If you want to make a Men’s Rights Activist sputtering mad, try asking them if they’ve ever lifted a single solitary finger in the real world to help their fellow men. Because the overwhelming majority of them haven’t, and won’t.
They’ll complain about men getting injured or killed on the job — but they’ve never tried to organize a workplace safety campaign. They’ll wax indignant when people make jokes about prison rape — but won’t join up with other activists campaigning against this barbarism. They’ll complain that DV shelters for men are scarce, but won’t put in the effort to set up shelters of their own. The list goes on, and on.
Anyway, so the other day someone showed up on the Men’s Rights subreddit to ask why MRAs as a group are so completely inactive — except when it comes to complaining about “misandry'” online.
“Do any of you guys actually do something about the things you are complaining about?” asked a Redditor called Audiotune2.
While I whole heartedly agree with most of your opinions and beliefs of the damage feminism has done on society, men, and boys, what have you done to change that? Most of the men I’ve seen are just complaining and not doing something, and when given advice to turn around their situation, they snap at female supporters. I genuinely want to know, because I want to attend these events in support.
Men’s Rights Redditors were not pleased to find themselves questioned like this. One commenter responded by asking “why does a group of men venting their emotions offend you?” Another more pithy commenter wrote simply “fuck off.”
There were a few MRAs who claimed to be activists of some kind. One fellow noted that he had self-published a book setting forth his ideas about “Lovism,” a philosophy that he thinks should supplant both feminism and Men’s Rights activism. (It’s ranked as the 5,695,898th most popular book on Amazon, so it’s not exactly selling like hotcakes.) He’s also, he says, set up a (largely unread) blog and several online forums that he admits “haven’t taken off yet.”
A handful of others said that they had contacted their elected representatives to lobby for Men’s Rights. One claimed that they had “spent many many hours with nonprofits helping boys and men.” Another said they had “volunteered for suicide hotline support.” A few others made similar statements. No one mentioned the names of any organizations they supposedly had worked with.
A good number of the commenters tried to frame online (and offline) kvetching as a form of activism.
“I hold women accountable IRL,” said DIES-_-IRAE .”No pussy passes, no casual misandry, and no jokes.”
What a joy he must be to be around.
“I actively avoid women that openly dismiss men or speak anti-male feminist statements,” explained Iamsteve42, who may not be aware that he is doing these women a huge favor.
Others suggested that the most important thing they could do for Men’s Rights was simply to exist.
“Curently am trying to be a good role model to my peers and people around me just hoping for a lil bit of change of perspective, ” wrote someone called Stand_Alone50.
“I am building myself to be successful, famous, and influential so I can introduce my men’s rights ideologies, and use my platform to help men and mentor men. I want to change the world,” wrote PQKN051502.
“Just changing years if not decades of societal conditioning in oneself is a huge step towards changing things,” explained nyarlathotep999. “The first place anyone is enslaved is in their own mind.”
I think actual slaves might disagree with you on that one, buddy.
Other so-called activists offered little more than excuses.
Some argued that real-world Men’s Rights activism was impossible because it would face opposition from feminists. As if feminists themselves have never faced opposition.
“I dontate, I advocate, I spread the message,” wrote oafsalot.
But then I have found that any real efforts get jumped on by anti-MRA feminists who have no limits on what they will do to prevent mens-suffrage.
Pretty sure no feminists are trying to take away men’s rights to vote. (Though they do like to fantasize about doing it to woment.)
According to CaptainPrestedge, MRAs can’t be activists
[b]ecause feminism has removed our abilty to do or say anything. If you say anything for mens rights you’ll be dragged across hot coals as a misogynistic, women hating sexist. If you go to the lengths of raising funds, getting permission, support, kitting out and building a fully equipped shelter then feminists will ralley against it, chain themselves to it to prevent vulnerable men getting food and saftey then actually getting it shut down which is exactly what happened to the first male shelter not so long ago.
That’s weird, because the two men’s DV shelters that have been built in the US in the last several years were built by feminist DV activists.
ManofGod1000 went even a step further than his colleagues, suggesting that the future of Men’s Rights is pretty much entirely in women’s hands.
I have ghosted society and realize that many things are not going to change, unless a majority of women make it happen. If they do not do that, like going down to the family or divorce court building and dismantling them brick by brick, nothing will change.
At this point we should probably just call them Men’s Rights Inactivists.
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