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Pickup Artist: Marrying a woman over 25 is like paying double for nearly expired milk

I like my women like I like my milk: in close proximity to cats.
I like my women like I like my milk: In close proximity to cats.

Red Pill ideology isn’t just hateful and misogynistic; it’s also a remarkably bleak way to look at the world, even for the men who supposedly benefit the most from taking “the red pill” — that is, the allegedly smooth players who boast about bedding so many women on “game” blogs.

Take, for example, what you might call the “spoiled milk” theory of marriage that’s sometimes trotted out on these blogs.

Since women reach their prime young, the theory goes, then rapidly lose their looks and their value after “hitting the wall” at the age or 25 or 30, it only makes sense to marry a woman when she’s young — so you get to have sex with her before she gets all old and hideous.

If you marry her later, this means that someone else has had her at her best — and you haven’t!

As the blogger at LaidNYC argues in a post titled “Don’t Marry Any Woman Older Than 25,”

If you meet your wife when she’s older than around 23 or 24:

You are eating someone else’s cold leftovers, then doing their dishes.

You are showing up to a party after everyone has left and cleaning up after them.

You are getting into a taxi and paying the fare of the person who got out before you.

You are taking the nearly expired milk to the grocery store counter and offering to pay double for it.

He goes on in this fashion for some time.

You are paying for someone’s credit card bill full of reckless spending and partying that you never got to enjoy. …

You are trying to unclog somebody else’s clogged toilet.

Ok, now that last one didn’t even make sense.

Anyway, after running out of metaphors, LaidNYC gets to his point:

A girl who refuses to get married young is offering a raw deal.  She is vastly overvaluing her product, and undervaluing your time and money.

Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.  

LaidNYC goes on to suggest that women who are too picky when they’re young will end up regretting it later:

Is it any wonder, then, that as females are delaying marriage longer, they are finding less willing men?

Youthful arrogance is the yellow brick road to spinsterhood.

But I want to go back to that previous bit:

Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.  

Can you imagine a more depressing way to look at marriage? If you’re so twisted by your misogyny that you can’t see value in your wife after she hits the age of 30 or so, and stick with her only out of a sense of obligation because she fucked you when she was 25, well, dude, you deserve to be miserable. And I can only hope your wife leaves you for someone who can appreciate her in the here and now.

Misogynistic assholes are at least as good at making themselves miserable as they are at making things shitty for other people.

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BritterSweet
8 years ago

@ Pecunium: I stand corrected. Unlike surgeon, mother and soldier, “woman” is not a strictly defined role. At least, not so much in the modern world.

Energomash
Energomash
8 years ago

This David Futrelle guy is also forcing his values on me. As an atheist i don’t like this.

See, some people value choclate ice others vanilla ice. This is a simple choice you make, there aren’t any reasons behind it.
So why must i value intelligence in a woman? Why must i value her personality? Isn’t it enough to value her looks?
Isn’t it enough that a woman values the wealth of a man? Why does she have to like everything about this mans personality?

I know this question won’t make me liked by you people, but i think it is interesting so i post it here anyway.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

“the nihilists really tied the movie together.”

They really do, and not only are showers hard to catch, you might come out of one to find me telling off your screen because Hugo. Fucking. Schwyzer. is on it (sorry, in hindsight, that’s pretty funny, I must’ve been a sight to see!)

“Objectification is bad because it always forces the victim into a non-desired role.”

Yeah, I officially have nothing more to add, I’m probably done addressing the current derail about defining objectification and why it’s wrong.

Marie
8 years ago

@trollboy

I know this question won’t make me liked by you people, but i think it is interesting so i post it here anyway.

Um…it’s not very interesting. It seems like you’re trying to find a ‘gotcha’ to excuse your sexist behavior. It won’t work.

Also, women and men are not chocolate and vanilla icecream. Neither are intelligence, looks wealkth or personality. None of those are icecream.

cloudiah
8 years ago

This David Futrelle guy is also forcing his values on me.

Can you please explain the mechanism by which David Futrelle is forcing his values on you?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Pecunium — don’t read your email before supper, it’ll put you right off.

“As an atheist i don’t like this.”

Didn’t we do this, you know, YESTERDAY?

And you don’t have to value everything about her, I mean, some people leave their laundry everywhere, doesn’t make me like them less. Now, if their only value was their ability to strew laundry about, that’d be a different matter.

It’s the liking someone for for one thing that is not intrinsic to their current role. Seriously, this isn’t hard.

Fade
8 years ago

This David Futrelle guy is also forcing his values on me. As an atheist i don’t like this.

HOWW???!!

Like, he’s mocking misogyny. He’s not forcing you to not being misogynistic. He’s just saying that misogyny is mock worthy.

I know this question won’t make me liked by you people, but i think it is interesting so i post it here anyway.

If you find it interesting, maybe you need a hobby.

Sure, you can only value a woman for her looks. We can still think that makes you an asshole. Everybody wins, except the women in close proximity to you.

Alice
Alice
8 years ago

“This David Futrelle guy is also forcing his values on me. As an atheist i don’t like this.”

wut?

Wut?

WUT?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

And yeah, people aren’t ice cream.

Speaking of David, has anyone requested an IP check on this one?

Fade
8 years ago

@cloudiah

my guess is that it’s like those people who think freedom of speech means freedom from criticism. “he says misogyny is baaaaaaad! how can I keep going along acting like all women are only vessels for my sexual pleasure when someone disagrees with me?”

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Omfg this guy. This guy.

I’m super glad that I’m not dating you, Enegomash, and I hope your gf realizes how little you respect her soon.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Hobby derail!!

I have nearly everything I need to set up the 30g and sump when my fucking pump arrives (Thursday, in theory). But I’m bored. How much substrate do you think I can get away with putting in the tank before I’m risking the glass when I move it? Should I just twiddle my thumbs and wait for my pump?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

This David Futrelle guy is also forcing his values on me. As an atheist i don’t like this.

Wrong. No one is forcing you to read this here blog. In fact, you should leave.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Where did Ergonotroll even get the idea that David is religious?

Energomash
Energomash
8 years ago

Of course people aren’t ice cream. The point is that you chose your values, but not because of rational reasons.
So it is pretty pointless to argue over taste or what you like in another person.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

I’m going to start doing everything as an atheist. “V, will you pass the soup?” “Well, as an atheist, I would be glad to!” “Did you like the movie?” “As an atheist, I found it a bit bland in places.” “Would you please sign this package.” “Sure, I’ll sign it… As an atheist!”

sarahlizhousespouse
8 years ago

“This David Futrelle guy is also forcing his values on me. As an atheist i don’t like this.”

You are a very silly person. Besides the obvious nonsense about David “forcing” values on you, since when do theists enjoy values being “forced” upon them?

becausescience
becausescience
8 years ago

I didn’t read the whole thread so not sure if someone else mentioned this, but “fertile women” is basically their dog whistle for teenage girls. This is the same crowd after all that screamed bloody murder when the jailbait subreddit was shut down. So in that context, their fixation on sleeping with “young, fertile” women is particularly creepy.

And given how terrified they are at the thought of accidentally getting a woman pregnant, it would make more sense for them to avoidthe age group they thought were most likely to be fertile, not to seek that group of out.

Also, the implied threat of “women better start giving us the sex we’re entitled to, or else” is a common one in manosphere rhetoric. You see it with MGTOW’s in their fantasies that society will collapse once enough men go their own way and remove themselves from the dating/marriage market, and here the threat is “women better start giving us sex, or else they’re going to end up old (over 30, oh noes) and alone!”

Marie
8 years ago

@Viscaria

Me too. But what should I do it with? I’m not an atheist :'(

Trollboy’s getting to boring to respond too, so I’ll just ramble at him until he goes away.

Trollboy, you want to know what I like in a person? When that person is not an asshole.

kittehserf
8 years ago

Thread catchup at last:

@historophilia:

I’m 20 where are all my marriage proposals? I want to refuse them so later on I can marry a beta mangina and force him to drink my spoiled milk, hah!

Just make sure it’s not homogenised spoiled milk, ‘cos we know that women are homophobic. That’s anything with the word homo in it, not what you’d generally think from those confusing dictionaries.

@Marie:

You can? You mean you can actually like people? Joy? Friendship? What are the alien concepts you speak of?

XD and QFT – these guys haven’t a clue. Maybe that’s why Ergonomicidiot thinks humans have no value. Good ol’ projection?

@SocialKenny:

LaidNYC is a cool guy, but I totally didn’t get the rational for this

Nope. He’s made it screamingly obvious from these comments that he is not a cool guy.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I find Erogontroll quite dull… as an atheist.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

‘”Of course people aren’t ice cream. The point is that you chose your values, but not because of rational reasons.
So it is pretty pointless to argue over taste or what you like in another person.”

Then why are you here, oh, fatalist. Oh, yeah, can’t help it, riiiiight.

cloudiah
8 years ago

As an atheist, I don’t like beets.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Didn’t David say he’s agnostic (I could theoretically check, as I’m 99% sure I know which set of survey data is his, but that sounds really fucking creepy [yeah, in the rare cases I could figure out whose data it was, I didn’t go looking at the rest of your data, privacy, I respect it])

…including fish privacy, which is why I’m looking at decor for my little puffs to set up their own little territories and leave each other alone (food fights are not fun when it’s fish on either end of a tiny worm)

Energomash
Energomash
8 years ago

Bottom line: Objectification is a sketchy concept. Good night yall.

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