Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.
Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”
Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:
The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.
The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.
He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:
Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:
“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”
According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.
Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”
He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.
Some examples, taken from the second news account:
“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”
“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”
Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):
I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.
If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.
This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:
Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.
From another post on the same subject:
The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.
Here he threatens a female prosecutor:
To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …
2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.
Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:
I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.
The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:
There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.
Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:
At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”
This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.
Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.
Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:
So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!
Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers
AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:
There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.
For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and here.
So a woman got drunk in front or Eurosabra and he interprets this as her trying to trick him into raping her???
All I can say is good thing you, uh, outsmarted her. You keep staying one step ahead of those sneaky tricks, okay?
Certainly, I can see the feminist concern regarding the discussion over reproductive rights. However, the conflict is not indicative of a cackling, “misogynist” cabal, but rather a very reasonable discussion over a contentious topic. Infants on both sides enjoy painting the other as “misogynist” or “pro-death”. Adults, on the other hand, understand the necessity of discussion and empathy.
If you had anything worthwhile to do with your time, Steele, you wouldn’t be spending it posting here about how posting here is a waste of your time.
Steele: If you think that women only throw ‘tantrums’ online and in classrooms, you should check this out: http://bit.ly/NhKhGa
Ten thousand women showed up on the Capitol steps in Lansing to protest a legislator being banned from speaking on the floor of the House for using a medically accurate term to describe part of her reproductive system. If I’d had transport, I would have been there, too.
I find Eivind intellectually interesting as a translator, particularly since I’ve occasionally dealt with Scandinavia while never actually doing Norsk-English translation. Politically, I’m a right-wing Zionist and always interested in potential allies from a European Right which isn’t explicitly anti-Semitic and Islamophobic. The people I worked for in Israel are now the Establishment and they are making the same mistakes the Right always makes there, neo-liberalism and a basic contempt for Palestinians. Given the other blogs of the same Incel ilk, like the Brunocracy and Danny’s Corner of the Universe (both of which and whom I like), I found Eivind bad-car-crash-can’t-look-away interesting in an ankle-biting Scandinaviani prior-restraint-inviting kind of way. He’s the flip side of despair, which is rage. I dunno, perhaps I’m just a bad Ziofascist with an authenticity fetish, and Eivind is nothing if not authentic.
I assume you’re being deliberately obtuse about the minders, so I’ll drop it.
The best protester there – the bravest, too, it was fucking HOT that day:
offs! http://www.flickr.com/photos/68431029@N06/7529806716/
@CassandraSays
No, sorry, I just found the pic there via google image search. Google or bing translate might work, but I haven’t given it a try.
@Steele:
“Bullshit. I have never seen an MRA site praise Sodini, or make excuses for Lepine. I disagree with AVfM’s decision to host Ball’s manifesto, but he is different from Sodini and Lepine for a myriad of reasons, first and foremost being that he didn’t actually kill anyone.”
Just because you haven’t seen something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and the links regarding George Sodini and Mark Lepine others posted after your posts adequately prove that there are many MRAs who see these cowardly scumbags as heroes and martyrs. So I can only conclude that you’ve either got the observational powers of a turnip or you’re just flat out lying. Or some combination of the two.
@NWO:
“@MertvayaRuka “And I again question why this rape apologist piece of shit is still allowed to post here;”
Lying tongue, false statement, degradation, haugthiness.”
Tell your god to take it up with me personally. I find his spokesmen lacking.
And since Steele likes to divide people into “adults” and “infants”, it’s worth noting that it’s the first group that’s more likely to be intellectually honest enough to admit when they’re wrong, and the latter group that’s more likely to stick their fingers in their ears and go “LA LA LA LA CAN’T HEAR YOU”.
And this applies doubly to people who claim to be interested in “discussion and empathy”.
@Eurosabra
“I assume you’re being deliberately obtuse about the minders, so I’ll drop it.”
I am not being deliberately obtuse. Please explain.
@Eurosabra
I didn’t get the thing about the minders either.
Kyrie, I really don’t give a flying fuck what you or others on this site think about me.
Right Ruby. If you don’t care, why not leave?
We think you’re horrid, I can’t imagine wanting to hang around people who think that of me. Then again, you’re not too bright, are ya?
That’s been obvious from the moment your modus operandi became clear.
Which goes something like this:
1. Post something obnoxious and objectionable;
2. Get lots of replies pointing out how obnoxious and objectionable it is;
3. Repeat the same obnoxious and objectionable as though (2) never happened;
4. Go back to (2) and repeat ad infinitum.
Which by this stage is broadly equivalent to spraying “FUCK YOU” over our monitor screens every single time you post here. And when this is combined with blatant rape apologetics, I’m frankly amazed you aren’t on moderation – people have been banned for less.
Ruby won’t notice because she never reads anyone else’s posts, but there’s a word missing in point (3). You can probably guess what it is, though, or at least something close enough.
Pecunium:
Hey, thanks for the props. It’s likely if you’ve been keeping up with the secondary sources, especially of the past 15 years, that you’ve run across the echoes of the historiographical debate I was referring to, or representatives of the anti-teleological position I was describing. Writers like Peter Wilson, John Lynn, David Parrott, and Kenneth Chase all present a view of technological, tactical, and political change which is more about adaptation and less about Progress! (which usually ends up meaning “European white people!”), and you probably read some of them at some time.
Seriously, I love Chase’s book so much I want to gay-marry it in Massachusetts and have tons of little pamphlets with it, it is that good.
This is often the best way to figure something out, by working through how it would actually work. Amateur historians own.
In their defense, so few of the people I’m interested in actually could read and write that sometimes one or two memoirs is all you have.
I know, Silly feminists, viewing a male-only (by design, not by accident) panel of “experts” discussing reproductive rights as being indicative of a cackling, “misogynist” cabal. I mean, hell, the only reason that the panel was male only was because it consisted of male-only (by “Divine Right” of males to be in authority over females, never a female to be in authority over males) clergy.
Nope, no misogynist overtones there, just heeding to God’s word as written, translated and interpreted by men and for men.
Ruby, then why are you here, in the comments? Just the the pet pictures, bra talk and cooking recipes? Or do you enjoy reading trolls comments because it proves some peoples are worse than you?
I you don’t care, why do you keep telling us again and again that rape is funny but only EVIL people,why do you want us to know it (we do!) so much?
I don’t buy it. Not for a single fleeting moment do I believe you don’t care what we think.
Because you keep defending yourself. You might suck at self-justification, but you keep trying it. And when you’re not doing that you’re engaging in totally non-substantive apple-polishing. These are not the actions of someone who doesn’t care about being accepted by the community.
So unless you’re prepared to admit you’re nothing but a troll*, I call ever so much bullshit.
*And even then, you’re just seeking a different kind of validation.
Can we maybe have a Ruby Challenge in the same vein as the B—don Challenge? I think in her case, the challenge should be something like “each comment must contain new information in some form,” or perhaps “each comment must be a reply to something someone, somewhere, has said, and must demonstrate that she actually read the thing she is responding to.” Or both. Basically, whatever would cause her contributions to this blog to be something other than “I just think it’s cool to rape BAD people! LOL!” for the 57th time.
Ruby’s less long-windedly tedious than B____don, but they have more in common than otherwise.
“each comment must contain new information in some form”
I like it. Like B____’s challenge, it’s both incredibly easy for most people and yet most of her comments would fail it.
A solipsism so enveloping that it approaches performance art?
It’s the way that she keeps saying “fuck you” to the rest of us (either directly or implicitly) while blatantly sucking up to David that’s so hilarious.
Especially when she didn’t even read his post properly the other day and ended up calling Ozy a loser in the belief that this was echoing David’s viewpoint.