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Spearheader: A female student’s critical column on Columbus proves women don’t deserve college educations

Hey, I kidnapped some people for you!
Look, I kidnapped some people for you!

Our dear friend W.F. Price of The Spearhead celebrated Columbus Day yesterday with a post suggesting that “American girls” are too weak-minded to deserve college educations.

Price’s misogyny is nothing new, but what, you may wonder, is the connection to Columbus Day? Well, you see, Price ran across a column in the Daily Nebraskan by a female student named Shelby Fleig that was, well, rather critical of Mr. Columbus, pointing out, among other things, that he kidnapped and enslaved many of those he encountered in the Americas.

Fleig’s piece is a tad simplistic at times — at one point it says that when Columbus arrived in the Americas he encountered a “civilization close to 14,000 years old,” which is just plain wrong; there were people in the Americas around 14,000 years ago, but there were no civilizations anywhere on earth that far back. Still, the piece certainly reflects reality far more closely than anything you’ll find on The Spearhead on any given day.

To Price, though, the column is such an unpatriotic abomination that he considers it evidence that education is wasted on women. No, really.

Little Ms. Fleig certainly has it in for her forefathers, but is it really her fault? Probably not. She, like most other college girls, is simply parroting what’s been fed to her by her profs. Girls are good at that, which is why teachers like them so much — they’re easy.

If you’re the father of an American girl, is this really what you want your daughter to absorb over the course of four years? Does it add any value whatsoever to the family or to the nation?

I’m not sure what specifically Price is objecting to about Fleig’s account — aside from its mild profanity (the word “bullshit”) and its less-than-reverential tone towards an icon of American history. But he offers no rebuttal, perhaps because he really can’t. While Fleig may be a bit ahistorical in her judgment of Columbus, it’s a fact that he kidnapped and enslaved hundreds of natives and committed other atrocities. It’s a fact that he paved the way for conquest and genocide. History isn’t pretty.

But Price is only getting started, telling fathers of “American girls” that

Your money would be much better spent sending her to sewing or baking school. Let’s face it: Ms. Fleig isn’t going to discover the cure for cancer. Despite being an attractive young woman, she isn’t going to colonize Mars, either (at her size, she’d be too expensive to launch out of the Earth’s atmosphere).

Yep, he goes there. No manosphere screed is complete without a bit of gratuitous fat-shaming.

In all likelihood, the best she could hope for is a nonprofit or government job fully funded by her father’s and brother’s tax bills.

Because girls can’t handle real jobs. Because jobs at nonprofits or with the government aren’t real jobs. Because nonprofits are funded entirely by the government. And because only men pay taxes.

And yet she represents 60% of college students. What an enormous, unsustainable waste. It’s impolitic to point it out, but from a cost-benefit point of view, in most cases higher education is entirely wasted on women, and as in Ms. Fleig’s case is often counterproductive.

So that’s Price’s thoughtful and logical rebuttal to Fleig’s article: a post that addresses none of her arguments, posits the natural inferiority of women, and attacks her for her apparent weight.

Let’s see what the highly erudite Spearhead readers have to say about it in the comments.

Gender Foreigner suggests that women, born to obey, are simply obeying the wrong people:

Women don’t know how to think: they know how to obey. So, let’s tell them what to do. What they lack is MEN to obey instead of girls to obey. Barefoot, pregnant in the kitchen, obeying masculine will. As long as they do that they will feign civility.

Dire Badger, for his part, acknowledges that Columbus did a lot of terrible things, but argues that this doesn’t matter because reasons. He also uses profanity, though Price doesn’t step in to rebuke him for that.

[I]n the end, individual racial and cultural atrocities mean NOTHING the moment the last person that witnessed them dies…. but things like achievements in literature, art, science… the true immortality that keeps building as part of a cultural intellectual inheritance. The only meaning that such atrocities have is to teach us NOT TO DO THEM AGAIN. Anything else is beating the dead victim horse for no benefit whatsoever, and merely punishes the people that had NOTHING to do with the original atrocity.

In short, columbus opened up america for expansion. He sailed the ocean blue in a way that hadn’t been achieved for nearly 400 years since the vikings.
As for the rest? FUCK YOU. Get over it already, you pussy.

In a followup comment, he adds:

Columbus rediscovered America by a monumental navigational goofup… funny story… What he did afterwards doesn’t concern me except as an object lesson. I honor the accomplishment but have no reason to diminish it by sorrow over a bunch of people who would still be more than 400 years dead if Columbus had never existed.

Schlomo, meanwhile, is mad at Fleig for not blaming Columbus’ mom for the whole thing:

What irks me is that feminists constantly blame only men– and then mostly white men– for all evil in the world. They don’t look at women’s roles in raising boys to be exploiters; or in bedding “bad boys” (thus rewarding their brutality); or in serving as Nazi prison guards, etc.

White females helped run plantations in the Old South and ran them alone during the Civil War. Ergo, it’s a lie that gals are innately “better” than guys. After all, they became queens of men feminists now demonize… and sometimes were the evil-incarnate leaders of countries themselves.

Nowhere, of course, do feminists praise men for the creating the Magna Carta or washing machines or hi-fi systems. No kudos, either, for males who wiped out polio and provided potable water. Also, no credit for inventing penicillin or making cars safer. Always and everywhere feminists blame-blame-blame. You never hear them collectively apologize for THEIR shite, like their hysterical historical foresisters’ White Feather campaigns… or sleeping with the enemy.

Where is the condemnation of Sacagawea for helping Whitey conquer her “people”?

It’s like domestic violence: fembots never talk about the equal evil women do.

Wilson, meanwhile, decides that Fleig is the truly evil one, not Columbus, based on a bunch of TRUE FACTS about her he’s pulled from his own posterior:

Conquest through genocide is not actually immoral, since there is no “social contract” being violated, though the greed of it may be questionable. Fleig would support a genocide against whites, so she is in no position to judge anyway, and her motivations–spite, malice, nihilism, betrayal–are much more evil than Columbus’s straightforward and productive ambition

But Fleig does have one defender amongst the Spearhead regulars, a fella named Dragnet, who happily declares that “corn-fed” gals like her please his penis. No, really, that’s his argument.

Being from the Midwest myself, I find her buxom, corn-fed heft absolutely delightful. I have had more than a few liaisons with her similarly endowed Midwestern sisters–to this day my manhood rises in salute.

What I wouldn’t give for more women on the east coast to be built like Miss Fleig. There’s a well-built, fulsome hardiness to the women of the Midwest that you really don’t find out East. God bless them all.

Well, I’m glad these superior-brained, independent-minded men have put us all straight on these important historical issues.

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xenologer
xenologer
8 years ago

Blech.

Reminds me of that time a guy told me on my very own campus that it made him sad that I was in college because it meant that the men in my life were failing me. If the men were doing a better job being men, it’d never have occurred to me that I might need anything college had to offer because I’d always be provided for by good men.

I didn’t have to go find this guy. He was standing outside the door of my building when I walked out, trying to convince people to go watch that Expelled film about how evolution isn’t true because Nazis.

CorgiTime
CorgiTime
8 years ago

I don’t understand. These guys are attacking her and insulting her over nothing that has to do with her writing. Their comments are all “har har she’s fat and doesn’t like Columbus” with no rebuttal. They seem angry at her because she’s a woman who is using a public forum to speak- oh. I figured it out.

bodycrimes
8 years ago

David, you left something out. The bit about Mr Price’s cure for cancer and his colonisation of Mars. He DID do those things, didn’t he? Otherwise his education (I’m assuming he has been educated) has been wasted. By his own definition.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

You never hear them collectively apologize for THEIR shite, like their hysterical historical foresisters’ White Feather campaigns… or sleeping with the enemy.

Where is the condemnation of Sacagawea for helping Whitey conquer her “people”?

Gee, I do not know, because feminists generally agree that the white feather campaign was bad and try not to condemn women attempting to survive in horrible conditions?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Let’s face it: Ms. Fleig isn’t going to discover the cure for cancer.

Let’s face it, neither is WTF Price. He’s just going to be an evil, small-minded twit on the internet.

If Price has a wife and daughters, I feel bad for them.

HeatherN
8 years ago

“Conquest through genocide is not actually immoral.”

Every time I think one of these guys has reached peak-horrible, someone has to say something like this.

swankivy
8 years ago

Ah of course. Daddies are always the ones paying for their daughters’ educations, so because some girls do things with their educations that this guy doesn’t like, he has decided to lecture her father and any other fathers of girls about how useless it is to pay to educate them. Since girls obviously can’t go to school unless their fathers send them.

Funny how the dudes who are always moaning about how women with education are foolishly not becoming cancer-cure-discoverers or astronauts seem to have not cured cancer or been to space themselves. Funny how this does not seem to be used as evidence that men’s education is wasted every time an educated man doesn’t cure cancer or go to space. Funny how they get mad that men are supposedly blamed for all the evil in the world but they always fly into a rage when men are blamed for things they themselves actually did. Funny how if a woman does something they disagree with then it’s evidence of the awfulness of womankind, while if a man does something they disagree with then it’s probably a woman’s fault for not raising him right.

CeCe
CeCe
8 years ago

I had to gather my thoughts for a few moments before I wrote what I was thinking, because I didn’t want to come across as being horribly negative. Instead, I want to just say one thing. Okay, two things.

First, thanks for this post, it was very entertaining to read, and it made a societal ill an easier pill to swallow, because of your own humor and sarcasm.

Second, what the whole thing proves once again is that any time there’s a discussion involving feminism or feminists, the reasons why we need feminism are made apparent. Every single time, it never fails. Those men are why we need feminism, because obviously they’d love to have uneducated women, barefoot and pregnant, in the kitchen, with no other use besides pleasing their penis (no fatties plz), bearing their children, and making them delicious sammiches.

Ain’t gonna happen. I hope those men remain single and childless forever.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

David, you left something out. The bit about Mr Price’s cure for cancer and his colonisation of Mars. He DID do those things, didn’t he? Otherwise his education (I’m assuming he has been educated) has been wasted. By his own definition.

Insert Austin Powers saying “I’m a man baby.” Because that is what gives him the out. /disgusted sarcasm

Andrew Johnston
8 years ago

David, you left something out. The bit about Mr Price’s cure for cancer and his colonisation of Mars. He DID do those things, didn’t he? Otherwise his education (I’m assuming he has been educated) has been wasted. By his own definition.

Haven’t you ever heard of the Transitive Property of Assholes? You get credit for anything that was done by someone who looks a little like you. So yeah, you could go out and write a classic novel, or start a business, or invent something revolutionary…or you could point out that people who were somewhat similar to you already did all that. The latter frees up valuable time which you can use for more important work, like going to forums and complaining about women.

freemage
8 years ago

Okay, that last guy, going on and on about ‘corn-fed beauties’? There’s not enough ew in the world.

AK
AK
8 years ago

So in Gender Foreigner’s comment, who are those girls who women are obeying now obeying? I mean, if women only know how to obey, but they’re obeying girls, who is telling the girls what to do? Other women? How does that work?

Also, Dire Badger understands that there are still real people alive who are still suffering the effects of colonialism and genocide in the Americas, right? Or does he not believe that Native Americans exist anymore, or that the conditions on some reservations have anything to do with hundreds of years of colonialism and oppression?

AK
AK
8 years ago

Also, I’m choosing to ignore that last comment that says there’s nothing inherently wrong with genocide. It’s a troll, right? Right?!

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
8 years ago

Seems to me like these guys are jealous that a feeemale got an article in the paper when W.F. Price has probably been sending in his anti-woman garbage for years and getting rejected. A college aged woman is being read by a mainstream audience while he is doomed forever to stay in the dark corners of the internet.

Yutolia
8 years ago

[QUOTE]Columbus rediscovered America by a monumental navigational goofup… funny story… What he did afterwards doesn’t concern me except as an object lesson. I honor the accomplishment but have no reason to diminish it by sorrow over a bunch of people who would still be more than 400 years dead if Columbus had never existed.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you are right… those people would still be dead. However, the way that they died would’ve most likely been much, much different… and they would have descendents.

skepticalschoolteacher

Look, I’d like to leave a witty comment, really I would, but I’m like this close to curing cancer and if I’m going to get the final formula right, I have to get these forms in before the deadline for the next astronaut training to get to the ISS.
(I know what you’re wondering, and the answer is yes. I totally went to college. Man College.

But . . . hey, wait. If college nowadays is just where you go to obey your Lieberal professors and be indoctrinated to hate Christopher Columbus and genocidal conquest like some kind of goddamn socialist sissy-pants . . . maybe I shouldn’t send my sons, either? Why just the girls? It kinda sounds like you can send the sons because they know better than to listen to the hippies who will try to turn them against Reagan and Johnny Appleseed, but if you have to ignore your teachers, there may be better places to spend thousands of your dollars.

Bonelady
Bonelady
8 years ago

So, let me get this straight — Mr. Price is angry because a young woman criticized Columbus for something he actually did. Apparently only women who Mr. Price considers attractive should be permitted college educations? Or is he angry because well-educated women are capable of criticizing men in ways he cannot refute? As a PhD, I suppose that he would find me intolerable –and I paid for that education myself just to add insult to injury… Oh, and Mr. Price? I teach college myself –Anthropology & archaeology. So yes, I know all about that Columbus guy.

Maude LL
Maude LL
8 years ago

@AK
Yes, the infinite regress of female obedience. It actually forms a loop, not unlike the loop of a hamster wheel. Technically, the result is that women think for themselves, but all females must go through a long process first. For example, I order something to the next female, who does the same, until the telephone gets back to me, making me having to obey my own order. That’s how it works amongst the species hardwired for obedience.

Yutolia
Yutolia
8 years ago

Apparently I’m still having issues with the quote thing. Gah! I keep hoping I have it figured out, but I’m mostly always wrong…

skepticalschoolteacher

Uhhh . . . if he’s not supposed to feel sorrow over the torturous deaths of–what?–thousands? Millions of people?
Then what’s the point of his object lesson?

My hypothesis:
He started out in a righteous fury writing about how atrocities in history mean NOTHING after the last person who witnessed them is dead!!!! Because if nobody saw you do it, it doesn’t count. Most of that is still most of his post. But partway through the writing, he calmed down a bit and realized that anyone could easily counter that if atrocities are meaningless after history moves on, there’s no reason (or way) to avoid repeating them. So he kind of awkwardly grafted on the afterthought about “except as a reminder not to repeat them, obviously” and “except as an object lesson.” What he didn’t do was take another few moments to reflect and realize that these two thoughts contradict each other in a fundamental way and completely undo his point.

Cthulhu's Intern
8 years ago

So, what would he think of me? A college-aged man whose education is primarily being paid for by his mother?

Also, it doesn’t matter if WF Price himself doesn’t colonize Mars or find the cure for cancer: As long as at least one man did it, it’s an achievement for all men, and that includes WF Price.

dustydeste
dustydeste
8 years ago

I feel like I should break out the NOPEtopus gif again, but I’m just too drained from reading that filth to go find it. Gonna go buy clarinet reeds instead, I think.

sparky
sparky
8 years ago

“Conquest through genocide is not actually immoral, since there is no’social contract’ being violated, though the greed of it may be questionable.”

No. No no no. Dude, you fail at humanity.

College education is wasted on women/women haven’t cured cancer: Dr. Gertrude Elion. Didn’t cure cancer but worked all her life to and develops several treatments. Also developed Septra, Zyloprim and Zovirax, drugs used to this day.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_B._Elion

ceebarks
ceebarks
8 years ago

Are they mad at Howard Zinn, too?

mildlymagnificent
8 years ago

The only meaning that such atrocities have is to teach us NOT TO DO THEM AGAIN.

And we should learn about them the easy way – in history classes – rather than the hard way of seeing them happen again.

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