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Spearheader: A female student’s critical column on Columbus proves women don’t deserve college educations

Hey, I kidnapped some people for you!
Look, I kidnapped some people for you!

Our dear friend W.F. Price of The Spearhead celebrated Columbus Day yesterday with a post suggesting that “American girls” are too weak-minded to deserve college educations.

Price’s misogyny is nothing new, but what, you may wonder, is the connection to Columbus Day? Well, you see, Price ran across a column in the Daily Nebraskan by a female student named Shelby Fleig that was, well, rather critical of Mr. Columbus, pointing out, among other things, that he kidnapped and enslaved many of those he encountered in the Americas.

Fleig’s piece is a tad simplistic at times — at one point it says that when Columbus arrived in the Americas he encountered a “civilization close to 14,000 years old,” which is just plain wrong; there were people in the Americas around 14,000 years ago, but there were no civilizations anywhere on earth that far back. Still, the piece certainly reflects reality far more closely than anything you’ll find on The Spearhead on any given day.

To Price, though, the column is such an unpatriotic abomination that he considers it evidence that education is wasted on women. No, really.

Little Ms. Fleig certainly has it in for her forefathers, but is it really her fault? Probably not. She, like most other college girls, is simply parroting what’s been fed to her by her profs. Girls are good at that, which is why teachers like them so much — they’re easy.

If you’re the father of an American girl, is this really what you want your daughter to absorb over the course of four years? Does it add any value whatsoever to the family or to the nation?

I’m not sure what specifically Price is objecting to about Fleig’s account — aside from its mild profanity (the word “bullshit”) and its less-than-reverential tone towards an icon of American history. But he offers no rebuttal, perhaps because he really can’t. While Fleig may be a bit ahistorical in her judgment of Columbus, it’s a fact that he kidnapped and enslaved hundreds of natives and committed other atrocities. It’s a fact that he paved the way for conquest and genocide. History isn’t pretty.

But Price is only getting started, telling fathers of “American girls” that

Your money would be much better spent sending her to sewing or baking school. Let’s face it: Ms. Fleig isn’t going to discover the cure for cancer. Despite being an attractive young woman, she isn’t going to colonize Mars, either (at her size, she’d be too expensive to launch out of the Earth’s atmosphere).

Yep, he goes there. No manosphere screed is complete without a bit of gratuitous fat-shaming.

In all likelihood, the best she could hope for is a nonprofit or government job fully funded by her father’s and brother’s tax bills.

Because girls can’t handle real jobs. Because jobs at nonprofits or with the government aren’t real jobs. Because nonprofits are funded entirely by the government. And because only men pay taxes.

And yet she represents 60% of college students. What an enormous, unsustainable waste. It’s impolitic to point it out, but from a cost-benefit point of view, in most cases higher education is entirely wasted on women, and as in Ms. Fleig’s case is often counterproductive.

So that’s Price’s thoughtful and logical rebuttal to Fleig’s article: a post that addresses none of her arguments, posits the natural inferiority of women, and attacks her for her apparent weight.

Let’s see what the highly erudite Spearhead readers have to say about it in the comments.

Gender Foreigner suggests that women, born to obey, are simply obeying the wrong people:

Women don’t know how to think: they know how to obey. So, let’s tell them what to do. What they lack is MEN to obey instead of girls to obey. Barefoot, pregnant in the kitchen, obeying masculine will. As long as they do that they will feign civility.

Dire Badger, for his part, acknowledges that Columbus did a lot of terrible things, but argues that this doesn’t matter because reasons. He also uses profanity, though Price doesn’t step in to rebuke him for that.

[I]n the end, individual racial and cultural atrocities mean NOTHING the moment the last person that witnessed them dies…. but things like achievements in literature, art, science… the true immortality that keeps building as part of a cultural intellectual inheritance. The only meaning that such atrocities have is to teach us NOT TO DO THEM AGAIN. Anything else is beating the dead victim horse for no benefit whatsoever, and merely punishes the people that had NOTHING to do with the original atrocity.

In short, columbus opened up america for expansion. He sailed the ocean blue in a way that hadn’t been achieved for nearly 400 years since the vikings.
As for the rest? FUCK YOU. Get over it already, you pussy.

In a followup comment, he adds:

Columbus rediscovered America by a monumental navigational goofup… funny story… What he did afterwards doesn’t concern me except as an object lesson. I honor the accomplishment but have no reason to diminish it by sorrow over a bunch of people who would still be more than 400 years dead if Columbus had never existed.

Schlomo, meanwhile, is mad at Fleig for not blaming Columbus’ mom for the whole thing:

What irks me is that feminists constantly blame only men– and then mostly white men– for all evil in the world. They don’t look at women’s roles in raising boys to be exploiters; or in bedding “bad boys” (thus rewarding their brutality); or in serving as Nazi prison guards, etc.

White females helped run plantations in the Old South and ran them alone during the Civil War. Ergo, it’s a lie that gals are innately “better” than guys. After all, they became queens of men feminists now demonize… and sometimes were the evil-incarnate leaders of countries themselves.

Nowhere, of course, do feminists praise men for the creating the Magna Carta or washing machines or hi-fi systems. No kudos, either, for males who wiped out polio and provided potable water. Also, no credit for inventing penicillin or making cars safer. Always and everywhere feminists blame-blame-blame. You never hear them collectively apologize for THEIR shite, like their hysterical historical foresisters’ White Feather campaigns… or sleeping with the enemy.

Where is the condemnation of Sacagawea for helping Whitey conquer her “people”?

It’s like domestic violence: fembots never talk about the equal evil women do.

Wilson, meanwhile, decides that Fleig is the truly evil one, not Columbus, based on a bunch of TRUE FACTS about her he’s pulled from his own posterior:

Conquest through genocide is not actually immoral, since there is no “social contract” being violated, though the greed of it may be questionable. Fleig would support a genocide against whites, so she is in no position to judge anyway, and her motivations–spite, malice, nihilism, betrayal–are much more evil than Columbus’s straightforward and productive ambition

But Fleig does have one defender amongst the Spearhead regulars, a fella named Dragnet, who happily declares that “corn-fed” gals like her please his penis. No, really, that’s his argument.

Being from the Midwest myself, I find her buxom, corn-fed heft absolutely delightful. I have had more than a few liaisons with her similarly endowed Midwestern sisters–to this day my manhood rises in salute.

What I wouldn’t give for more women on the east coast to be built like Miss Fleig. There’s a well-built, fulsome hardiness to the women of the Midwest that you really don’t find out East. God bless them all.

Well, I’m glad these superior-brained, independent-minded men have put us all straight on these important historical issues.

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Yoyo
Yoyo
8 years ago

Hey ak, thanks for the comments. I’m not looking to guilt trip anyone. I genuinely feel compassion for some of them because they seem so unhappy.

Thanks about feminism. Again, I think people here would find pelle billing interesting : http://pellebilling.com

I know. It’s funny cause contrary to stereotypes, the most ardent feminist I know is a beautiful, tall, slender ginger lady who is in a happy relationship with a guy. It’s adorable, lol. I think she struggled with bullying, low self esteem and body image/eating disorder issues and that’s influenced why she is one 🙂

What do people here think about christina hoff sommers and the equity/gender feminism dichotomy? I used to think ‘fuck yeah!’ But now I starting to think its a false and flawed dichotomy :/ I did find a black, prolife feminist that I’ll pull up later as well 🙂

I’m still not a fa of the identity studies departments in colleges, though. I find them political by definition and often Mickey Mouse courses. I support either making them more intellectually rigorous and academically serious, or integrating them into more traditional disciplines like anthropology or something.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Ah drunks, always fun. Sorry you had to encounter one. Wait, wtf time is it there?! *checks* 2ish? And that drunk? Dafuq?

And speaking of asking people out, I grew a pair, FedEx kid is talking to someone, not sure if serious, can I leave my contact info again though? So, all in all, not bad. Though I have to get up at fuck o’clock to do that.

kittehserf
8 years ago

We weren’t even sure if he was drunk or off his face on something else or what. He was between ranting about what a horrible constellation the Southern Cross is (yes really) and going on about how all the rules and regulations of being at sea are just distractions They create to keep you away from The Real Story, whatever the fuck that is. So, another boring conspiracy theorist who someone’s bloody silly enough to let out on a boat.

Thing that gets me with drunks is there’s no telling if they’re about to get aggressive. Loud and blathering equal aggressive to me, especially coming from a man. That fuckwit was frightening. My colleague (the boss is out) asked a customer he knows to stay in the shop while drunk was here.

kittehserf
8 years ago

*that should read “‘They’ create them to keep you away from The Real Story”.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Yeah, noted about the risk of getting aggressive, but wtf? I cannot wrap my head around his issue. Is the court a pirate ship?

kittehserf
8 years ago

LOL I could have done with someone making him walk the plank. Or be thrown in irons, at least.

kittehserf
8 years ago

If only we’d had a flag with gold fringe on display …

opheliamonarch
8 years ago

Bloody hell Kitteh, sorry! That last email was sent before I saw your comment about the drunk, are you okay?
Posting here ’cause I figured you’d probably see it quicker.
STAY SAFE! And don’t hesitate to call the police!

opheliamonarch
8 years ago

Kitteh, Bugger, guess I just posted on Man Boobz! 🙂

kittehserf
8 years ago

GREAT BIG HUGS and welcome back, I just replied, and yeah, we’re fine, creepy drunk is gone!

Now where are those kitty vids …

AK
AK
8 years ago

Argenti, I’m sorry about your psych troubles. I’m dealing with that (in a support capacity) with a loved one who can’t get care without assistance. He developed an addiction as self-medication, and is now trying to get clean, but needs psych help due to the underlying mental illness. We’ve been to 3 psychs so far who all just want to focus on the addiction and not address the underlying disorder because They Know What’s Best Always…despite the fact that the underlying disorder was diagnosed before he became an addict and he only developed the addiction after he lost his health insurance and couldn’t afford his medication and therapy anymore, as a quick glance at his medical history would tell them. It is so unbelievably frustrating even to watch a loved one go through that kind of BS; I can’t imagine what you are going through.

AK
AK
8 years ago

Er, for the record, I said “trying to get clean” out of habit. He’s actually been clean for 14 months so far, but needs to treat his mental illness to stay clean long-term.

opheliamonarch
8 years ago

Kitteh, that was so confusing, email, Man Boobz, email, Man Boobz.

But seriously, are you okay?

Kitty videos? But won’t that bring down the tone? I mean, shouldn’t we be examining the complex inner workings of the MRA ‘mind’?

Nah, fuck it!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e8jiP5GAQbE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3De8jiP5GAQbE

kittehserf
8 years ago

Confusion is our forte!

It’s okay, we’re all fine. The idiot left under his own steam, nothing happened. I’m scared of any drunks, regardless of what they’re doing.

Lower the tone? DO IT! 😀

kittehserf
8 years ago

Stupid embedding!

http://youtu.be/e8jiP5GAQbE

cloudiah
8 years ago

Scary drunks are scary. Glad you’re okay, Kitteh!

opheliamonarch
8 years ago

Why, why? I not understand? Shouldn’t it embed automatically?

kittehserf
8 years ago

Didja copy the text from the “share” box on youtube? It should work that way.

Unless, of course, Basement Cat is messing things up.

Okay, I’m off to go YARN SHOPPING!!!11eleventy! Catch yez later!

opheliamonarch
8 years ago

Kitteh, so glad you’re okay, remember no wool!

Gonna try again *prays to the embed monster*

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kI4yoXyb1_M

Now I’ve successfully brought down the tone, I’m goin’ to bed, and whilst there I shall ponder on my lack of empathy for MRAs who couldn’t give a shit about me.

Also, Argenti, can totally empathise Psychs suck! Hope things get better. 🙁

opheliamonarch
8 years ago

Gah!

I’m being punished for mocking Paul ‘women deserve to be raped’ Elam!

Must repent…must repent…

Ally S
8 years ago

Oh hi opheliamonarch! Welcome back! =D

Shaenon Garrity
8 years ago

That way, you’ll force him to state what he supports/opposes and why, instead of empty bolstering about “unconditional surrender.”

I almost posted on that thread asking Price to define “unconditional surrender.” Who surrenders? All the feminists in the world? All the women? Is it okay if only a certain number of feminists surrender? Or just the famous ones? What form should the surrender take? Do we go outside and wave white flags until someone from the Spearhead comes along to formally accept our surrender? What are the terms? I mean, aside from being unconditional. Do we have land we have to cede?

I can’t not be snarky with these guys.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Bloody pads? Or is that too icky for them? Oh I know! Recipe books, shouting which ones you’ll be making for dinner!

AK — hurting me I can deal with, hurting the people I love? You Do Not Do That. Watching that and having your efforts be fruitless is literally the stuff my nightmares are made of (well, not so well defined usually, but yeah, that’s the level “you do not mess with my friends” runs at)

In other words, I’m so sorry and wish you and your friend luck in finding a decent psych.

Meds psych’s other recent BS is how my fucked up is all just a trauma reaction, to which our lovely mushroom gravatar clad Sir Pecunium said so the fuck what, what difference does it make what caused it, it still affects me as it does. But I guess it makes sense if she’s of the “pray it away” school — I just need to forgive! *gags*

I am so glad I can’t get a ride on the only day she’s there, my mother’s new schedule is lovely in that regard.

Of course, one or the other of them decided that visiting pecunium, and doing MoMA, means I can handle people. Let’s just ignore where we kept having to swap around since we both wanted eyes on the other. And where I ended up making him sit outside with me for an hour after rush hour subway was nearly a panic attack in public (that one is forgiven, nix the guilt trip pecunium, you didn’t know, it’s cool) Yeah, it isn’t that I’m just fine with NYC, it’s that my destination is not the city and I feel far safer with him than here with my asswipe male parental unit.

And this is rapidly becoming the All About Argenti show, so I’m gonna end this now.

katz
8 years ago

So I was already unimpressed with Yoyo and zir feminism rejecting, cat video hating, snark disapproving ways, but this is putting it over the line into “fuck off” territory:

I’m still not a fa [sic] of the identity studies departments in colleges, though. I find them political by definition and often Mickey Mouse courses. I support either making them more intellectually rigorous and academically serious, or integrating them into more traditional disciplines like anthropology or something.

cloudiah
8 years ago

Oh that’s fucked up. I’ll accept hating cat videos, but please

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