Hey, hostile visitors! Do you have an opinion about, for example, Mary Koss’ rape research? Do you want to discuss it even though the topic has not actually come up by itself in any of the threads and none of my recent posts really have much to do with the specifics of anyone’s rape research? Well, from now on you can discuss it here with anyone who wishes to follow you to this thread.
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This also applies to future derailers riding hobbyhorses of their own having nothing to do with Koss.
Happy discussing!
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I notice about these mra sympathizers who claim to be all about just wanting equality is that their arguments seem to boil down to “Let’s just stop analyzing systematic institutionalized oppression of groups that have historically been marginalized by society and just say that everybody has it equally bad (but really straight white cis males have it the worst of all, if you think about it)”.
My assholery meter is off the charts. Get the fuck out of here, GNL.
And I’m sending good thoughts your way, LBT.
Honestly, “people no longer comment on my looks” struck me as potentially positive. He’s no longer getting comments about looking like a girl = holy shit this is great (well, maybe it’s just me since omfgs biology why do you hate me?!)
Also, GNL: I wonder if you’ve ever listened to the perspectives of countless trans* women, who have zero appreciation for the street harassment and “attention” they receive when they are read as cis female.
I’m sure you haven’t, though. Because you’re a cissexist shithead.
Of course…
“…the biological reality of the burden of pregnancy. What benefits should men rightly get that reflect these biological realities”
Burden of pregancy, it’s a benefit!
*gags*
Don’t you know, Argenti? Cis women are privileged with the burden of pregnancy because they’re the LIFE-GIVERS! Or something like that.
Dude seriously thinks of abortion as “the right to kill people” and thinks it’s unfair that he, with his greater upper body strength, doesn’t have that right too.
My brother tells me that there are a bunch of moderate MRAs out there. I wonder where they are! Because I still have yet to see an MRA who isn’t an awful human being.
Speaking of brothers, mine’s back from Cali and I asked him if what he was reading us about the risks of circumcision and bodily autonomy (not in those words) was from MRA websites. He had no idea what I was talking about.
Thus proving that it is possible for a non-feminist man to support actual men’s issues, but not be an MRA. Actually, it probably isn’t possible to be an MRA and support actual men’s issues, but I’ll buy that some of them are legitimately against circumcision and don’t go all “but female circumcision has you all concerned!!”
Aaliyah — fuck, that’s probably it. The burden of pregnancy is the privilege of *barf* deciding who lives and who dies. (“And no one should have that kind of power”…yes more Doctor Who quotes…that one applies if, you know, we were talking about actual people)
And I’m basically falling asleep at the keyboard, I’ll be going soon. Need to sort some things first, like my bed being covered in paperwork.
Oh, get the fuck out of my face with this bullshit. No, it wouldn’t rebalancee a damn thing, but you MRA fuckwads sure would be paying more of that child support you fuckers keep whining about. Just say you want to control women, you asswipe.
Farrell’s a feminist? On what fucking planet?
Hey Marie, I’m making spanikopita(sp? ) today. Can j make any in advance to be cooked when needed as I’m pretty busy with kids and life and my quietest times of the day are mid afternoon.so I like to prep dinner then so I can be free for homework/lunchbox making and generally cleaning up behind the kids in preparation for bath and bed.
Argenti – “Honestly, “people no longer comment on my looks” struck me as potentially positive. He’s no longer getting comments about looking like a girl = holy shit this is great (well, maybe it’s just me since omfgs biology why do you hate me?!)”
That was exactly how I read it, and I’m cishet, or as near as dammit, anyway. (I always think of cis meaning “comfortable in skin” which I know it doesn’t, but I can never remember the actual derivation and can’t always be stuffed Googling it.)
Given the source of this story, I’m right on the edge of doing the wrong thing and filing it in the usual MRM shitthatneverhappened folder.
You are an asshole. Cis-women are seen as the access to fertility or w/e because lots of us can have babies. Lots of us don’t want to at the moment. Ergo, we need birth control. Sorry if our controlling our own bodies hurts men’s fee-fees
You used one year numbers because they fit your pet issue To be fair, I guess you’re in the right thread
and they’ve been around a long time. I know this not at all from my experiences writing a smutty story in pseudo-historical land.
FTFY
Fuck off, troll boy. Earlier I might have indulged you a little, but after the warren farrel posts in which he clearly demonstrates a lack of human empathy for women and male rape victims, all I can say is you do not know the definition of “feminist” or “controversial”
Sexism against women: 1/5 of them get a horrible, inhumane crime commited against them.
Sexism against men: less than 1 percent get accused of commiting a horrible, inhumane crime.
Things Warren Farrel thinks are like rape for men:
The military draft (which most feminists are against)
Being unemployed
Not getting sex on a date
Being mildly inconvenienced
Just QFTing. Half the MRA is whining about “why can’t we control eeevvveryyything anymore?”
Well, most MRAs seem to be narcissistic to a rather notable degree, and I guess for a narcissist getting less attention would be painful even if the attention that they had been getting was unpleasant.
Hey did you know that water is the driest substance in the universe?
@Kittehs
I looked it up. According to google
According to wikipedia, cis means “on the side of” too
Now, according to some… idk what awful site…
EXTREME TW TRANSPHOBIA FUCKERY
I also like as in hate how trans* people aren’t trans* people, they’re “trans”. Period. No identifiers. (there is more fuckery at the link, but it is… super fuckery. Do not click unless you want to lose your faith in humanity some more)
I don’t believe in God. This makes me very religious.
This is the most amusing instance of the etymological fallacy I have ever seen. And they didn’t even get the literal meaning right. Nor do they have any knowledge of basic morphosematics.*
*I finally got to use that word!!
RE: Kittehserf, Aaliyah, and Argenti
There are enough people in the world that I’m sure SOMEONE misses the attention they got pre-transition, but I personally don’t know any. Because, like Argenti, for me not getting sexually harassed so much was a nice bonus.
NGL is going about this all the wrong way. You don’t try and take birth control AWAY from people. You just give MORE birth control to the people who don’t. Or get to work on making freaking artificial wombs.
@Fade – Cis means chopping women up? That’s a new one to me! Wow, to think how many knives and hatchets and whatnot all the cis women on this site have missed flying through teh intertubes. JohntheOtter doesn’t know the half of being in terribul terribul danger. /snark
Wiki makes it pretty clear that it’s “on the side of” as you mentioned, and is simply the Latin-based antonym of “trans”. Which somehow doesn’t seem to be anything anyone needs to get worked up about. One’s assigned sex and gender align with zies identity … a word to describe this is offensive how, exactly? Oy. ::smh::
“I know this not at all from my experiences writing a smutty story in pseudo-historical land.”
I like the way they were called French letters in England and English hoods in France. Plus that Louis XV (Mr K’s great-great grandson, and the king in The Girl In The Fireplace for all you Whovians) used to order them by the gross from England. He and Queen Marie had a big family and he had no desire to have even more kids with his mistresses. Strange to think how an 18th century man, a complete hedonist at that, could figure out that there was a pretty simple (if not that reliable, then) method to avoid unwanted children and child support, but these geniuses of the MRM just whine that it’s all too difficult …
RE: Fade
I didn’t even TOUCH “the cotton ceiling” (it’s a concept that makes me want to vomit blood), but dear GOD, why are people so bitchy about ‘cis’? I don’t know where this bullcrap about ‘comfortable in skin’ or ‘cut’ comes from, when it’s so fucking easy to just Google trans 101 and find it, but no, it means ‘on the side of.’ WTF.
Man, some cis people freak the fuck out over the terrifying concept that they can’t just be ‘normal.’
But the anti-trans women’s movement makes me scream locusts.
LBT – strikes me that this person might be one of those outliers that MRAs love talking about.
“Outliers” keeps translating into my head as “out(right)liars” where MRAs are concerned. Funny, that.
Most definitely. I’m read as male these days and I never get sexually harassed. I’m sure things will change for the worse once I transition.
In what Latin dictionary did they find that load of crap?!
Cis: preposition: ON THIS SIDE OF, WITHIN, DURING, ON THE NEAR SIDE OF
Trans, as is probably common knowledge from shit like “transatlantic” means across. So cis is the complementary term.
I am genuinely curious how cis became “cut” or “kill”. Granted Latin has about a million terms for killing someone (including the oft misused decimate) but cis just isn’t one of them. Tere are a couple c words (ie 4~) but caedo is the only one I’ve seen used and um, yeah. One of the others is more akin to being broken up, emotionally, or language wise, than physically cut up; one’s closer to being ruined than physically cut…caedo is a more generic to kill, except I’ve only seen it passive tense as in “he fell (to his death)”…and conseco means to cut up into pieces / dismember.
So yeah, the understanding of Latin is on par wi the understanding of everything else.
“Sexism against men: less than 1 percent get accused of commiting a horrible, inhumane crime.”
Not quite. That 1%~ number is the percent of accusations which are false. So take whatever percent are accused, and then shift the decimal two places. So yeah, probably more like 0.015%~ — and that’s assuming that —
1) that college study of the percent of men who’d admit to “having sex with someone passed out”, etc, holds nationally and across all rapists
2) that every last motherfucking rapist gets formal accused
So if the 36% of rapes are reported is true, and the 16%~ of men admit to rape is true (I wish I could site that one, but I’m falling asleep)…it works out to:
0.16 * 0.36 * 0.01 = 0.000576 aka 0.0576%
That is also assuming that the figure for all rapes, from which the 36% is derived, includes to false reports. But since it includes all police reports, and the number of false reports is so small, the margin of error still puts it well under 0.1% of men being falsely accused (in the US, lifetime data)
Back in 5 with shits and giggles math