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Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge arrested for death threats against police [UPDATE 3]

Eivind Berge and police

Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.

Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”

Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:

The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.

The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.

He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:

Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:

“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”

According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.

Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”

He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.

Some examples, taken from the second news account:

“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”

“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”

Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):

I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.

If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.

[I]f you are a victim of psychiatry, it is probably in your best interest (as well as a publicly beneficial act of activism) to kill a guard or cop in order to get a fair public trial and possibly escape treatment before it ruins your health completely.

Rather than cowering in fear of the police, I assumed a warrior mentality and started hating law enforcement. I really, really wanted to hurt those responsible for enacting and enforcing feminist sex law.

This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:

Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.

From another post on the same subject:

The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.

Here he threatens a female prosecutor:

To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …

2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.

Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:

I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.

The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:

There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.

Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:

At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”

This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.

Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers

AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and  here.

 

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karalora
13 years ago

I’m still wondering where social change comes from if “the truth of men never changes” but women just blindly follow the herd and never think of anything new for themselves.

Ithiliana
13 years ago

@Karalora: Alas, there you go being all logical again! How misandrist of you! (logic=abuse).

Clearly, social change comes because of………………ALIENS! (male of course).

*nods happily and adjusts tinhat*

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
13 years ago

But it’s also been shown that unconscious prejudice is not very deep-seated and can be changed surprisingly easily.

Granted I haven’t delved deeply into research on this, but my impression is that that unconscious prejudice is almost impossible to change (judging by implicitly association tests, anyway).

And I maintain that NWO doesn’t believe, or even pay attention to, most of what he says. He just likes to poke buttons and stir up shit, and then watch what happens. My brother does this to people in real life. He finds it massively entertaining to watch people froth at the mouth and go completely apeshit over whatever it is he’s going on about. The thing is, though, that it requires him to be sensitive enough to know how people are likely to react, and smart enough to pluck supports out from their arguments without their being able to rebuild quickly. It takes a lot of smarts, skill, and talent, and he doesn’t do it to people who will either be emotionally crushed or get physically violent–but it’s still an asshole thing to do.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

I like Eivind and I hate to see the potential leader of a center-right party burn bridges like this, but if he wants to be a bad boy and get his hate on, I suppose the impulse is unstoppable. Too bad.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

I like Eivind and I hate to see the potential leader of a center-right party burn bridges like this,

Holy shit, I can’t believe I ever thought of you as just harmlessly clueless with women.

Elvind’s entire blog is basically about how rape should be legal. Is that what you like abou him?

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

And ahahaha, “rape should be legal” is center-right? What the fuck does it take to be far-right?

GingerSnaps
GingerSnaps
13 years ago

Dude, for real, my family is Norwegian and I had a long-ass talk with my papa about Breivik and politics and how a Norwegian’s conservative is an American’s liberal. The American conservative is fucking [pick something socially synonymous with insane that doesn’t have able-ism attached].

That shit miiiiiiiiight be considered center-right here, but in Norway it’s off the fucking radar.

katz
13 years ago

Is “batshit” still fair game?

karalora
13 years ago

@ithiliana

No, there must be a simpler explanation. Wait, I’ve got it! Social change comes from MANGINAS! They’re not real men, so they don’t count under the “truth never changes” clause, and their entire purpose in life is bowing and scraping to women, so…

No, wait, that doesn’t work. Women are already following the herd, so the best thing the manginas can to do please them is to follow along too…

I’VE GOT IT!

Social change comes from non-binaries. Thus proving how evil they are.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Eh, because he wasn’t explicitly Islamophobic, he might have offered an opportunity for a sane right-wing party. I think he’s not actually a predator, as I am not. I didn’t want to post my babysitter experiences on CliffBlog, but people who have assigned me minders in the past have been bored. I think all awkward straight men should get to deal with a lesbian-dominated university housing administration. It was enlightening to say the least to have someone ostentatiously drink herself ”unconscious” while alone with me at a party in hopes I’d try something, my chief concern was that she’d get alcohol poisoning.

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

Eurosabra:

I like Eivind and I hate to see the potential leader of a center-right party burn bridges like this, but if he wants to be a bad boy and get his hate on, I suppose the impulse is unstoppable. Too bad.

Please name an actual leader of a center-right party with a history of repeated pro-rape advocacy written under his own name in a publicly accessible forum. Or anything even close to the equivalent.

And how the hell is someone with Berge’s views located in the political center? His politics are strongly right-wing by any sensible yardstick, and off-the-scale far right by that of most European democracies. Just about the only unexpected quirk is that he’s actually in favour of Muslim immigration, but that’s exclusively because he thinks that this will increase the proportion of the population harboring similar anti-women views. (Never mind the fact that a great many Muslims don’t fit this caricature, and indeed would be as horrified by Berge as the rest of us are).

But I’m curious: you say you like Eivind. Why?

katz
13 years ago

Eh, because he wasn’t explicitly Islamophobic, he might have offered an opportunity for a sane right-wing party.

So thinking Muslims are bad is wrong…but thinking rape is good is fine?

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

Eh, because he wasn’t explicitly Islamophobic, he might have offered an opportunity for a sane right-wing party.

How might he have offered this opportunity, when the only things he’s famous for are the polar opposite of what most people would consider to be sane opinions?

Seriously, Eurosabra, I’ve long thought you were creepy (let’s face it, you identify as a PUA), but this is on a different plane altogether. And I know that you’re fully aware of exactly what you’re defending, because you’ve been hanging around Berge’s blog for years.

Which makes you pretty close to being beyond the civilised pale as well.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
13 years ago

Eh, because he wasn’t explicitly Islamophobic, he might have offered an opportunity for a sane right-wing party. I think he’s not actually a predator, as I am not. I didn’t want to post my babysitter experiences on CliffBlog, but people who have assigned me minders in the past have been bored. I think all awkward straight men should get to deal with a lesbian-dominated university housing administration. It was enlightening to say the least to have someone ostentatiously drink herself ”unconscious” while alone with me at a party in hopes I’d try something, my chief concern was that she’d get alcohol poisoning.

I have no idea what you’re trying to say here. Seriously, it makes no sense.

Ithiliana
13 years ago

@Unimaginative: NO sense at all. I just kept looking at that and going WUT?

Fembot
Fembot
13 years ago

“It was enlightening to say the least to have someone ostentatiously drink herself ”unconscious” while alone with me at a party in hopes I’d try something, my chief concern was that she’d get alcohol poisoning.”

Wut?

Did she actually say she wanted you to try something?

And why are people “minding” you? Are you a Scientologist?

katz
13 years ago

Admittedly, if I knew Eurosabra IRL, I’d want to assign him a chaperon, but he’s an adult, so I couldn’t.

fatcat
fatcat
13 years ago

I know I might start another argument, but I just have to get it out:
As regards Happy’s post, I definitely get where she (?) is coming from. I think people are different from each other. Some people can let bad things just ‘roll off’ them more or less, others can’t. The reason I found this blog was bad for me and I stopped reading (mostly) was that I found it coloured my interactions with men in the real world, making me suspicious of nearly all of them. I don’t want to ruin any friendships over this. When I first heard of the MRM and its associated misogyny, I was shocked because it was so different from anything I had encountered before. I did not believe women were disadvantaged in any (or very many) ways in the Western world today- in fact, I thought men were treated kind of badly sometimes. I have now changed my views somewhat, and realised I was naive in some ways, but honestly I still don’t see much discrimination in real life. But I think MRAs are awful, awful people.For me, there is a dichotomy I can’t get past- either someone has horrible beliefs like this, or they don’t. I can’t blame ‘culture’ or ‘society’ for these kinds of people. I need to make a distinction between MRAs and the rest of men (people) or otherwise I will go crazy. Yes, I wish I could think differently, but right now I can’t. For those of you coming from a feminist background, I can understand why this blog could be ‘relaxing’, but for others its not. Obviously people can choose what they want to read. Nobody is forcing me to read this blog, or anyone else (I hope).

fatcat
fatcat
13 years ago

Whenever I read Eurosabra’s posts, I see words.. forming sentences, but with no meaning. It’s very bizarre.

Wisteria
Wisteria
13 years ago

Ruby, you are advocating rape. Compassionate people do not advocate rape. Ergo, you’re not a compassionate person.

No matter how many times you tell us or yourself, you’re not. What you seem to think is a principled position has turned you into an advocate of rape. That should make you rethink your position.

Steele
Steele
13 years ago

The “War Against Women” is at worst fear-mongering from the feminist crowd, and at best a misleading political jargon. I’m not going to get into this with the immature extremists here at Man Boobz, because suffice to say it would be a waste of my time. The adults will deal with things in a cogent, civilized manner, while you infants can throw your tantrums in the blogosphere and the university classrooms.

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

I’m not going to get into this with the immature extremists here at Man Boobz, because suffice to say it would be a waste of my time. The adults will deal with things in a cogent, civilized manner, while you infants can throw your tantrums in the blogosphere and the university classrooms.

Translation: you’ve pointed out too many pesky factual errors and illogicalities in my posts, to which I can’t respond without digging an even deeper hole for myself, so I’m just going to insult the lot of you in the hope that no-one will notice.

Pathetic.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

Steele: Because attempting to deny women bodily integrity and medical choice is… what, an expression of love for us?

Ithiliana
13 years ago

@Wetherby and others: how long till the FLOUNCE?

And how many flounces?

John Anderson went so fast (I’d say “we hardly knew him,” but unfortunately we kinda did) that he wasn’t much fun.

The “I’m adult and you’re all children” always sounds so funny from someone flouncing…..

And Steele, no rebuttal to any of my posts with what I like to call EVIDENCE?

Too hard to deal with?

Steele
Steele
13 years ago

That’s right, Wetherby.

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