After hearing a misogynist make some rancid generalization about women based on the terrible behavior of one particular woman, it’s hard not to respond by saying “not all women are like that.” Misogynists hear this so often, and evidently see it as so hilarious, that they’ve invented their own little acronym for the phrase: NAWALT. You’ll find this all the time on MRA sites, along with its sister acronym NAFALT, with “feminists” in the place of “women.”
Many MRAs seem to believe that simply repeating one or another of these acronyms is an effective, and highly witty, rebuttal to their critics. Because to them it is self-evident: All women, all feminists, ARE like that.
So imagine the pleasure I felt when I finally ran across an MRA-ish fellow challenging this conventional wisdom. On his blog la prensa, the regular Spearhead commenter known as Boxer makes this controversial claim:
It is a popular misconception which men hold on to which suggests all women are the same. This is not the case.
Unfortunately, my pleasure lasted only as long as it took to read these two sentences. Because then Boxer went on to explain just what he meant by this:
For example: Some women are whores, and others are even trashier than whores. Some women live in houses where the litter boxes overflow and the pungent aroma of catshit lingers lovingly in the air. Other women are allergic to cats, and their houses carry the stench of human feces, rotting food and the cheap perfumes they douse themselves in.
Apparently Boxer has never been invited into any woman’s house, and bases most of his opinions of the fair sex on reruns of Hoarders.
Men will center themselves upon these notable differences, and mistakenly assume that the diversity of individual women points to differences in the way individual women behave. Such high-minded fools usually learn the hard way, when the woman decides to “cash out” with the help of the state and its family law courts, who are always eager to liquidate a lifetime of male planning and work, dividing it between themselves and the cunt which the fool so stupidly married.
See yesterday’s post for more on women and their apparently insatiable hunger for D-I-V-O-R-C-E.
The foolish man, confronted by a mountain of inescapable evidence that every woman, from his mother and sister down to the bitch who empties the trashcan in his office, is a trashy slut, will immediately construct an intricate conspiracy theory between his ears. ‘Yes,’ the dumbass tells himself, ‘all the women I have ever known were and are trashy skanks, but that’s just because western society has brainwashed all the women in my own vicinity with its toxic headpoison.”
I am actually pretty sure my mom is not a slut. (Though I have heard that Las Vegas is full of them.)
This mangina will be aided along in his misconception by other manginas and white knights, often falling in with a disgruntled lot on various loser’s hangouts, in real life or on the internet. Often these men get “yellow fever”, and fly off to some third world shitheap to marry (again) in an effort to find that one precious snowflake who is not a third rate whore among the billions and billions of cunts on planet earth who prove their utter worthlessness on a daily basis.
Oh dear. I think Boxer is about to add a heaping helping of racism on top of his misogyny sundae.
It is true that Asian bitches tend to be slimmer and more intelligent than those in the white and black camps, but that just means they are more cunning, and better able to exploit the chumps who delude themselves into thinking that marrying and serving an oriental master is somehow “better” than being the slave of a homegrown American cunt.
Huh. Honestly, that wasn’t quite as bad as I was expecting. Though after nearly two years of intense study of the manosphere, I have some pretty high standards for offensiveness.
For all their variety, bitches’ behavior is uniformly lousy, and in that regard, all women are indeed like that. Yes, all of them, all around the world. This is not a war, it is something more analogous to an organized deer hunt, and you are the prey. For god’s fuck’n sake, quit marrying these slits already.
And so we circle back around to “all women ARE like that.”
Still, I have to say I agree with Boxer’s final sentence. Dudes, if you believe any of this crap, please do not marry women. Or, really, have any contact with them whatsoever. Frankly, I’d suggest that you find yourself a nice uninhabited island – like, say, this one – and move there posthaste. You’ll be much happier, and so will the rest of us.
@indifferentsky
Amazing how casual you bias is. Cheating whores billing men who aren’t the father is rare, yet you rattle off judges seeing violent fathers in the court as if it is the standard. Funny how when a father takes a child it’s kidnapping, revenge and he doesn’t care about the child at all. Tell me great sage, how did you reach that conclusion? Is it because it’s a lowly man?
Did the gang at the top tell you to think that? Such a fine herd they control. So tell me how did you reach that conclusion? Indocrination works wonders. Doesn’t it? Man takes child it’s revenge and he doesn’t care. Woman takes child and bless her soul. Aren’t you a peach? You should run for congress, you’d fit right in.
“ I mean, yeesh, I’m mostly ace and yet somehow don’t show revulsion towards women!”
I think the point that was supposed to be made here is that in our society you gotta be straight so that you can get married and have that family values thing the government are all concerned about. It’s sorta what’s drilled into people, and marriage and stuff is saturated in tv, films and media. It doesn’t occur to a lot of people that you don’t have to do any of that. I think that’s a possibility that these guys are angry. They don’t fit into a societal norm so they lash out and blame it on stupid reasons.
No just no. You fail. I wonder if at this point you are just trying to say stuff that will offend people on purpose.
@ LBT hahah ok. But a repressed person would not be affiliated with you.
@cloudiah
“Actually, in 2001, suspicious men requested 310,490 from one test provider, and nearly one third were excluded as being fathers. (Which means 2/3 of the women whose partners thought they were lying, were in fact honest.) Nonetheless, many of those men went on to voluntarily assume legal status as fathers to these children — you know, because they had formed the kind of emotional bonds that adults and children sometimes do.”
Kinda shows men’s superior altruism. Doesn’t it? It also shows how willing women are to take advantage of mens altruism.
@cloudiah. wow, that is… interesting. Is that because maybe they have lived together so long? Ok, that does not seem right to me. At this point, I’m saying… no if the person is not the bio parent, in most cases (if not all) why do they pay? hmmm.
I mean you could speculate mgtow are gay too or whatever but what would be the point? It’s stupid to say they must be x because they hate y. Plenty of men hate women yet still like screwing them. Sometimes hateful asshats are just hateful asshats.
Oh, my bad, here’s my source for my last post:
24 J. Am. Acad. Matrimonial Law. 256 (2011)
If the Genes Don’t Fit: An Overview of Paternity Disestablishment Statutes; Jacobs, Kristin K.
I don’t want Pecunium to get out his new CITATION NEEDED graphic. It’s pretty, and sparkly, and I don’t want the colors to fade. 🙂
But plenty of gay/asexual people don’t lash out and hate women. I mean sure some could but why do people always have to think if someone has an abnormal hatred of women clearly they must have some “abnormal” sexuality. Don’t you see that as problematic at all?
I fail to see how logic can fail so much that my comment would be construed as against asexual people. Amazing. Repressed homosexual men have not fared well and act out in different ways. If society forces some attachment on to an asexual person, they can be repulsed, it’s not a wacky speculation. If they don’t know they are asexual, are conservative leaning and don’t know what they are feeling, AND are assholes, …
Yeah, by the way… there is nothing about their stands that are not just pure assholery. Make no mistake.
Also jumbo I hate to even address you, but I will… your desire to distort and jump on what I say in any possible way you can and assign intentions to me with your magical thinking does NOT and never will equate to me trying to be offensive on this board. I am not trying to do that, and never will.
@indifferentsky, Many states still have older statutes on the books, which reflect a time when illegitimacy was such a terrible social stigma with serious consequences for children that courts actually set up hurdles to prevent children from being “illegitimated.” Many states have changed those statutes, but many have not.
@jumbofish: Oh no I get ya, I mean it’s a pretty far reaching hypothesis on the MRA psyche. It was just my interpretation of what indifferentsky was trying to say. The hate has to come from somewhere though, and I imagine the source could be a combination of numerous things.
@LBT
“I don’t blame trauma. I’ve been through trauma at the hands of men, and yet I somehow manage to avoid hating all men. Because I’ve met so many men of varying moralities and behaviors.”
You post a steady stream of hatred towards men. How is that not hating men? You’re just so used to the casualness of your own hatred. This is a hate site. Everyone of you post hatred with fanatical joy. You’ve been taught to since birth.
Oh so asexuals are abornal sexuality now? (see how that works? jumping on anything people say when they didn’t mean it that way)
Look the original comment I made comes from asexuality being normal, but mostly unknown at this point. It’s not abnormal. That’s a projection to say that some one’s abnormal ideas might be from “abnormal” sexual orientation.
NO NO NO it would be from a maladjustment to something normal, natural whatever.
Please respect that most feminists that comment here are not going to have a lick of bad intention when commenting. If mistakes are made they are easily adjusted and corrected.
I fucking wonder how equate repressed asexuals to woman haters could possibly be offensive to asexuals. I wonder how nonasexuals claiming to understand how repressed asexuals act could be offensive to asexuals.
I wonder at times if you do say stuff on purpose but that doesn’t erase the fact you have said problematic things and not just by my standards. So I mean you can pretend its just magical thinking and all you have not said anything but just remember that I am not the only person who has called you out on problematic things.
Anyone can understand scare quotes and I am pretty sure I put scare quotes around “abnormal” to suggest its not my thinking but others.
How common is asexuality, out of curiosity? I think I know one (possibly 2) asexuals in my circle of friends.
@indifferentsky, this is an off-topic complaint, but the psych major in me is bristled — “magical thinking” does not mean what you seem to think it means, no matter how unlikely you might find jumbo’s theory, it’s possibly true, thus it’s not magical thinking….actual examples of magical thinking include thought insertion (eg the feminists are making the MRAs lust after them by inserting lusty thoughts in their heads)
Jumbofish’s point wasn’t some magical theory that’s not even possible per the laws of physics, the point was that it’s entirely possible to be asexual, or gay, and not hate women, and also entirely possible to hate women and not be asexual or gay — there is no correlation between these things (there may well be a correlation between being a conservative asshole and hating women, gays, or asexuals, though…you have your causation in the wrong order if you think it’s being gay that makes them assholes though)
(also, a note for everyone else, particularly Chris — bisexual here, can we remember I exist too? that’d be great, thanks!)
Jesus, isn’t enough to say these guys are just plain horrible, without internet diagnosing them as mentally ill or asexual?
boomboom, intent is not magic. You should know that by now, and don’t speak for most feminists while you’re at it.
It’s the world view. I’m tellin’ ya. They have a faith based world view that entitles them to ownership of certain things by virtue of being male. A job, a car, a house, a wife, and children.
Two of these things are not like the others and can not be legally owned. MRAs are seriously pissed about this.
1 in 100 adults in the US are asexual. Some estimate that it is more than that. I am one of them. I do not hate the other 99% of the population.
These d00dz hate what they want to own and cannot.
I found the invocation of the idea that these guys might be asexual particularly inappropriate in that given the idea of ownership that thebewilderness is talking about, I can’t imagine that they would be particularly sympathetic towards asexual women.
NWO: And we have your word that the court didn’t favor you and the bad man was violent. Women are always the picture of calm peacefulness and honest to a fault. No need to hear the mans side of the story. Funny that, we always hear the womans tale of woe, while never hearing the mans side. Women are so good, aren’t they?
What you just used too many words to say is, “Citation needed”.
You first.
@indifferentsky
” Why are they standing up for the men that use the children to hurt the mother (and kids)?”
Why is your default of “men hurting the children and the mother when 84% of the time it’s woman doing that.
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“How many men want equal custody when that is not good for the children (disrupting their routine, taking the children away from mom, etc) just to avoid child support?”
Child with mother = good, child with father = bad? Is that it? The childs routine? Well why not give the child to the father and make the mother pay support. Father and child is a routine as well, isn’t it? You’re indoctrinated hatred of men is impossible to miss.
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“The laws are not to “dictate men’s actions and resources” so that’s just paranoid drivel right there.”
If the laws aren’t to dictate mens actions and resources, it’s an incredible coincidence that’s exactly what they do.
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“I’ll tell you this, too. Family court sees so much violence against women, that if a dad marches into court and says something like that out loud, they are going to tighten security for those proceedings.”
Again your hatred of men shines thru. So much violence against women? Women are perfect angels? Is that it? Once again we have numbers. Women flat out admit these days that they initiate and hit more often. What the fuck more do you need. Women are more violent, Big Daddy approves and protects.
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“I know that during my mediation, the mediator had security show up and us leave at separate times, making sure he was completely gone before I left due to some things he said during mediation, and the EXPERIENCE that office has had prior to that. I was told that after these sessions sometimes the partner that’s abusive will follow the other out and cause serious damage. The preventative measure there was not taken because the courts like to “control men”. It’s because there is a problem Had I had the legal history of abuse, they’d have looked at me the same way.
And again we have a one sided story, as always. EXPERIENCE you say? So they judge by the actions in the court/session. Woman cries, acts hysterical, feigns fear, gets all worked up. Gee, I wonder who that favors in your little sessions? By the way, the officer, who was she?
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“But guess with whom the court’s experience of the worst violence is?”
Guess what princess? if you attack a man and he beats the shit out of you, he goes to jail even though you are the initiator of the violence. The power of victimology is boundless. You’ve been taught well.
NWO used Wake Up Sheeple!
It’s not very effective…
Manboobz used Ignore!
NWO ran away….
I don’t even get pissed off at these “men” anymore. They think they will bring down the world with their marriage strike, but they constitute such an infinitesimal number, they will never make a difference. They are as small and unimportant as a fleck of feces on an otherwise sparkling toilet bowl. They are weeding themselves out of the gene pool. The human race marches on without them. Yawn.