Life is tough for dudes in our evil misandryarchy. Even dudes who just want to help littler dudes find themselves blocked by evil women.
Take, for example, the sad tale of a public-spirited MGTOWer who calls himself TheDisgruntledGentleman, and his thwarted attempt to join the Big Brother/Big Sister program. No, not the TV show, or the creepy dystopian leader/voyeur from 1984 — the mentoring program that pairs adults with at-risk kids. Let’s let him explain:
So, instead of just hand wringing about how males are targeted and denigrated within all aspects of life, I decided one way of trying to help would be to join the Big Brother Big Sister program. The first meeting I went to explained that there are twice as many boys looking for a match than there are girls. They said it was partly because more females than males volunteer. They didn’t mention how most boys have a mother in there life but no father because of the misandric divorce courts but I digress…
Oh, dear. We’re not off to a good start here.
Anyways, as part of the process, I had a one on one interview with a female member of the organisation to assess if I was suitable to be a Big, and if so, they wanted to know about me so they could match me with a little. I mentioned that I carry a firearm everywhere I legally can, I also wanted to know what protections were in place to protect me from unfounded accusations, and I expressed how I couldn’t be with a Little if his father had been forcibly removed from his life because of the vindictive actions of the mother. I think the final one sealed my fate however.
Yeah, why on earth would the program reject a gun-toting, woman-hating, self-described “disgruntled gentleman” whose only question for the organization, apparently, was about what would happen if he was accused of child molestation or abuse?
I’m not particularly upset at being rejected because after looking into it more, the activities deemed appropriate to do with your Little seem somewhat feminine, but it just further hammers home that even when you try to help because there are boys out there screaming for some positive male role models in there lives, you’re only allowed to show them masculine things that females deem are appropriate. It just makes me sick.
Hate to break it to you, dude, but you’re not actually a positive role model for anyone.
In the comments at MGTOWforums.com, where TheDisgruntledGentleman posted his tale of woe, others stepped forward to offer their own, er, critiques of the Big Brother program. “I’m really not surprised by the outcome of this at all,” wrote Mpav8r.
Basically, for our purposes, without intending any disrespect to the pious, we can compare the Big Brother service to a kind of prostitution agency, specializing in providing uber-manginas to attend to the fatherly duties of the harlot’s absconded alpha daddy, or the cuckolded beta wallet in exile; furthermore these manginas are free-range certified not to be paedophiles, or likely to have any real parental influence in lieu of the mother’s. Big Brothers is basically a volunteer organization that makes the logical connection between single moms and pathetic beta chumps trying to score brownie points, and attempts to exploit it for the perceived benefit of the children.
Most pathetic is the fact that these volunteers know for a fact that they will not be getting any tail as part of the deal. Unless you have a bleeding heart for abandoned bastards, you’d have to be a fool to waste your time on such a fool’s enterprise.
Based on what you said in your post, I would wager that the women in charge likely factored you as an armed misogynist pedophile with a chip on his shoulder. I would have gone wearing an old navy outfit and talked about flower arranging and self-esteem.
Relic, meanwhile, suggested that the best way to help out young boys today is for MGTOWers to keep being the woman-hating assholes they already are. Well, that’s a rough paraphrase. He phrased his advice slightly differently:
For me personally, I have zero interest in helping single mothers raise their kids. If she wanted a positive influence from a male, maybe she and her kind would not fuck us over at every turn so dad stays in the home. It’s only when society passes the breaking point things will get better for men. Stalling this only prolongs the suffering. Until then, I’m in the shadows.
I’m willing to bet that many men have been falsely accused of crimes trying to give back to these programs. No fucking way I would expose myself to that nightmare to help a single mother. Allow the whole thing to come crashing down while putting good information out there for truth seekers to get educated. It’s the absolute best thing we can do for boys.
I do agree that the best thing MGTOWers can do for boys is to stay as far away from them as possible.
Kitteh — that link goes to his comment, Mr. Al is a mod-queue avoiding way of saying his nym, shove the letters together (MRA…L)
Oh, gotcha, I was looking at the substantial comment in the middle of the page and missed his.
Which reminds me, how does one link to a particular comment on a thread?
I think you just click the timestamp and use the URL that comes up.
Cassandra — that’s just it though, what bothers me is the nagging fear that I can’t remotely figure out his motives because he’s that much of a narcissist.
But yeah, talking about him feeds that and ick so…Reid?
This is why I default to music when incomprehensible trolls appear, it clears the brain, and if I’m going to obsess over something I’d rather it be something that doesn’t make me feel like there are bugs crawling all over me.
Mr Al’s been commenting on John Scalzi’s blog since mid-January, it seems like. He’s often spoken about his literary interests, so it’s no surprise to find him on a sci-fi author’s blog. What is a surprise is that he’s not supporting the sexist, racist douchebag Vox Day (who isn’t a self-identified MRA, so far as I know, but whose views would not be very far from them).
Kitteh, right click on the link beside the comment name which gives the date and time of a post, and select ‘Copy link address’. You’ll find it’s an anchor to the individual comment. For example, this is the anchor to your comment just now.
Thank ‘ee! 🙂
OMG. I’m gonna grow out his hair, then put it into braids. omg.
Mister Alworthy is apparently sort of a regular on Scalzi’s blog. He’s commented in the “Troll Report” preceding the thread Xanthë linked, and Scalzi addresses him directly—and not even to ban him!
You know, I’m beginning to wonder if MR.ALBUTT even thinks we’re vile, vile misandrists at all. I feel so cheated.
I guess I really am a big green meanie, cause I just don’t care.
Cassandra — this may be my thing with crime shows, if I’m going to have my skin crawling, let’s make it fiction please?
Xantë — yeah, that’s the part that surprised me.
I need to go lurk and see if I can figure out whether my father unset his skunk traps yet, and if so, whether he injured/killed anything — I thought I heard him go out, but I heard nothing resembling cursing in defeat or excitement over getting the skunk, so idfk. It’s quite cold here, so I doubt anything was/is out — 24°F/-5°C — brrr.
Damnit, I forgot about the filter. Only small steps evident there, on about five or six threads. I gather he’s sucking up to Mr. Author a bit (who’s answered him directly several times), but if he’s capable of some personal growth and leaving behind his hateful support for the MRM, then I’m all for it.
Tugley — I do much prefer his longer hair, pigtail braids sound unbearably adorkable.
As for my lurking, I fail. I nearly collided with my mother in the bathroom, and then made a most ungodly sound when I backed into a storage rack and nearly fell in the tub. Yes, I am just that brilliant!
Also fiction has, you know, a plot and character development and stuff. Most of our trolls are just 1000 comments of repetitive arglebarglerage, or wahmypenisisneglected angst.
I just have doubts he is doing more than sucking up, my narcissists are very much one of my buttons, so totally biased here. (Also, still amazed at the noise I made and that I managed that lovely bit of klutz!)
Holy Mother of God, I can’t even finish reading this. What the fuck kind of masculine activies was this asshole going to introduce these at-risk kids to? I’ve got no problem with hunting, fishing, sport shooting but maybe fool here should start out with more simple activities. You know, basketball, ice cream…gee, maybe earning the kid’s trust first before putting a gun in his paw?! Do these MRA’s actually understand at least a bit of what being civilized is?
I bet a lot of the “feminine” activities Disgrunted Gentleman is disgruntled about involve things like talking about how the Little feels, what his hopes and dreams are. Big Brothers are confidants, and men who are obsessed with hegemonic masculinity consider that threatening.
Yay, another Sharpie fan! The pens they make are the best.
This is the first thing that came to my mind:
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Would someone mind explaining the one-armed person on the Mormon bear?
(Apologies if it’s been explained. I have a nasty cold and I think my brain is being squeezed by my overstuffed sinuses)
The one-armed guy on the Mormon bear.
It took me a while to get it, too, because I thought I’d missed something recent.
@katz: The rules supplements on the wiki look fine to me. I wouldn’t revise them unless there’s an unforeseen problem in play.
I’m curious as to why post-apocalyptic Dubai? Have you lived there? I’m kind of figuring that you chose it because it isn’t post-apocalyptic North America.
I would find Dubai a really interesting setting for a game just because of the architecture and landscaping. If the apocalypse happened now, you’d also have a lot of half-finished buildings and empty construction sites…lots of cool places to encounter baddies, set up a fortress, etc.
“It’s only when society passes the breaking point things will get better for men. Stalling this only prolongs the suffering. Until then, I’m in the shadows.”
Ah, yes, the long-awaited “Rapture of the Assholes.” Like The Singularity, but for jerks.
Most pathetic is the fact that these volunteers know for a fact that they will not be getting any tail as part of the deal. Unless you have a bleeding heart for abandoned bastards, you’d have to be a fool to waste your time on such a fool’s enterprise.
So… even at the face value of the post we see this is all a sham. Assume, arguendo, that one has an interest in reshaping the model of manhood (I say arguendo, becuase the “model” they think society has is at odds with reality).
The exact thing to do would be to find “impressionable” boys (and girls, the FeMRAs ought to be all over this… proving in their deeds that NAWALT), and mentor them.
If that requires a bit of camoflage and dissimulation, then so be it, end and means, realpolitik over Kantian ideals of right (a bit of Nietzche’s actual idea of creating one’s own moral code).
But no, the “activists” of “The Great Civil Rights Campaign of the 21st Century”™ are dismissing a prime tool for long-term success because, “they will not be getting any tail.”
Activism at its finest.