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Warren Farrell on Unemployment, Salesmanship, and Other Things That Are Like Rape, Supposedly

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Warren Farrell: “We are still requiring men to be the sexual salespersons but now defining them as rapists when they do it well.”

Warren Farrell, as a sort of “elder statesman” of the Men’s Rights movement, may have gained a sort of weird respectability simply by being around as long as he has, and because he’s published books with major publishers. But the myth of Farrell’s intellectual respectability shatters pretty quickly once one takes a good, honest, and unbiased look at what he has actually written, in The Myth of Male Power and elsewhere.

We’ve already taken a look at some of the strange and troubling things he wrote about rape in that book. Farrell is also fond of rape as a metaphor, and regularly compares things that men endure to rape, as a way of bolstering his overall thesis that it is men, not women, who are the “disposable sex,” and who truly suffer.

Here are some of the things that Farrell argues are equivalent to rape:

Draft registration. In Farrell’s view, the fact that young men are required to sign what is in essence a meaningless piece of paper is a kind of mass rape of men.

How, exactly? Well, you see, young men who refuse to register for the draft when they turn 18 can be  barred from government jobs and can – in theory at least – face a stiff fine and prison time. Never mind that most young men sign without fear, because the draft is about as likely to return to fashion as raccoon coats. Farrell imagines what might hypothetically happen if they don’t:

Once in prison, your son’s nubile, young body combined with his reputation for not fighting makes him a perfect candidate for homosexual rape and, therefore, AIDS. In brief, he is subject to being killed. …

Do male-only draft registration and combat requirements amount, then, to the legalized rape of men? Yes. (p. 135, Myth of Male Power, 1993 hardcover edition)

Farrell offers no evidence that any of this ever actually happened to anyone who refused to register for the draft since it was reinstated in 1980, but in his mind, evidently, the hypothetical rape of men is as terrible an injustice as the real rape of women.

Unemployment: In Farrell’s view, unemployment – at least for men – is essentially the same as rape.

Many women report that rape leaves them feeling humiliated, violated helpless, angry, guilty, self blaming, depressive, lower in self-esteem, and suicidal. Their vulnerability leaves them feeling powerless, as if the whole world were  an elephant and they are an ant. Similarly, men who are fired or experience any of “the three unemployment’s – underemployment, unemployment, and the fear of unemployment” – often feel humiliated, violated, helpless, angry, guilty, self blaming, depressive, lower in self-esteem, and suicidal.their vulnerability leaves them feeling powerless, as if the whole world were an elephant and they are an ant. (p. 173)

Oh, it gets worse:

Unemployment deprives men of that which has given many men the respect and love of women; rape violates the body that has given many women the appreciation and love of men. Few men feel they chose unemployment, just as few women feel they chose to be raped. (p. 173)

Huh. Don’t women get fired, too? And aren’t some men raped? Well, sure, but women who lose their jobs don’t really count.

Of course, unemployment affects women and rape also affects men. But the unemployed man is the subject of ridicule. … Despite the similarity between the unemployment of men and the rape of women, no one would dare joke about the worthlessness of a raped woman.” (p. 173)

Well, I guess he hadn’t met Paul Elam. Or Ferdinand Bardamu Matt Forney. Or this dude. Or about fifty million other examples I could dig up if I felt it was worth it.

Indeed, it’s so extremely unlikely that Farrell has never run across someone joking about rape victims that I can only assume that either he has some sort of short-term memory problem akin to Leonard in Memento or he’s lying.

While comparing draft registration and unemployment with rape in order to suggest how much men suffer, Farrell also compares rape with trivial or harmless things in a way that minimizes the suffering of female rape victims:

For example, Farrell compares rape with successful salesmanship:

We are still requiring men to be the sexual salespersons but now defining them as rapists when they do it well. (p. 316)

He also compares rape laws with traffic signs.

Laws with broad definitions of rape are like laws making fifty-five-miles-per-hour speed limits for men and no speed limits for women. (p. 318)

More on Farrell to come.

NOTE: A draft version of this went up accidentally earlier; I fixed a few things in it, none of them substantive.

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LBT
LBT
13 years ago

RE: Marie

Unfortunately, I’m likely to be sick a long time. But fortunately, that doesn’t mean I can’t still be happy. It’s just… difficult right now. Not helped by losing my health insurance for a month. (HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN MEDICAL BILLS YAY!)

Marie
13 years ago

@LBT

Well, I hope you feel happy and good. Sorry to hear about your health insurance though 🙁

Aaliyah
13 years ago

Hey! Yeah, sorry, brain has been… unwell. (The past week, I discovered that what I thought was a little issue actually turned into TWENTY YEARS of issue. So I’m likely to be pretty sick in the head for a long time.) On the plus side, I just closed my writeathon, and my artwork is now on a T-shirt!

=[ I’m sorry to hear that. If you want another trans* person to talk to and stuff, my email can be found in my DW profile. (I’m not automatically assuming that your problems are solely trans*-related; I’m just saying that in my experience talking to other trans* people even about non-trans* stuff can be nice.)

Yoyo
Yoyo
13 years ago

Best wishes LBT, I also know what those two issues are like and they just don’t belong in the same metaphor. But then this creature doesn’t really belong in any healthy universe.

MKlein
MKlein
13 years ago

“rape violates the body that has given many women the appreciation and love of men”

And THAT’S why he thinks rape is bad and women react badly to it?

Dude, rape is bad because it violates your body AND IT’S TRAUMATIZING TO HAVE YOUR BODY VIOLATED, not because “oh crap my body was what got guys to like me, and now it might not anymore.”

Warren Farrell really does think women are some weird, seemingly-human-but-not-really other species, doesn’t he?

MKlein
MKlein
13 years ago

By the way, sorry to hear that, LBT, especially about the health insurance 🙁

MKlein
MKlein
13 years ago

@ You know not my name – quick point: “mentally ill” doesn’t necessarily mean “unable to consent.” It can, but not always. Thanks.

LBT
LBT
13 years ago

RE: Everyone

Heh. Sad to say, being trans is one of the least of my worries, at this point. But I am intensely glad that I’m off my hormones now and had surgery while I had the cash to do so. Pretty much I just figured out that my memory has actually been quietly lying to me for pretty much my entire lifespan, and we really are just another sadsack DID system created by abusive parenting, and now it’s finally all coming to light. Joy of all joys.

I know that things will get better, and that eventually disability will get through and I’ll have my room with four walls and a window. It’s just hanging on for the year or so they estimate it’ll take, and trying to stay off the street.

Hopefully I can run another writeathon soon, try and recoup the loss from medical bills. It’s getting harder to squeeze money out of my art, when my brain just keeps crapping out on me.

RE: Aaliyah

Got any IM, by chance?

LBT
LBT
13 years ago

RE: MKlein

*laughs* Thank god my mental illness isn’t the kind that takes away my ability to consent! If I had to lose my sex life on top of everything else, I’d be FURIOUS!

serrana
serrana
13 years ago

hellkell, not running, but this one expresses my feelings pretty well:

http://media.tumblr.com/9939d80aafd7f1217af815bd1f7ab42b/tumblr_inline_mm7xkp72Jw1ruxf43.gif

Also, as the mom of a 20-year-old, the phrase “your son’s nubile, young body” squicks me out to no end. Thanks Warrel! (By “thanks” I mean “you’re really, really gross.”)

serrana
serrana
13 years ago

Hi LBT! I hope things start going better for you soon.

Aaliyah
13 years ago

Got any IM, by chance?

I do, but I never use it and I completely forgot what the name, password, and email were. It happens sometimes. V_V Sorry for that.

SaltPickles
SaltPickles
13 years ago

Hey, wordsp1nner – thanks for the pattern, it’s lovely!

Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

Youch LBT, I’m sorry. Doesn’t make you a “sad sack DID system” though, you’re still an awesome person (and Mac’s still a crass one with cooking skills, and Sneak had better still be a superhero, and Gigi’s still…Gigi…and I’ve never takes to Miranda but she’s still her too)

…I hope that isn’t out of line, I’m really not sure what to say, but just “you’re not a sad sack of anything” isn’t covering it…I fail with words, sorry

LBT
LBT
13 years ago

RE: Aaliyah

Don’t worry about it. Fortunately, I have a lot of people who care about me. (Though, unfortunately, none who can really afford to put me up in a four-walled room.) Manboobz is cheering me up, though! That and Dangan Ronpa!

LBT
LBT
13 years ago

RE: serrana and Dave

Thanks, and sorry for the sudden AUGHbomb as I return. Just… come ON, world, I’ve been crashed out for a year now, just cut me a break?

saintnick86
saintnick86
13 years ago

…And MRAs wonder why they’re chastised for accusing others of “self-victimization”…

Funny how someone being physically violated doesn’t make one an actual victim, but signing papers for a military draft or getting fired from a job. Wait, sorry, I didn’t mean “funny” – I meant “goddamn despicable.”

leftwingfox
13 years ago

So sorry to hear about the situation LBT. =(

leftwingfox
13 years ago

Had to comment on this though:

We are still requiring men to be the sexual salespersons but now defining them as rapists when they do it well. (p. 316)

Is anyone else hearing echoes of the Republican “Stop punishing success” talking point? I;m not going to push that eny further, since I really don’t want to compare the financial meltdown with rape. It’s just interesting how horrible logic gets repurposed for terrible arguments.

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
13 years ago

Funny that Farrell should mention the psychological effects of unemployment, because I just finished reviewing a book (called THE BODY ECONOMIC: WHY AUSTERITY KILLS that everyone should read) that examines the public health effects, including the mental health effects, of recession and public policy responses thereto.

And it turns out that unemployment, in and of itself, is not substantially correlated with depression or suicide rates, IF there exists both a strong social safety net and an assertive means of helping people find work. Take these away, however, and suicide rates for the unemployed skyrocket. (Depression also increases, but is actually more prevalent among unemployed women than unemployed men in the research cited.)

So rather than making specious analogies, Farrell would be better served to push for strong social safety net programs and treat rape of any person like, y’know, rape.

Kittehserf
13 years ago

Reading wordsp1nner’s comment “Besides the whole squidgy “men have to convince women to have sex with them” overtones” – even without the nauseating rape = salesmanship stuff, my first thought on that was “A man who has to persuade me to have sex is never going to be in the running anyway.”

archaeoholmes
archaeoholmes
13 years ago

Sort of on topic – ok, not very. This piece about pay inequality is great; the comments from people not getting it, not so great
http://www.copyblogger.com/james-chartrand-underpants/

Kittehserf
13 years ago

“rape violates the body that has given many women the appreciation and love of men”

If they only “appreciate and love” a woman for her body, let alone losing those feelings because she’s been raped, then they don’t actually love and appreciate her at all, and are pieces of shit who should go fall in a bottomless pit along with the rapist.