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Tell Her That Her Soul Is Dog-Sh*t: Dating advice from A Voice for Men

Note: Method described in following post will not have this effect
Note: Method described in following post will not have this effect

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So over on A Voice for Men, young Jason Gregory seems faintly jealous that young  women who put up dating profiles online tend to get flooded with messages — and the occasional dick pic — from horny guys.

F]ree cock is everywhere. Men give it away like it’s worthless. … I doubt that it is unusual at all for a woman to get 300 messages in her inbox from men who are desperate for female affection, approval, and sex. There is no doubt in my mind that men send “dick-pics” and clamor, bother, and sometimes harass women for their affections and attentions.

But Jason feels no sympathy for young women who put up profiles hoping to meet some nice young fellow who’s also into Sherlock and Neil Gaiman and Indian food and instead get messages from guys who introduce themselves by expressing a desire to ejaculate in their hair.

No, Jason is angry because he’s convinced all these offers of “free cock” only serve to make the women of the world into snooty-stuck stuck-up so-and-sos who think they’re all that and a folder full of dick pics.

All you men who give it away, all you do is reinforce the entitlement mentality of women who believe that their being present is plenty. You reinforce the idea that women don’t owe anything to the relationship—that they deserve a free-ride of cocks and that they don’t even have to break a sweat.

Jason, I should add, means this last bit literally. He’s resentful that when he allegedly engages in the act of coitus he has to do all the work while his alleged partners allegedly lie there like inflatable love-dolls.

Anyhoo,.Jason has a plan to take these stuck-up ladies down a peg or two: A cock strike.

Yep, he wants men to start saying “no” to women who are interested in them, just to see how they like it. But he doesn’t want them to just say no. He wants them to be giant dicks about it.

Try telling a girl no. Tell her, after she makes it clear that she wants your cock, that you’re not interested in giving it to her. Tell her that she isn’t interesting, that her soul is dog-shit and that she has nothing to offer other than boobs and booty, that she is a piece of shit and a total failure as a human being, that you don’t find her attractive and that she isn’t even good enough to be a cum-bucket. Tell her that she is never going to be any good at sucking cock and that she needs to stop pretending that she is doing any favors and learn to compensate for her inadequacies by becoming “kinky.” Tell her that her vapid life of shoes and pop-culture and materialism are soulless pursuits of dog-shit. Watch what happens. If you Jez-ladies wanna know what “hostile” means, see this rejected woman.

Emphasis mine.

A Voice for Men, you may recall, sees itself as leading the most important civil rights movement of the 21st century. I am sure Jason Gregory’s post here will be remembered alongside Martin Luther King’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail as a classic in civil rights literature.

EDIT: I added a couple more “allegedlys” to a sentence I thought needed them.

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cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
8 years ago

(Hugs)

And yeah, I’m sure that they do on some level know exactly what they’re doing.

Diana Adams
Diana Adams
8 years ago

Teen? The first incidents of really openly sexualized harassment that I recall happened when I was 9, and I’m betting I’m not the only one.

Yeah, I meant early teen 11-12 y.o. for some unfortunately it starts even earlier. And these are not peers, but mostly grown men. Then they think it’s feminists who teach women to fear aggressive male sexuality and not every woman’s personal experiences. Not all men do this apparently but it appears that enough of them do it to make the experience almost universal.

titianblue
titianblue
8 years ago

Hugs if you’d like them, Shayla. THat is so horrible.

At age around 10 or 11, I answered the phone to a (male of course) whisperer who tried to find out who & where I was, before I unfroze and hung up but at least there were no sexual fantasies. I remember the terrifying nightmares that somehow he knew where our house was and would find me, may he tread forever on lego. Thankfully, this was in ancient times before re-dial etc.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

Doesn’t matter whether it’s an explicit or implicit no, either way they know what it means and they don’t want to accept it.

This is it exactly. They know what the answer is. What they want is our culture’s continued permission to ignore that “no” until they get the answer they want.

And you’re definitely not the only one, harassment started when I was a little girl and answered the house phone to some pedo and his detailed fantasies, amped up once I was 11, and continued on. I wonder if deep down catcallers and sexual harrassers know they’re tapping into childhood fear. Probably.

It breaks my heart that so many women’s early experiences with men are harassment.

shayla
shayla
8 years ago

Thank you for the kind messages, they are very appreciated. Hugs from me in return for all of you who’ve been through harassment, or haven’t but sympathize rather than excusing.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

David, what are the MRAs saying about this case?

http://gawker.com/man-sentenced-to-13-years-for-tricking-woman-into-takin-1511357221

The Gawker commetariat have outed themselves as the brogressives they are and are busy trotting out the basic MRA talking points (“women have more rights than men because they can force men to have children!”). I can only imagine what the MRAs are saying about it.

shayla
shayla
8 years ago

Good gravy, those Gawker comments. Even the non-MRAs wringing their hands over how the sentence is too severe. Hello?! He poisoned her and took her fetus and let’s not forget, POISONED HER?

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

That’s the word that has to be repeated again and again. POISON. He POISONED her. He also forged a medical physician’s signature to obtain medication in order to POISON her. The sentence is not only for the forced abortion.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

And I seriously cannot believe how casually they are glossing over the whole “pregnancy and childbirth” part of the equation when they try to argue that having a child is unfair to the man!! WHAT?! Bodily integrity, people.

Sam-I-Was?
Sam-I-Was?
8 years ago

@Argenti, thank you for letting me board the newest unicorn, the kids will be so excited!

For all the new trolls popping out of the woodwork, Nah uh, you’re wrong!!!! is not a valid argument to make if you are over the age of 4. As someone who has slowly been working their way through the archives you have a long way to go if you want to rank with the older trolls.

And for all of the community that was and/or is being hurt and harassed I offer you a box of hugs if you are interested.

shayla
shayla
8 years ago

I still can never wrap my brain around people who think child support is the heaviest burden EVAR, much more than hosting another organism inside your own body for 3/4 of a year, giving up space for your own organs, going through sickness, huge body changes, medical risk, loss of work time, incredible pain at the end and then y’know, 18 years of being a custodial parent and actually raising a small person who depends on you and requires sacrifices in time, money, and major life rearrangement. Needless to say a lot of people consider it more than worth it, but there’s no denying it’s a big deal. Nah, none of that compares to cutting a check. And children who didn’t ask to be brought into the world, so awful to have to make sure yours can eat and go to school with shoes on.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

My brother is the custodial parent of his two children, because his wife decided she never wanted kids and abandoned them. She didn’t give him a dime until he took her to court to file for support, and she thought he was just terrible and evil for doing that. She won’t hold a job so sometimes he gets $50 a week, most of the time he gets nothing. She owes him over $4000 in support now. But even if she was fully paid up, he’d still be doing the lion’s share of raising those kids. Because the custodial parent is the one who does most of the work, PERIOD. Whether it’s the father or the mother.

leatapp
leatapp
8 years ago

*raises hand*
No way. No how.

LOL! Buttboy is upset that reality has a feminist bias.

leatapp
leatapp
8 years ago

Chie,
I’m sorry to hear that about your brother and his kids. It sounds like the best thing she ever did for her family was leaving them. 🙁

shayla
shayla
8 years ago

Yep. My cousin is the custodial parent to his son too, the arrangement was a mature decision between the two parents that he was better suited for it, and he is. Most of the work is definitely his, and his second wife’s. To the bio mom’s credit, she’s done her responsibility with payments. You can predict that MRA opinions on child support turn on a dime depending on which gender is paying. I don’t even know how it became such a man vs woman thing anyway when it’s about children, I guess kids can go pound sand and women are just expected to carry all the burden from the pregnancies they inflict on men (snort).

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

I’m sorry to hear that about your brother and his kids. It sounds like the best thing she ever did for her family was leaving them.

I also agree that it’s for the best; kids know when their parents don’t want them and it hurts them a lot in the long run. My brother has a decent job with benefits but still hurting financially and has been living with my parents for the past few years.

Yep. My cousin is the custodial parent to his son too, the arrangement was a mature decision between the two parents that he was better suited for it, and he is. Most of the work is definitely his, and his second wife’s. To the bio mom’s credit, she’s done her responsibility with payments.

Well that’s good. It’s better for the kids if parents can agree that they don’t belong together but also be mature about it and not use the kids against each other.

Bina
Bina
8 years ago

Also, I’ve performed the experiment myself and did not have anything like the alleged experience described by the alleged male.

[…]

I used a picture of a very attractive young woman. I think I put down 25 as her age.

I don’t think I checked “casual sex”, but I do remember I tried to lure in these alleged hordes of abusive men by acting flirty in my profile, by doing things like listing “sex” under “things I could never do without”.

I ultimately got around 40 messages over the course of a few days. There were a few crude messages, but they were a distinct minority. As expected, most of them were friendly. As expected, I was able to conclude that jezebel was full of it.

This account IS bullshit. No “almost certainly” about it. How do I know? Because I’m a woman who doesn’t even USE dating sites, for precisely the reasons other posters have already detailed. Merely being present on the internet, visibly female, and offering an opinion, particularly an intelligent, thought-out one, is putting yourself out there for all kinds of harassment and abuse. I’m not active on many fora anymore, and I refrain from debates on Facebook except among trusted friends. And I’ve had literally HUNDREDS of harassing, threatening and abusive messages…not from prospective dates or sex partners, but just random weird-ass dudes who’ve read my blog and think I need shutting down or “to be taught a good lesson”. I’ve even been threatened on Twitter by guys I don’t know and have never engaged in any kind of conversation! So pardon me if I don’t believe a word you bloviate.

And kindly take your shit elsewhere. I suggest the toilet. And don’t forget to flush and wash your hands.

Bina
Bina
8 years ago

The Gawker commetariat have outed themselves as the brogressives they are and are busy trotting out the basic MRA talking points (“women have more rights than men because they can force men to have children!”). I can only imagine what the MRAs are saying about it.

I read a small sampling of those comments yesterday and couldn’t stop palming my face. Those guys…they’re so DIM! They don’t get that 13 years is nothing for administering a noxious substance, causing bodily harm, AND practicing medicine without a licence. That guy deserved a lot more than he got. What do you bet that he gets time off for good behavior and picks up again like nothing happened when he gets out…if he even serves time at all?

I don’t believe abortion is murder, and anyone who does gets very short shrift from me. What bugs me about this story is how many guys think the man’s opinion and will should override that of the woman, and that even grievous bodily harm is okay for him to inflict whenever. Hello? It’s HER body. It’s HER pregnancy. It’s SHE who was harmed by this deliberate and dangerous drugging. If he doesn’t want a kid, he should have thought of that and taken precautions before he inserted himself. It’s not as though men have no options, birth-control-wise.

Ally S
8 years ago

So far I haven’t received any creepy messages on my fake OKC account, but one guy told me “You probably shouldn’t give your name out to everyone- that takes away the mystery.”

o_O

catgirl
catgirl
8 years ago

I had to shut down my blog many years ago, because a reader figured out my real name and address and proceeded to send me sex toys and other things….

freemage
freemage
8 years ago

I forget–was buttboy the troll that found the Panera Bread Equal Seating story to be totally plausible? Because if so, it adds an extra layer of irony to his denial of the Jezebel story.

Mnemosyne
Mnemosyne
8 years ago

@Ally:

That’s pretty weird. Have you thought about trying a different dating site? The men of OKC are pretty infamous for being horrible and/or creepy.

@catgirl:

The only proper response to those kind of things is: “Y u do?” Seriously, I don’t understand why some guys on the Internet just fly off the handle when a woman writes something. Why do they turn creepy like that? It’s even worse when she writes something they don’t like…. Those threats are seriously messed up. O_o

Bina
Bina
8 years ago

Meanwhile, for those who doubt that female visibility is the issue, here is a pastor who would like nothing better than to see us all in burqas.

Mnemosyne
Mnemosyne
8 years ago

@Ally:

Sorry for my heteronormativity. It only seems to be a real problem if you’re interested in men. If you like women, then I suppose OKC will be more tolerable. Stupid, Mnemosyne.
-_-‘

Ally S
8 years ago

I listed my orientation as bisexual.

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