Most misogynists, it would seem, are loath to admit that they’re misogynists. “How can you say I hate women?” they’ll ask. “After all, I love my sister. She’s not like the rest of those whores.” Or, “I just hate Western Women.” Or whatever fine distinction they like to make to pretend that their hatred of pretty much every woman they ever come across, or imagine in their overheated little brains, is something other than misogyny.
Then there are those who not only admit their misogyny but who are downright proud of it, thinking it’s a sign of their own personal superiority. Today, a pretty good example of Proud Misogyny, taken from the reactionary Christian blog Samson’s Jawbone.
Our intrepid woman-hater starts off by contrasting his brand of misogyny to the peculiar kind of woman-appreciation advocated by the PUA gasbag now known as Heartiste (but still known as Roissy when this post was written):
Roissy is fond of saying that he’s not a “misogynist”; no, learning the unvarnished truth about female psychology has given him a *higher* appreciation for women. Not so for me. Sociosexual philosophy has disillusioned me beyond all reckoning. Peering deep into the psyche of woman has rendered me grievously scornful in feeling and mercilessly unscrupulous in behaviour towards these unholy, ungodly beings. I venture to say that… I hate them. Yes, I hate them! And how could I not?
Did I mention that he has literary pretensions as well? Like a lot of reactionaries, Mr. Jawbone has adopted a melodramatic, vaguely archaic prose style that he evidently feels is the height of literary sophistication, but which sounds a lot more like the monologuing of some cartoon villain.
Oh, the vile criteria by which women judge menfolk! O, abominable, loathsome beings!
Is anyone else reminded of Newman from Seinfeld?
But Mr. Jawbone is just getting started:
A creature so damnably constituted as to admire a man for his “social dominance” – by which is meant his ability to waltz through an absurd series of meaningless, contrived riddles – rather than his work ethic, his self-sacrifice, his affability, his charity, his honesty, his justice – in short, his righteousness and integrity; such a creature deserves to be used and abused like a cheap street harlot – or better yet, a vermin-ridden ass – and discarded appropriately. Nothing more; she merits nothing better.
Here’s an actual vermin-ridden ass, having a nice scratch in the dirt:
Oh, but Mr. Jawbone isn’t done yet:
Words like “honour”, “duty”, “kindness”… those things that define goodness and rightness… all meaningless, meaningless to this wretched, wicked half of the human race. And do women who profess belief in something “higher”; women who should know better, afford any solace? No. Instead they show themselves as fraudulent, fickle hellcats who think good men are “weak”. So alas, I can no longer view the distaff horde with anything besides revulsion and contempt. They perjure themselves by their own words; they are beasts, deserving nothing but callous treatment and damnation; and I can wish nothing upon them but furious hatred, ignominy and a miserable passing.
What a cheery fellow!
I take no joy in penning the above – but I feel clean and spotless as the lamb. What else is to be said for a lot that believes black to be white, up to be down, and good men to be worthless? Poor Ashley Wilkes, and all good men.
Hate to break it to you, dude, but you’re not actually a good man. You’re a pompous dickbag. Oh, sorry, you’re a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave!
(Thanks to Shakespeare for that last insult, and to Quackers for pointing me to Mr. Jawbone’s post.)
Lol, fuck, I had an apt with mice. And they are fairly “smart” (sorta like dogs and cats, but not domestic) — they were strictly after food and panicked when caught. I let one go outside after it got trapped in a garbage can. Shitting in the dish rack wasn’t cool, but fuck, leaving food out when the neighbor is feeding pigeons…yep, you’ll get other critters!
Argenti – yes, ants, those noted abusers of free will!
The whole reincarnate-your-way-back-to-human-you-lesser-being schtick sends me into HulkSmash rage, it really does. Plus the whole devaluing (or at least, this is how it reads to me) of the precious, one time only, individual being. I believe in souls (duh! 😀 ) but neither as a rechargable battery nor as an actor just playing different roles over and over again.
/rant
The Kittehs’ Unpaid Help:
It seems that not all souls cry out for salvation, but they should, for damnation is eternal.
As a concerned citizen I think it is unjust how my tax dollars are spent. But as a spiritual man, I think it is downright evil. The modern nation is just some sort of club where the arbitrariness of your birth place decides if you become a member and you’re entitled to all the good things like health care. You are the hypocrite here, you don’t want a true redistribution of wealth, you just want this redistribution in “your society” as if some barrier would prevent the money to flow where it’s most desperately needed. It’s just the bootstraps myth for nations instead for humans.
Argenti Aertheri:
Are you mating the fish? If not, you’re forgiven my sister/brother. 😉
Ok, although souls are trapped in the fish body, they don’t have achieved the level of awareness of humans, so it’s not sinfulness, it’s ignorance. Also, we Cathars don’t regard it as more sinful if siblings have sex together, so even if your fish will do that…
It’s because I don’t eat the leather. Leather was obtained by hurting and killing a living creature and buying leather shoes will raise the demand for leather (I still use my old ones, which I bought before I became a Perfectus) this is, of course, very bad for me as a Perfectus. But it is far worse to eat meat because it will bring me in contact with the most material things in a far more fundamental way (by devouring it).
Marie, soy milk or soy creamer separates in coffee.
katz, katz, you won! Think he’ll go one step further with this? It’s just precious.
*tickles trollbaby under chin*
*wipes hand*
ROFL!
I have to say, if trollboy is Mr Al, he’s done a great job of pretending he hasn’t read any threads here before.
Guess what, sonny Jim – my experience (not reading: experience) says there’s no such thing as damnation, because there’s no deity so evil as to inflict that on anyone. And if you think there is, maybe you should consider just what you’re actually worshipping, hmm?
On the other topic, who are you to talk hypocrisy about wealth distribution when you whine about what little there is even in wealthy societies? The minute you proclaim yourself to have libertarian tendencies, you admit you’re working from the “Fuck you, Jack, I got mine” end of things, because that is all Libertarianism boils down to.
@Rayray
Dude, go preach somewhere else.
Already hit other people’s sex lives = not your buisness, so we’re all walking in circles here.
Um…everyone should get healthcare. I don’t follow how this connects to the last one, since, you know, taxes help other people getting health care.
I’m confused. Do poor people not need birth control? Is there not enough money for birth control and health care (even though they are very related)? Cuz, see military budget ^_^ pretty damn high compared to this other stuff.
So, you avoid animal products not out of concern for the animals’ welfare, but out of concern for yourself?
Soy milk will curdle in coffee; you can stir it back in, but I can see how you might find it a bit gross. Soy creamer is designed specifically not to curdle in coffee. Also, just about any store that sells soy creamer also sells coconut creamer. You are so full of shit.
This kid needs a nap. It totes reads like Mr. Bad Boundaries.
Of course not. Yours and mine and ours. You believe in the eternal damnation of the soul based on specific activities, and that’s fine. Other people don’t.The bite against nation states don’t really apply, because push come shove most people will happily, eagerly admit that the arbitrary borders drawn on maps that separate people is not a fantastic thing – but it’s also a thing that gets gradually less relevant with time and reach. So… yeah. We’re back to the “But as it stands, that’s how it works”.
Perfectus Raymond, what is your purpose in writing here? I mean, you’ve been decently polite and you haven’t called anyone a damned slut whore skank yet. Which is, y’know, better than the alternative of how strangers normally act around here. But I just don’t understand. Why are you here? What do you want? What are you trying to achieve? What is, if I may, the point?
How tall d’you think he is of a morning?
Fibinachi – either he’s trying to SAVE OUR SOULS or he’s trying out the soles of his brand new pair of socks … I’m inclined to think it’s the latter.
Wait, what was I predicting?
I’m still waiting for an explanation of why sex is what connects things to the material world, and for that matter why he doesn’t just cut eating out of his life altogether to maintain his bodily purity.
That one’s pretty obvious though. Sex is based on desire and you are desiring a material thing (someone else, their body). So you are being bound up in the sheer material world by your desires for material things, ie, someone’s body.
I don’t get why this is a bad thing? But as far as basic gnostic principles go, it’s sort of self evident. Just assume any intention of longing is a bad thing, because you chase after a materialistic illusion and you get it. It’s sort of like the Buddha bit, where “being free of desire” is a good thing – because once you don’t want nothing, you won’t get any pain from not getting it.
Of course you’re still stuck with the precious bodily fluids and the notion that materialistic impulses can somehow degrade an immortal soul, as if the soul was somehow so weak. But, hey, that’s another bridge entirely.
So? Food’s based on a desire for a material thing, too, even when it’s Oreos.
As long as I’m not intentionally mating fish it’s okay…but we reincarnate and might be fish…umm…either all souls have equal merit, and responsibility, or they don’t.
Option 1) fish and humans and everything else have the same sort of souls and can thus reincarnate into each other, and all should avoid procreative sex for it is sinful
Option 2) fish, humans, etc have different sorts of souls (or only humans have souls) and thus humans should avoid procreative sex, for it is sinful, but soulless creatures have no such consciousness and are thus free to reproduce, for they lack to consciousness required for sin
Coffe mate creamer, I know it’s lactose free, idk about vegan though.
Maledict just misspelt coffee, protect your souls, I might get hungry! (I should really read Prachett before making Prachett jokes…)
Well, that’s the problem with wisdom and enlightenment. Get too much of it, and you detach and float free from the world.
“Sex is based on desire and you are desiring a material thing (someone else, their body).”
Well yeah, but how’re various non-procreative sex acts less material then?
I… guess those are less material because if you’re not procreating, at least you’re not creating more spawn to live an illusionary life of materialistic delusion? So if you don’t spread your genes, you are at the very least not causing more life while having fun?
Dunno, man. Gnosticism is curious.
“Dunno, man” is the phrase I use to imply “I don’t know!”. I just realized right this second it’s not pronoun appropriate. Please replace with whatever indicator would be good for you. Sorry.
Tea – sinful or non sinful? What about when we consider that this tea was grown in China, and labor conditions there leave something to be desired?
You can hold your beliefs, but PLEASE do not try to convert people to your church. Literally no one is interested.
Also, you have yet to say how it is different paying for birth control to be covered by insurance and paying for other things people don’t like in taxes.
@fibinachi
That’s a rather dreary way to look at things 🙁 (I know you’re just speculating on the troll, but it makes me slightly sad/ sympathy feeling.)
Fibinachi — I’ve hung out with enough stoners to be fine with “dude…man…” as a generic expression of stuff and whatnot. I mean yeah, it’s male as default, but personally, I don’t mind it (not speaking for anyone else, but no need to apologize for “dunno, man” directed at me 🙂 )
I call people of all genders “man”. It’s an unfortunate side effect of living in California – even my retired in-laws are stoners.
katz – you predicted he’d talk about Mr K and my relationship being sinful ‘cos material world. (ARGH go away, Madonna!)
Should I tell him the world of Spirit has its own physical reality (rather more adaptable than here, but still physical)? He’d probably default to “It’s demonic!” or something equally daft.
heheheheh
Argenti – “As long as I’m not intentionally mating fish it’s okay”
Is unintentionally mating fish okay? 😉
Fibinachi – “Just assume any intention of longing is a bad thing, because you chase after a materialistic illusion and you get it. It’s sort of like the Buddha bit, where “being free of desire” is a good thing – because once you don’t want nothing, you won’t get any pain from not getting it.”
Which has always struck me as a cowardly, immature stance, not the height of wisdom. When I think of Buddha all that comes to mind is that it’s a good thing he was royalty, because his wife and child didn’t suffer materially (there’s that word again!) from being deserted by Deadbeat Dad.