-indo-iranian-theory-proved-wrong.html

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