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Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge arrested for death threats against police [UPDATE 3]

Eivind Berge and police

Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.

Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”

Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:

The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.

The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.

He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:

Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:

“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”

According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.

Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”

He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.

Some examples, taken from the second news account:

“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”

“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”

Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):

I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.

If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.

[I]f you are a victim of psychiatry, it is probably in your best interest (as well as a publicly beneficial act of activism) to kill a guard or cop in order to get a fair public trial and possibly escape treatment before it ruins your health completely.

Rather than cowering in fear of the police, I assumed a warrior mentality and started hating law enforcement. I really, really wanted to hurt those responsible for enacting and enforcing feminist sex law.

This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:

Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.

From another post on the same subject:

The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.

Here he threatens a female prosecutor:

To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …

2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.

Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:

I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.

The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:

There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.

Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:

At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”

This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.

Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers

AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and  here.

 

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Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

“It’s the way that she keeps saying “fuck you” to the rest of us (either directly or implicitly) while blatantly sucking up to David that’s so hilarious. ”

Because obviously David shares her views that raping EVIL people is hilarious, right? Is that even a strawman? Because usually people make them so that they can attack them and destroy them.
She seems to have this StrawDavid in order to… like him? Is StrawDavid Ruby’s virtual RealDoll? ‘0_o

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Huh, I was wondering how long it would take Eurosabra to openly demonstrate how horrible he is in a way that was obvious to everyone. I guess today is that day.

(I’ve always got exactly the vibe he’s giving off here from him, so not the slightest bit surprised.)

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

I’ve long been aware that Eurosabra is a PUA advocate who’s openly sympathetic towards Eivind Berge.

Individually, those traits don’t exactly scream “good catch”, but together they’re toxic enough to emit thick green clouds.

VoIP
VoIP
13 years ago

I dunno, he had me at “right-wing Zionist.”

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

He is a veritable onion of horrible beliefs. But yeah, the rape sympathizer part was clear even without knowing about his fondness for Berge. Remember the conversation about “mild gaslighting”?

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
13 years ago

I’m open to being wrong about this, but aren’t “Euro” and “sabra” mutually exclusive terms? Is Israel geographically located in Europe? *toddles off to google*

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

Israel is not part of Europe, either geographically or culturally.

It participates in the annual Eurovision Song Contest, but that’s about it – and by all accounts other Middle Eastern countries could take part if they didn’t have constitutional issues about broadcasting the Israeli entry (a non-negotiable condition of entry).

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

(I should probably clarify by acknowledging that a great many Israelis have European ancestry, but it’s always seemed to me that they consciously try to maintain a cultural distance from Europe – and certainly the EU seems much keener on the Palestinians.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Israel also gets MTV Europe? So there’s that. I suspect that there is a connection between the username “Eurosabra” and “right-wing Zionist”.

pecunium
13 years ago

Cliff: re Eurosabra, he’s a regular congtributor to Berge’s blog. Perhaps I ought have mentioned it before.

B>EurosabraI think he’s not actually a predator, as I am not.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Based on your comments, I’d say you are predatory.

I think all awkward straight men should get to deal with a lesbian-dominated university housing administration. It was enlightening to say the least to have someone ostentatiously drink herself ”unconscious” while alone with me at a party in hopes I’d try something, my chief concern was that she’d get alcohol poisoning.

Of course that’s what she was doing, you being so desirable and all.

Steele: The “War Against Women” is at worst fear-mongering from the feminist crowd, and at best a misleading political jargon. I’m not going to get into this with the immature extremists here at Man Boobz, because suffice to say it would be a waste of my time.

That is truer than you know, as you spend your time throwing littly hissy-fits on blogs.

Certainly, I can see the feminist concern regarding the discussion over reproductive rights. However, the conflict is not indicative of a cackling, “misogynist” cabal, but rather a very reasonable discussion over a contentious topic.

Reasonable? Defining any woman who is not ovulating as “presumptively pregnant” is reasonable?

Making it legal for a pharmacist to replace his, or her, personal opinon for that of a woman’s physician is reasonable?

That’s a fucked up definition of reasonable.

How do you feel about child support? Care to give us your reasonable ideas?

Sharculese
13 years ago

Kyrie, I really don’t give a flying fuck what you or others on this site think about me.

this is an obvious lie. it clearly bothers you that we dont see you for the brave faux-moderate truth-teller you think you are, which is why you get so prickly when we point out again and again that you think some truly hateful shit.

scrapemind
13 years ago

Of course that’s what she was doing, you being so desirable and all.

Of course Eurosabra wasn’t desirable. His cake was made of shit. I thought this was a story about someone trying to entrap him, not trying to have some of his sex.

Ithiliana
13 years ago

@Steele: reasonable conflict, eh?

You so reasonable, then I bet you’d support the addendums to bills to set up the same restrictive process for men to get vasectomies, etc. that women have to get to deal with to get various types of contraception and abortion services.

Right, you complete and utter stinking asshole?

Tom Martin
13 years ago

Women fighting for the vote burnt buildings.

pecunium
13 years ago

Tom Martin: And so? It’s not that good causes can never be supported by people doing drastic things.

Are you saying that women ought not have the vote?

If so, you’re a misogynistic moron.

If not, your a stupid rhetoritician, because you are implying that.

pecunium
13 years ago

VoIP: It’s also possible that inside the profession, the sense of, “progress” is less present, since the shift in tactics is one thing we pay attention to.

De Puys study on on the rates of injury from various weapons has an interesting bit about how the US Civil war is anomalous in that it’s the only war in which longarms caused more casualties than artillery (in the age of artillery). That the lessons learned in the latter stages of that war (esp. re trenches) weren’t extrapolated.

In their defense, so few of the people I’m interested in actually could read and write that sometimes one or two memoirs is all you have.

I’m taking that into account. I mean people who spout patent nonsense (see Grossman): stupid leaps of logic from actual facts.

I mean it about Grossman. I read “On Killing” and for all the interesting things in it, his central premise has a hole in it you could march all of Gustav Adolph’s troops through, and air for the pikes to spare.

VoIP
VoIP
13 years ago

Pecunium

Cliff: re Eurosabra, he’s a regular congtributor to Berge’s blog. Perhaps I ought have mentioned it before.

You yada yada-ed the radical right? You can’t yada yada the radical right!

VoIP
VoIP
13 years ago

Pecunium

I mean it about Grossman. I read “On Killing” and for all the interesting things in it, his central premise has a hole in it you could march all of Gustav Adolph’s troops through, and air for the pikes to spare.

Huh. I wasn’t familiar with his work, and then I looked it up on Wikipedia, and then…huh. I see he makes broad claims that are not dependent on any one particular culture’s values or norms. That’s…not good. Wikipedia says he relies on Marshall, and don’t we know now that Marshall just made a whole lot of his stuff up?

cloudiah
13 years ago

Tom Martin is back? “Female penguins are whores” Tom Martin? Or is it a sockpuppet?

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

I am NOT a contributor to Eivind’s blog, I have commented on a few of the less-inflammatory items and have never supported the direct rape apologia. Eivind is pretty clear that he is not a PUA, whereas I have an interest in pick-up and more direct experience (with Mystery, Neil Strauss, Ross Jeffries, and Vince Kelvin) with that milieu. I am an agnostic on most forms of the European Right, except that Norway is tending highly anti-Israel and I’m seeking alternatives to the EDL, Forza Italia, etc. You can’t build a political party on Sammy Ghozlan, but he represents a strand of French-Jewish-Zionist activism separate from the Kahanists and the violent freaks.

I don’t think my cake is bad, it’s just that kichel is such an acquired taste, apparently. In LA I frequented a lot of mainstream and kink venues and no one ever registered a complaint, because it’s really, really easy to not be an ass.

ragefromthebasement
13 years ago

Eurosabra, please explain the minded thing. I really want to know what it is.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Also, I can’t tell if scrapemind is endorsing the “cake is shit” paradigm or accepting it for the sake of argument. It’s more like you have to pitch your cake to 50 women/month if you’re doing the equivalent of cold calling.

ragefromthebasement
13 years ago

Er, minder I mean.

VoIP
VoIP
13 years ago

Eurosabra:

I have commented on a few of the less-inflammatory items and have never supported the direct rape apologia.

The fact that you have to specify this is not a good sign.

I’m seeking alternatives to the EDL, Forza Italia, etc….

holy shit
both these groups are legit fascist

I seem to be getting a lot of use out of this gif today

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

People have in the past labeled me the dorm creep, and assigned me minders. As noted above, they were wrong, and they diverted university resources from the real predators.

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