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MGTOWs think it’s hilarious that Charlie Sheen may have given HIV to “hypergamous” women

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In the interview with the Today show in which he acknowledged that he’s HIV positive, Charlie Sheen declared that HIV is “a hard three letters to absorb.”

Over on Reddit’s Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the regulars are responding to claims that Sheen may have had sex with 200 or more partners since becoming HIV positive with three other letters: LOL.

In a post with the told-you-so headline “Hypergamy Bites Back: Sheen Fucks 200+ Women After Being Diagnosed With HIV,” Redditor Factushima, whose comment history is filled with contributions to the MGTOW, MensRights and TheRedPill subreddits, declares:

Hypergamy Bites Back: Sheen Fucks 200+ Women After Being Diagnosed With HIV. (self.MGTOW) submitted 18 hours ago by Factushima http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/charlie-sheen-hiv-lawsuit/ Who would have thought riding the cock carousel was such a dangerous job. I'll bet right now there are hundreds of women who wished they had thought better of sleeping with a guy simply because he had money and had been on TV. What an insane waste of life.

The possibility that “cock carousel”-riding women may have contracted HIV from Sheen makes some of Reddit’s MGTOWs positively giddy. Some of their responses:

ransay3277 9 points 13 hours ago WINNING!

enry-invisible-h 4 points 16 hours ago They wanted the tiger blood. They got it.

Isaiah4verse1 2 points 18 hours ago TS for them! I don't know why they're suing him. They probably won't live long enough to spend his money. LOL

(I assume that in this context, TS means either “Tough Shit” or “Totally Sweet.”)

There were a few critics of Sheen as well. Like this gentleman with the lovely username “drippingdownherbreas” (sic).

drippingdownherbreas 2 points 7 hours ago Hypergamous whores. Sheen's still a giant asshole though.

As are you all, MGTOWs, as are you all.

 

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Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
6 years ago

“Also, dipshit MRAs–sleeping with Charlie Sheen (or any other celebrity) doesn’t make these women “hypergamous” even by your own horribly twisted definition, unless the women were in relationships at the time with men who were unaware of their dalliance with Sheen. I strongly suspect that most of Sheen’s encounters have been with women who were not, in fact, involved with anyone else in particular.”

They mean those women passed up “indicators of interest” from “regular Joe’s” for Charlie. But let’s examine this idea that women trade up. If that were the case we’d see women en masse divorcing every 2 years or so for someone “more alpha” than the previous husband. So most women would be married and divorced dozens of times before old age and death.

LankyYankee
LankyYankee
6 years ago

One of my friends has a latex allergy, so she uses lamb skin (or alternative materials) because she can’t use standard condoms. She has to special order them online. Because they don’t work so well for STIs she’s pretty careful about testing before sleeping with people.

me and not you
me and not you
6 years ago

… I see lambskin all the time sold as latex free. I was kind of weirded out the first time I saw them, but they certainly exist. I don’t know why you would use them unless you couldn’t wear latex though, since they’re supposed to reduce feeling even more and not prevent STDs

freemage
6 years ago

VooT: That’s just it, though–you’re only ‘trading up’ if you have something that you’re trading out of in the first place. Sheen clearly likes his sexual relations to be as uncomplicated as possible; a jealous boyfriend/husband is likely to actually be something that makes a woman less interesting to him.

If they’re saying hypergamy means… women exercising choice in whom they will and will not sleep with? Well, okay, yes, I suspect these shits actually do have a problem with that, but they’re usually trying desperately not to admit it.

ikanreed
ikanreed
6 years ago

There’s no way MEN would sleep with an attractive popular movie star given a chance.

There’s no double standard, no unreasonable expectations for men, no nothing other than them being judgmental pricks.

mouse
mouse
6 years ago

“The moral of the story ought to be if you have HIV and you know it, tell your partners. ”

This. Charlie Sheen deserves sympathy for having HIV. But he doesn’t deserve sympathy for failing to tell any partner about his HIV+ status. Consent means informed consent.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
6 years ago

Ugh. I’d say these people are repellent, but… I mean, this is the behaviour I expect from them. I can’t rouse an appropriate level of anger at it, just a sort of cynical ‘that’s what I figured you’d say’ feeling of disgust.

Need a vacation from the human species for awhile. Any suggestions?

Bryce
Bryce
6 years ago

@freemage

I thought hypergamy was just a general term for ‘marrying up’. Anyway it’s hard to see how it even applies to casual sexual encounters with a celebrity.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

OT: Some high school kid stabbed a girl in the neck after she refused to go to prom with him because she was going with her boyfriend. He brought the knife to school the day he stabbed her so it was premptive. :/

The article is also terrible.

Virtually Out of Touch
Virtually Out of Touch
6 years ago

“I thought hypergamy was just a general term for ‘marrying up’.”

It is. The ninny-nanny Nanosphere hijacked the term for their own purposes.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Virtually,
Some people have thin lips. I’m not sure why you needed to bring that up. There’s a lot of villainy to go around. No need to mock a physical feature that plenty of non-assholes have.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Pandapool,
That story is a year old. I remember it though.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

@WWTH

I must not have read the date correctly then wth. Sorry.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
6 years ago

Wow, I really read the year wrong because it states in big bold print ONE YEAR AGO in bold. Jesus. I am bad at reading today.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I’m just relieved it didn’t happen again!

Gianvittorio
Gianvittorio
6 years ago

The morals is always use protection. You might be monogamous but your partner might not. And get tested regularly. And do never do it in the back without protection NEVER. HIV is not the death sentence it used to be but antiretroviral drugs sucks. And PEP has also nasty effects. I know it very well. Cover up. It is worth it.

dhag85
6 years ago

Ew. I just read in the news about a suuuuper creepy case of a 40 year old dude who paid a 14 year old girl for sex, but was not convicted of statutory rape because he claimed not to know her real age (she looked older! she seemed sexually experienced!). Even though she had told him in a text she was 14! She had literally told him straight up: “I’m 14”, and he’s still getting away with saying he didn’t know she was 14. The trick? He thought she was “age playing”. Not kidding. What the fuck, society.

Sofia van der Linde
Sofia van der Linde
6 years ago

I checked. It turns out Lambskins are sold country but only with the very specific warning they do not protect against STDs. Other latexfree Condoms do protect against STDs so why these things are even sold is beyond me.
Polyurethane, polyisoprene or other synthetic materials are all cheaper than lambskin and there is less loss of sensation.

dhag85
6 years ago

@wwth

The coven! Best thing I saw today.

Antisocialite
Antisocialite
6 years ago

I’m tired of the whole hypergamy argument. It’s nonsensical to me; like men don’t dump women everyday for someone “better”. As a matter of fact, other men would consider them out of their minds for not going for it, so they can just stick their resentment that women have choices where the sun don’t shine.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
6 years ago

Baw. Thank you, @weirwoodtreehugger

Orion
6 years ago

lambskin condoms, which prevent pregnancy but do jack against STDs. So it isn’t like there was no attempt at using protection.If I understand the science correctly, that’s a gross exaggeration. It’s a common misconception that PP and Trojan are relatively happy to let stand because it’s safer to just steer everyone away from lambskin than to have a nuanced conversation about it. I don’t blame them, honestly. However:

The truth is that we don’t know how effective lambskin is against STIs. Tons and tons of studies have shown that latex and polyurethane are extremely effective; therefore, health educators and doctors focus on convincing patients to use the ones we already know to be both cheap and safe. Lambskin isn’t widely used and we don’t have many big longterm studies on users.

The key phrase you see on a lot of product descriptions or health websites is “”lambskin should not be used to prevent STIs”, not “lambskin provides no protection at all against STIs.” The idea is that if there are well-studied, extremely-reliable options, you should use those rather than gambling on an unknown quantity — which is a totally reasonable point. I would also not recommend switching to lambskin if you have serious concern about STIs.

However, the reality is that lambskin is almost certainly more than 0% protection — maybe a lot more. Maybe as good or nearly as good as latex. I’m told that the idea that lambskin was dangerous didn’t come from studies of users, but from lab tests on the condoms themselves, and that the condoms were subjected to some pretty extreme conditions. Researchers demonstrated that HIV can pass through a lambskin condom by doing like mixing up some water with a very high concentration of HIV, filling the condom with liquid, letting it sit for several hours, and then checking the outside to see if any of the virus had passed through. It failed that test, while latex passed, so that’s definitely a point for latex. On the other hand, people rarely fill a condom with semen and leave it there for hours, so it’s not clear how big a problem this is.

I was under the impression that HIV transmission via lambskin was like pregnancy via pre-ejaculate, or HIV transmission via oral — there a physical mechanism by which it could happen, so doctors tell you not to take the risk, but we’re not sure that it ever actually does happen.

Orion
6 years ago

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Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

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