The general line amongst manosphere misogynists is that American women are a bunch of stuck-up princesses whose “ginas” – that is, vaginas – tingle only in the presence of “thugs” and “alpha males.” But one YouTube ranter calling himself LogicJunkie has a somewhat different theory, as he recently explained in a note to the moderator of the Happier Abroad forums. American women, it turns out, are basically all Nazis at heart, “preoccupied with … eugenic perfection in males.” Let’s follow LogicJunkie’s, er, logic:
American females regard as a “creep” any guy who isn’t at least six feet tall, with a pronounced chin, a jock physique, and, in general, Ken doll good Aryan looks. And money is important, too, but not nearly as important as the physiological eugenics. So, in good Germanic fashion, I think what they’re mainly concerned about, is somehow being contaminated by the mere presence of the inferior. …
America is, now more than ever, a Germano-eugenicist death camp, wrapped in the facade of “capitalism” and “corporatism” and “pop culture” and blah, blah, blah. But it’s all about covertly advancing the genetic omnipresence of the Teutonic physiological ideal.
I hate to poop on LogicJunkie’s logic here but, dude, if all the women you’re meeting turn out to be eugenics-obsessed, Aryan-fetishizing Nazis, it does not therefore follow that all American women are eugenics-obsessed, Aryan-fetishizing Nazis. It may just mean you should stop cruising for chicks at Klan meetings.
“Maybe it is just me but MRAL’s last comment about the CEOs and their height being a “bigger problem” made me laugh. Was that a joke?!”
Absolutely not. Why in the hell would it be? Please, explain to me how this form of discrimination somehow doesn’t count. Most CEOs are tall, there is no reason for it, it is bigotry, pure and simple.
NWO, dude, I’m the millionaire’s daughter* and I admit I’m privileged (I’m also white, mostly cisgendered, thin, able-bodied, American, passing as heterosexual, neurotypical and probably about twelve thousand others I’m forgetting). That doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Try engaging with my arguments instead of my past, okay?
*Not the fun kind of millionaire. The boring kind where you can’t spend any money cuz then you’re not a millionaire anymore. But it’s still very privileged.
You guys do understand that I have a REASON for my views on women, right? I didn’t just up and decide that women were, as a whole, entitled assholes just because, you understand? This has been my experience for 21 years.
What I’m hearing from our resident MRAs today is a lot of bellyaching that women have choices. Women can date whomever they want, and it’s not me! Women can divorce at will, and they divorce me!
What’s the common factor to all of these complaints? What is the common theme? What’s the most parsimonious way to make sense of this? It could be that feminism is the problem. It could be that women in general are the problem. Or it could be that you are the problem.
So let’s see: feminism is but one influence on the sociological landscape of the modern world. Women are a large and diverse group of human beings. But you…well, there’s only one you, and it’s the same you every time.
Hmm…quite a puzzler, this is.
Actually out of wedlock and teen births (regardless of color) have much, MUCH more to do with the lack of availability of accurate sex education and birth control than anything else – it’s certainly not feminists who are arguing for defunding Planned Parenthood.
You see a lot more unintended pregnancies in religious areas like the Bible belt where birth control is harder to get and kids are subjected to abstinence-only education. So please don’t blame feminism for out of wedlock births. Other countries who don’t face the scourge of religious bullshit like we do here don’t have these problems to anywhere near the same degree.
Well golly Ozzy I will engage your truely inspired arguements. As illegitimacy increases so does all those nasty crime thingies. Also all them single mothers seem to be doing a bang up job raising those little tikes. I mean when you look at suicide rates, infantcide rates, drop out rates, crime, social dysfunction of single mothers, its waaaaaay up there compared to homes with icky daddies of all races. And it cuts across all economic boudaries with them nasty stats.
Hey I got an idea. Lets throw more money at the problem. Yaay socialism!
Wow, you’re cisgendered. Such a big fancy word, I’ll bet feminists came up with that one, huh? I’m just a man. No cis, no gendered, no construct of any kind.
OK, I give up – I usually just lurk here, but NWOslave’s weird cognitive dissonance problem has finally prompted me to post a comment. NWO wrote this:
“Oh it is a mans duty to make himself attractive to women? And do tell my precious snowflake, what will a woman do earn a man. Is it by default that she is so very precious? Perhaps heels and a short skirt?”
Hmm. OK, NWOslave, you’re horrified by the idea that a man should make himself attractive to women. In the very next sentence, you ask the question: what do women do to “earn a man,” which for the purpose of this comment I will charitably interpret to mean “make themselves attractive to men.” Next, you mention “heels and a short skirt.”
Here you go, NWO: yep, women put on heels and short skirts to Make. Themselves. Attractive. To. Men.
Did you get that? Women Try to Make Themselves Attractive to Men!!!High Heels!!11eleventy!!
So yeah, if you’re a straight dude, and you want to get laid with straight women, you should try to make yourself attractive to women.
(Am I nuts, or is this really, really obvious to anybody who actually wants a life, as opposed to weirdos who just want to prove some kinda crazy theory about – um, well, something or other?)
nwoslave, you’re annoying as hell.
Also don’t ask for any links I refuse to provide any, do your own research.
Well, that’s such a fine argument I am nearly ready to call Poe.
I’m an MRA and I don’t hate women. Funny how when it works in your favor feminists aren’t a monolithic bloc. Yet ALL MRAs are. The poor slave with his neanderthal thoughts, if only he was more progressive.
I dont think anybody was claiming that you are a tereotype; rather, that your comments here are sufficient to conclude that you, as a single individual, hate women.
@law1204
Ahh sex education, Hey, I let ya in on a little secret. Babies come from when a man and a woman have sex. It’s a patriarchial secret. But wait, you can have a turkey baster baby too. Damn I proved myself wrong.
Theres that darned birth control again, cause little kiddies are a plague that needs to be wiped out. Planned Parenthood, what a strange name for an organization that promotes either abortion or contraception, which of course would be no parenthood. Blame feminism for anything bad, Hah perish the thought.
Of course in my distorted way of thinking pregnancy isn’t a problem, infidelity is. But since feminism preaches the gospel of sex with no accountability, I am once again proven intellectually incompetant. Silly Slave.
The percentage of African-American infants born to unmarried mothers in 2008 was about 72%. High, to be sure, but not 90%. The rate for the population as a whole was about 41%.
Source: CDC.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr59/nvsr59_01.pdf
@zombie rotten mcdonald
Ahh, I see. Perhaps an example of my vile hatred of women. And if ya say I’m against abortion, I’ll have to retaliate with there would be 30 million more american women since r-v-w. Kinda shows I got a little bit a love left in me, aye?
I’ve noticed a lot of earthquakes and floods lately. Surely there must be some feminists somewhere who can be blamed.
Who cares about the divorce rate save Christian Fundamentalists who want to make subservient breeding machines out of women?
while gender is not actually a construct, marriage is. Different arrangements have been tried throughout history, and as our MRA friends like to point out, the divorce rate is currently very high. Elimination of marriage entirely as a societal structure not only allows for gays to have equal rights, but it singlehandedly eradicates the horrible horrible divorce rate!
I expect the entire Republican-Evangelical Party to be on board with this tomorrow.
“But since feminism preaches the gospel of sex with no accountability”
Exactly who do you think a woman is supposed to be accountable to for her sexuality? You?
NWO, my wife and I have two kids–two wonderful boys. We don’t want any more–my wife gets really bad postpartum depression, and she just doesn’t want to go through it again. I don’t blame her. What would you have us do? Serious question.
I’ll have to retaliate with there would be 30 million more american women since r-v-w. Kinda shows I got a little bit a love left in me, aye?
No.
Correlation is not causation, NWO. For instance, let’s take crime. Black men are overwhelmingly more likely to be imprisoned, because of the drug war– despite their equal rate of drug use with whites, blacks are overwhelmingly more likely to be convicted and are sent to prison for far longer terms. If a man is imprisoned, his partner is de facto a single mom. Therefore, higher rate of single moms which is /caused by/ the increased amount of imprisonment– not the other way around!
Given your distaste for “cisgendered,” what word would you prefer I use to describe “a person whose mental gender matches the gender assigned to them at birth”?
You all missed what I thought was the best part of NWO’s comments.
I humbly submit this as proof that every verifiable statement NWO makes is wrong. NWO: I know you won’t believe any source I cite as evidence, but the Latin alphabet is the one you’re using right now.
@Captain Bathrobe
So if we look at each “culture” per say with those high rates of single motherhood, hows that lookin by the way. Are things workin out like the plan. The old cannard of it takes a village to raise a child. Why not truck on down to one of those nice villages. You can put on a sexy little outfit and strut your stuff around midnight and prove to me what a rockin job this fatherless society is.
I’ve noticed a lot of earthquakes and floods lately. Surely there must be some feminists somewhere who can be blamed.
Best argument ever; in a debate in Minnesota, a gay rights supporter said that if we stipulate the existence of a God, how many gay people does God have to create before we concede that he wants gay people to be part of our world?
Correlation is not causation, NWO.
how many times does this need to be said. Sigh.
@katz
And your point is? Oh I’m sorry I get it, since I’m too ignorant to even know what Latin is I’m in error, again. Hey maybe you could grab a lttle Old Latin and read it to me, since you obviously can, right? At least recite the alphabet in latin for me, from memory of course. Here I’ll start ya off, Alpha, Beta…
@NWOslave
You want to talk single mothers? A lot of the single mothers I know are single mothers because they had to escape their abusive, controlling husbands.
Maybe if some husbands weren’t so abusive, the divorce rate would go down. Maybe if being a mother didn’t hurt career advancement so much, maybe if there were more family friendly workplaces, maybe single mothers wouldn’t have to be on welfare so much.