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Erin Pizzey’s fake White Ribbon site declared officially fake by United Nations agency

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Two years ago, Men’s Rights hate site A Voice for Men decided to get into the violence prevention business, in its own backwards way, by getting up in the business of the White Ribbon Campaign, a longstanding international initiative to encourage men and boys to fight against violence against women and girls.

AVFM didn’t organize any workshops or Walks Against Family Violence or anything of the sort. Instead, it launched its own ersatz White Ribbon website, using a domain name (WhiteRibbon.org) that the real White Ribbon organization had neglected to register for itself. With a design similar to White Ribbon Australia’s site, it featured a “donate” button that sent donations straight to AVFM itself.

Though the donate button was later removed, AVFM’s “White Ribbon” site seemed pretty clearly to be a bad faith effort “designed to undermine and co-opt the real White Ribbon campaign,” as I put it at the time.

Shortly after the site’s launch, AVFM head cheese Paul Elam responded to my criticism, and similar criticism from Salon and ThinkProgress, with a thoughtful blog post inviting us all to

Go right straight to Hell you gang of bigoted, lying scumbags. That is, if Hell will even have you pieces of shit.

He also challenged the White Ribbon Campaign to

Send your lawyers. We will be happy to ride them for a while just for the fun of watching you pay the f**king bill.

Well, it turns out that White Ribbon Australia did send lawyers, taking the case to the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), the United Nations entity tasked with resolving these sorts of disputes.

And guess what? In a ruling last week, WIPO declared that, yep, the fake WhiteRibbon.org site set up by AVFM was indeed fake, a bad-faith infringement of the real White Ribbon Campaign’s trademarks intended to confuse anyone who visited the site. 

Below, some relevant passages from the WIPO’s ruling which you can read in its entirely here. “The Complainant” is the real White Ribbon Australia; “the Respondent” is Whois Privacy Protection Service/woman-blaming domestic violence “expert” and longtime AVFM ally Erin Pizzey. (While AVFM still hosts the site, it handed the official ownership of WhiteRibbon.org over to Pizzey some time ago, presumably for legal reasons.)

The Disputed Domain Name incorporates the Complainant’s WHITE RIBBON trade mark in its entirety, and is therefore identical to the Complainant’s trade mark. …

[T]he Panel also finds that the Disputed Domain Name is confusingly similar to the Complainant’s WHITE RIBBON CAMPAIGN trade mark, WHITE RIBBON DAY trade mark, WHITE RIBBON design trade mark and WHITE RIBBON NIGHT trade mark, which were all registered prior to the Respondent’s registration of the Disputed Domain Name. …

The Respondent’s Website also features a white looped ribbon against a black background, which is similar to the Complainant’s WHITE RIBBON design trade mark, and the looped white ribbon on the Complainant’s website. Both the Respondent’s Website and the Complainant’s website have a similar black and white design. Therefore, the Panel finds that the Disputed Domain Name has been used in a manner that misleads Internet users into believing that the Disputed Domain Name is associated with the Complainant … For this reason, the Panel is of the view that while the Respondent’s use of the Disputed Domain Name may be a noncommercial use, it is not a legitimate or fair use. …

The Panel accepts that the Respondent registered and has been using the Disputed Domain Name in bad faith  … with the intention of confusing Internet users into believing that the Disputed Domain Name is associated with the Complainant.

Three strikes, and Pizzey is out!

WIPO ordered Pizzey to transfer the domain name over to White Ribbon Australia.

AVFM reported the news in a post on Tuesday that is notably more subdued and sober than Elam’s original response to critics. It sounds a lot like it was written by a lawyer, or at least run past one.

But never fear! Elam managed to inject some of that old Elam magic into the otherwise pretty dry post:

AVFM CEO Paul Elam stated that, “WIPO’s panel investigated this case the same way the FBI investigated Hillary Clinton,” and added, “White Ribbon Australia are bullies with deep pockets beating an old woman in a wheelchair into submission and silence so they can continue a corrupt enterprise without dissent.”

#NotYourShield? More like #TotallyYourShield

Needless to say, old women in wheelchairs are no more entitled than young women not in wheelchairs to infringe upon the trademarks of legitimate anti-violence campaigns in a bad-faith effort to confuse Internet users and push their own line of propaganda.

The “old woman in a wheelchair,” who has clearly not been “beat[en] … into submission and silence,” had a few choice words to say about the ruling as well:

When contacted for comment, Pizzey said she was considering her legal options and viewed the ruling as a temporary setback. “I am not going to stop,” she told AVFM. “I have dedicated over 50 years of my life to educating people about family violence and I won’t be stopped now by these hoodlums.”

Hoodlums, really? Pizzey once declared that, to her,

the definition of domestic violence is quite clear: if you are not in fear of your life, you are not suffering it.

But neither she nor Elam have any problem talking about White Ribbon Australia with the same language one might use to describe a domestic abuser.

To Elam, White Ribbon Australia’s defense of its trademarks against a deliberately deceptive web site trying to undermine it is basically the same as “beating an old woman in a wheelchair into submission and silence.” To Pizzey, the real White Ribbon campaign is a bunch of “hoodlums.”

As of today, more than a week after the WIPO ruling, it doesn’t look as though Pizzey has handed over the domain name. Clicking on WhiteRibbon.org doesn’t send you to White Ribbon Australia or to any of the other other legitimate White Ribbon organizations around the world; it sends you to Pizzey’s fake site, now calling itself Honest-Ribbon.org — but still sporting the same black-and-white WhiteRibbon.org logo as before.

So I guess the lawyers aren’t quite done yet.

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Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

Any clue as to what AVfM did with the money they collected?

brian
5 years ago

I hope they continue refusing to comply and get sued into the ground.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

Hillary Clinton jab for no reason….

As of today, more than a week after the WIPO ruling, it doesn’t look as though Pizzey has handed over the domain name

Does WIPO have binding legal authority? This could get nasty if so. I relish it *rubs hands together*

davidknewton
davidknewton
5 years ago

Jesus, just read the comments. (No, don’t). I can’t believe that so many people truly think that it was somehow justifiable to create a site that so obviously attempted to ape another and then blame their victim for responding.

Do you think they’d object if someone registered a similarly-styled “voiceformen.com” and started posting articles about how not to be a complete bastard?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
5 years ago

@Parasol

Elam’s pockets, I guess ? That’s where AVfM-related money usually ends up.

Booze ain’t cheap, and he needs a lot of it to continue passing his important message to feminists that he doesn’t want blowjobs from them.

BGHilton
5 years ago

A ‘bad guys lose’ story! Been a while since I’ve seen one of these.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
5 years ago

The Voice For Men speaks for fraud and scams, how misandrist of them.

SpleenyBadger
SpleenyBadger
5 years ago

Excellent news. Ideally I’d like to see these scumbags get sued and completely shut down, but in place of that, I’ll settle for imagining their squealing and mewling because someone’s being mean to them. Their tears are delicious.

LaterSpaceCowboy
LaterSpaceCowboy
5 years ago

Any clue as to what AVfM did with the money they collected?

Oh, I dunno, probably went up Paul Elam’s nose, I would guess.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

The UN is run by feminists and Cultural Marxists. This is just a misandric conspiracy.

numerobis
numerobis
5 years ago

davidknewton: oh! that’s not a bad idea. I wonder how much the voiceformen.com parker wants for the site.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

davidknewton | September 15, 2016 at 8:25 pm
Do you think they’d object if someone registered a similarly-styled “voiceformen.com” and started posting articles about how not to be a complete bastard?

Of course they would! It’s only okay when they, the great white, cishet, male saviors of MANkind do it!

But it’s not okay when anyone else does it! Then it’s harassment, bullying, and being a “hoodlum”, supposedly.

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As a graphic designer, I would NOT (*cough*) totally want to help with that, oh no. That would be unethical in some way, I’m sure.

If I were to do this (WHICH I’M NOT SUGGESTING I WOULD EVEN DARE SUCH A THING), I’d change everything just enough to claim “fair use” though. So I don’t share their fate. I would even go so far as to claim it was a parody of some sort, or even satire. You know, mocking the original concept by actually giving out good advice to men, rather than “feeemales thinking they’re people are the cause of all our problems!”

But I wouldn’t do that, no siree! That’d be mocking the great white cishet savoirs of MANkind, and I, a mere feeemale, wouldn’t dare do such a thing!

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Sarcastic-No-Way-Kristen-Wiig-Reaction-Gif.gif

I mean, how would my feeeble lady brain even know how to do such a thing?! I mean, it’s not like I went to college and got a degree in graphic design! It’s inconceivable for me, a mere feeemale, to get a degree in such a technical field that involves so much work with computers!

I mean, good golly gosh, I barely know how to use the internet outside of looking up recipes for pies!

http://s9.favim.com/orig/130929/coach-funny-sarcasm-scott-Favim.com-959241.gif

(I think I’m overdoing it.)

jamesworkshop
jamesworkshop
5 years ago

@Victorious Parasol

Any clue as to what AVfM did with the money they collected?

Bonbons, lots and lots of Bonbons.

rogue angel
rogue angel
5 years ago

I’m enjoying this sweet, sweet schadenfreude. I’m with SpleenyBadger on this one–I’d love to see them get sued into oblivion–but I think this is at least a step in the right direction.

Ktoryx
Ktoryx
5 years ago

Just the domain? I mean, its good, but I’d rather see them lose all the money they defrauded from the charity, plus White Ribbon’s legal fees.

bekabot
bekabot
5 years ago

Any clue as to what AVfM did with the money they collected?

My guess is that it went into porn, comics, beer, and weed. And bonbons, of course (who doesn’t like bonbons?)

Overdue child support payments = another possibility.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

The Disputed Domain Name incorporates the Complainant’s WHITE RIBBON trade mark in its entirety, and is therefore identical to the Complainant’s trade mark. …

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AVFM CEO Paul Elam stated that, “WIPO’s panel investigated this case the same way the FBI investigated Hillary Clinton,” and added, “White Ribbon Australia are bullies with deep pockets beating an old woman in a wheelchair into submission and silence so they can continue a corrupt enterprise without dissent.”

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(I just really wanted to use this gif and I don’t think there’s actually a lot of uses for it but I love Dan Vs.)

Just the domain? I mean, its good, but I’d rather see them lose all the money they defrauded from the charity, plus White Ribbon’s legal fees.

That would be really nice. They might have gotten at least a couple hundred dollars from it, right? I don’t know how long the donate button was up on that website and stuff, might be thousands, but it should really go to the actual charity.

MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
5 years ago

Ktoryx-Me too. I am tired of Paul Elam and his ilk continuously getting away with their shitty behaviour. I hope they will face legal consequences if they do not abide by WIPO’s rulings.

MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
5 years ago

I also want them to be forced to repay the money they defrauded, plus some fines. Creating a fake charity website to line their own pockets was abhorrent and took the money from those who actually needed help. Gggrrrr!!!!!! Makes me so angry just thinking about it! ?

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I doubt the WIPO has the jurisdiction for the fraud portion. I’m guessing the parties defrauded (if any exist) would have to file a complaint.’

I’m sure Alan can clear that up whenever he comes along.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
5 years ago

I hope they get sued big time and all that money goes to actual shelters that actually help people and all of them will go to jail like.. forever.

Schnookums Von Fancypants, Social Justice Wario
Schnookums Von Fancypants, Social Justice Wario
5 years ago

AVFM CEO Paul Elam stated that, “WIPO’s panel investigated this case the same way the FBI investigated Hillary Clinton”

Except Hillary was found to be more or less innocent, and…you were found to be guilty. I’m guessing that mentioning the name of the hated Clinton scrambled his thought processes?

Ha ha! I kid. No thought actually went into this.

Bina
5 years ago

the definition of domestic violence is quite clear: if you are not in fear of your life, you are not suffering it.

Gee, Erin, why aren’t you telling that to all the MEN wanting to build MEN’S SHELTERS? Which, I note, AVFMorons isn’t doing for shit?

Oh yeah. That’s right. You really don’t care about victims of domestic violence. Unless they’re damn near dead, in which case you swoop in like a vulture, apparently. And lecture them on how they’re not dead enough yet, no doubt.

Ktoryx
Ktoryx
5 years ago

International law, as I (vaguely) understand it, can be very difficult to carry out. I got tangled up in a situation where my ex-roommate (a non Canadian citizen) was sued successfully for a large amount of damage to a building in Quebec. According to my lawyer, it’s one thing to find her liable in Canada, but quite another to actually get the funds while shes living outside of the country. She hasn’t set foot in Canada since the incident, and as far as I know has not paid.

Obviously this is a different situation between two different countries, but I imagine it may have some similarities; even when the case is cut and dried as this one is, it’s much easier to prosecute it internally than enforce it internationally. I could be wrong, of course, I’m not a lawyer.

I imagine it could also get sticky when it comes to claiming damages. You’d have to get your hands on donation records for the fraudulent site, which I doubt they would give willingly, and I don’t know how difficult it would be to get a subpoena for that. Then you’d need to show that some of those donations were made with the intention of giving to the real charity. Again, I’m just theorizing.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

Except Hillary was found to be more or less innocent, and…you were found to be guilty. I’m guessing that mentioning the name of the hated Clinton scrambled his thought processes?

Do… do you think it’s possible that he thinks he was the complainant, and that the WIPO were actually investigating the White Ribbon Campaign, on his behalf?

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