Most misogynists, it would seem, are loath to admit that they’re misogynists. “How can you say I hate women?” they’ll ask. “After all, I love my sister. She’s not like the rest of those whores.” Or, “I just hate Western Women.” Or whatever fine distinction they like to make to pretend that their hatred of pretty much every woman they ever come across, or imagine in their overheated little brains, is something other than misogyny.
Then there are those who not only admit their misogyny but who are downright proud of it, thinking it’s a sign of their own personal superiority. Today, a pretty good example of Proud Misogyny, taken from the reactionary Christian blog Samson’s Jawbone.
Our intrepid woman-hater starts off by contrasting his brand of misogyny to the peculiar kind of woman-appreciation advocated by the PUA gasbag now known as Heartiste (but still known as Roissy when this post was written):
Roissy is fond of saying that he’s not a “misogynist”; no, learning the unvarnished truth about female psychology has given him a *higher* appreciation for women. Not so for me. Sociosexual philosophy has disillusioned me beyond all reckoning. Peering deep into the psyche of woman has rendered me grievously scornful in feeling and mercilessly unscrupulous in behaviour towards these unholy, ungodly beings. I venture to say that… I hate them. Yes, I hate them! And how could I not?
Did I mention that he has literary pretensions as well? Like a lot of reactionaries, Mr. Jawbone has adopted a melodramatic, vaguely archaic prose style that he evidently feels is the height of literary sophistication, but which sounds a lot more like the monologuing of some cartoon villain.
Oh, the vile criteria by which women judge menfolk! O, abominable, loathsome beings!
Is anyone else reminded of Newman from Seinfeld?
But Mr. Jawbone is just getting started:
A creature so damnably constituted as to admire a man for his “social dominance” – by which is meant his ability to waltz through an absurd series of meaningless, contrived riddles – rather than his work ethic, his self-sacrifice, his affability, his charity, his honesty, his justice – in short, his righteousness and integrity; such a creature deserves to be used and abused like a cheap street harlot – or better yet, a vermin-ridden ass – and discarded appropriately. Nothing more; she merits nothing better.
Here’s an actual vermin-ridden ass, having a nice scratch in the dirt:
Oh, but Mr. Jawbone isn’t done yet:
Words like “honour”, “duty”, “kindness”… those things that define goodness and rightness… all meaningless, meaningless to this wretched, wicked half of the human race. And do women who profess belief in something “higher”; women who should know better, afford any solace? No. Instead they show themselves as fraudulent, fickle hellcats who think good men are “weak”. So alas, I can no longer view the distaff horde with anything besides revulsion and contempt. They perjure themselves by their own words; they are beasts, deserving nothing but callous treatment and damnation; and I can wish nothing upon them but furious hatred, ignominy and a miserable passing.
What a cheery fellow!
I take no joy in penning the above – but I feel clean and spotless as the lamb. What else is to be said for a lot that believes black to be white, up to be down, and good men to be worthless? Poor Ashley Wilkes, and all good men.
Hate to break it to you, dude, but you’re not actually a good man. You’re a pompous dickbag. Oh, sorry, you’re a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave!
(Thanks to Shakespeare for that last insult, and to Quackers for pointing me to Mr. Jawbone’s post.)
@cloudiah
Then I suppose we are in agreement! 😀 I just forgot things one likes must also be evil.
I assumed that, I was just kinda confused what the troll was continuing with it though. I think my brain just exploded… sowwyz.
@clairedammit
I’m gonna get the one up here that’s on his webiste (too paranoid to post a link, I do not want my dad having mra trolls dropping by there XD) and ask him if he has more. It’s not a problem for me, don’t worry 😀 I love talking w/ you guys.
First one: Spicy Rice with Black Beans and Corn
Second one: Stewed Green Beans
And there are the recipies 😀 I’ll ask him if he has any more when he comes out, he’s currently in his room atm.
@clairedammit
Oops, forgot to say, I should check out your blog for recipes then 😀 I’m not vegan, but good recipes are good recipes 😀
Oreos are clearly a tool of the Matrixian overlords, coppertop.
Thanks Marie!
“Kitteh, I’m just waiting for him to go off on how your relationship is sinfully connected to the material world.”
Oooh, that’ll be fun!
::settles down with sinful material coffee::
@clairedammit
Welcome 😀 Sadly I don’t think my dad has any others. I asked him (rather shyly, I don’t know his opinions on internet recipe sharing XD) but he said no, and he only uses them 40 days a year.
@kittehs
:: settles down with sinful material dinner and sinful material soda::
And I’ll be having a sandwich with chicken! and cheese! at lunchtime. Oh, the sinfulness bwahahahahahaha!
Damn, even if he is Mr 90%, this troll’s more fun so far than most we’ve had in ages.
… except that I’ve now got bloody Madonna’s bloody Material Girl chorus playing in my head and I could really do without that.
::engages Springsteen earworm
Argenti Aertheri:
It is good that you love your fish, love is always good, if it’s toward animals we can be sure that it’s not tainted by other desires and this is very good.
But don’t you think that fish feel the desire to mate? Also why do you think snails lack consciousness?
I read the article. I don’t want birth control to be banned or not paid for in special circumstances.
Yes I know that and by doing that they deny the telos of the material world. They deny the role that the material world has forced upon them.
Fade:
PIV is bad because of the telos of the material world not just because of the possibility of conception. If somebody takes viagra, why should we assume it’s to engage in PIV? We don’t know that. But perhaps you’re somewhat right, I’ll think about it… perhaps it’s just as bad as contraception…
clairedammit:
I don’t have any craving for cheese, so I can’t help you with that. Also I’m not a strict vegan, because I eat honey and the leather stuff, that’s semi-allowed for Perfecti. What recipes are you interested…? A cliche vegan lasagna (with eggplant and smoked tofu)?
Also do you have an idea what to put into coffee instead of milk, I miss that so much, I even switched to drinking tea (right now, I’m drinking a Manchester Fog).
Marie:
But there are few cases as extreme as that, that people who don’t have sex (maybe just because they can’t find a partner) have to subsidize other people enjoying themselves in the most primitive way. Also, though surely not everybody will use publicly founded libraries, museums etc. or view public broadcasting, they could do it instantly, if they just wanted to.
The Kittehs’ Unpaid Help:
Christians are lost on the wrong path, especially Roman Catholics who committed great evil against the Cathars. The Old Testament is in reality inspired by the Demiurge. The Serpent in the Garden of Eden was not Satan but sent by the true God. As it is written “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever”. Is that how a true all-powerful God would speak? No, it’s what the Demiurge would say!
Dude, maybe you should readjust your tinfoil hat and find somewhere else to spew.
fuck off.
But people have already said they don’t all agree with the all the tax policies, and they still pay taxes. I mean, I don’t agree that churches should be exempt from paying taxes, or that America should use drone strikes. Does that mean I can hypothetically not pay my taxes?
Also why do you think snails lack consciousness?
Why do you think plants lack consciousness? *strokes nonexistent beard*
@Rayomnd
Don’t they have non dairy creamers? Idk though, I think my dad’s fiance is lactose intolerant and uses a kind of creamer, but she also takes those thingies that let you have some, so it could go either way. Does soy milk or rice milk work? Or do those have dairy?
I…I’m not following this. Many people can use birth control, and viagra is covered too, even though it’s not like male birth control, so people can choose to use it. Just like people can choose to go to libraries. So…I don’t really follow this argument. Though one would probably want to find out side effects of birth control first, so not instantly but still.,
@katz
So, are snails like plants? I mean, I’ve never thought about this before now, not caring much about snails XD I had a snail for 6 years, was it like a plant then? She mostly just ate her own poop though. It was kinda boring, but she outlived the fishies, who died within a month, I think. I am bad at keeping fish. Maybe if I want a pretty aquarium I’d just get a snail, though I think I may end up offending the people who actually like fish here, so I’ll stop rambling this much.
But yes. Snails. Never thought about it… XD
Some people like almond milk in their coffee.
…totally missed how e question was asking whether my fish mating was sinful, implying, you know, that they had mates (actually, I’m only sure one pair, and seeing how the rest of the cories are siblings…yeah, let’s not bred, k kids?)
And did I seriously just get asked why snails don’t have consciousness? But plants don’t? So…hydra?
In any case, honey and leather are the same level of acceptable?! Leather = wearing a dead animal; honey = eating something bees produce with no harm to themselves, at worst you could argue that they’re exploited.
Now, I know the vegans around these parts can explain the bee thing, but I’m also sure they’d never consider leather as remotely the same thing.
Oh and dude? Plenty of cis people “deny the role” forced on them, like, oh, women who reject motherhood! Often by using, *gasp* birth control!
“Also why do you think snails lack consciousness?
Why do you think plants lack consciousness? *strokes nonexistent beard*”
Lol, I wrote too much, but yes, that!
Marie — I’d go with degrees of consciousness, and yeah, snails “out rank” plants, but I’m really curious how fish might want mates but humans are sinful for mating.
@Argenti Aertheri
Thanks for snail info XD I really never thought about it before, hence my incoherent rambling.
“But there are few cases as extreme as that, that people who don’t have sex (maybe just because they can’t find a partner) have to subsidize other people enjoying themselves in the most primitive way. ”
Believe it or not, some of us don’t have this glibertarian “How dare you use MY MONEY!!!!1!!eleventy!!!” hangup about a civil society requiring contributions for things that we, personally, might never use. We don’t think of it in that mean-spirited and totally selfish way. I find it hard to see how you reconcile this base, materialistic, money-fixated outlook with your proclaimed spiritual beliefs. It reeks of hypocrisy (no surprise in a troll, least of all if you’re just Mr 90%).
At least that’s marginally less daft than the faux Buddhists (or maybe not so faux) who blather about animals being sinful – like an ant getting “bad karma” for biting a human. That was a real conversation, btw.
For the record, I haven’t a frakkin’ clue whether snails have consciousness nor not. But when it comes down to it, I have no way of determining whether anything other than myself has consciousness.
But seeing as I’m not a stoned teenager, I just go ahead and treat anything that acts like it has consciousness as though it does.
@Kitteh’s
The human was probably in it’s space, anyway. 😉 Seriously though, I don’t think ants go out of the way to torment us. I think they just want food.
And that pained me to type because of our old house’s yearly Invasion of the Ants, but our old house was also marginally unsanitary in foodstuffs…
@fade
Marginally? I think it was more than that XD
katz — fair enough, and I’m only inclined to assign blame to humans (we can debate on other species that recognize themselves — dolphins, elephants, a couple others) — but snails just do what they do. So do fish really, they seem more aware of what they do, but not really self-aware…just more able to be conditioned (no point trying with snails)
As for ants biting humans, yep, almost certainly knew it bit something, but response for causing the bitee harm? *dies laughing*
But yeah, Mr Mateix here should actually really truly believe “I think therefore I am”…cuz matrix.
But are you finding any bras in your size lately? I know how hard it is to find 36Cs.
There’s always the Gap, though.