In the fast-paced, perpetually busy world of today, we don’t all have time to read every post on A Voice for Men. So here is an edited version of Paul Elam’s latest post, on Rebecca Watson of Skepchick. And whores. And how he personally doesn’t spend all his time claiming to be a victim, even though he totally is one, in case you forgot since the last time he reminded you of that.
Here’s Paul:
Whores … typical whore … Main Street walking, garden variety anybody’s whore … honest whore. … corporate whore … corporate whores … whorish sexual symmetry … stupid whore … stupid whore … whore … lying whore … whore … lying whore … whore … lying whore … corporate whore … a lying whore can also be a corporate whore … whoring for the cause … whore … PZ Myers … stupid, lying whore … not just a lying whore who also happens to be a stupid whore … a different subspecies of whore altogether … stupid, lying whore … whore that rigorously abandons intellect, rationale, evidence, decency and compassion, and also fosters much deserved hostility toward themselves … stupid, lying whore … stupid, lying whore … .
Paul Elam, meet Tom Martin.
Speaking of stupid, lying whores, let’s discuss Rebecca Watson’s latest article … about how she and other women who trash and demonize men regularly are helpless victims, getting nasty emails and tweets from some people who don’t like it. … Once [sic] such comment came from an individual who penned, “Hope Dawkins will bestially rape you…in the elevator to hell.” …
I have a keeper file of death threats, but I never wrote an article about them. I have been hounded recently by half the media hacks in Canada … it does not even compare to John the Other facing a gang of 20-30 assholes on the street, some wielding box cutters … 2 plus 2 equals stupid, lying, whining whore. What John and other MRAs are starting to encounter every day, and the future of what is to come, makes getting bestially raped by Richard Dawkins sound kinda funny. We just don’t get the luxury of playing the damsel in distress, nor do we want it.
There are maybe 1200 more words to his post, but I think you probably get the gist of it.
Watson’s post, by contrast, is worth reading in full.
@lowquacks
I feel your commuter’s pain! I was an hour and a half away from my university back in the day, and my job was back in my home town. I was lucky enough to have a car, though, so at least I didn’t have to organize my life around train and bus schedules.
I don’t know how you feel about going among strangers, but if you need a place to crash for a night or two, you could try couchsurfer.org and see if anyone in your university town is hosting. I’ve never done it myself, but my brother used it on a trip to DC recently and had a good time. It’s free (though you might want to leave a gift for your host), and it might tide you over a few nights until you find some good friends with an empty couch or bed.
When did reason and feminism become opposed?
@Crumbelievable: And let’s ALSO ignore that the purely descriptive meaning of the word “whore” has always been “a person who sells SEX”.
“Person who resolves cognitive dissonnance by adjusting more well-grounded beliefs to fit less well-grounded ones” (seems to be what Rebecca gets accused of) has precisely NEVER been the definition of whore. “Person who adjusts more well-grounded beliefs to fit less well-grounded ones because by doing so she can somehow make money” has NEVER been the definition of whore EITHER.
Go check a dictionary.
Noise-cancelling headphones will help. One other thing that will help is that it’s very likely that a lot of those loud drunk people will settle down a bit after a few weeks – the worst drunken partying I saw in my entire time at college was in the first month or so of freshman year, because a bunch of kids moving out of their parents’ houses for the first time decide that being away from Mom & Dad is their cue to get drunk EVERY NIGHT WOOOOOOO, but eventually that gets kind of boring and also they actually need to write papers and stuff if they don’t want to flunk all their classes, so they settle down to only sometimes being drunk and loud. Progress! :-p
(Oh, and USians don’t exactly use “college” and “university” interchangeably, but we do typically use “college” to cover both, and the distinction between them has nothing to do with quality or the age of the student body, but rather just with size and affiliation.)
Prostitution is illegal in the USA, right? If I find myself at an American university where I think some professor is abandoning well-grounded beliefs because they clash with less well-grounded ones, I’m gonna call the police and ask them to arrest him. Since that would apparently make zir a prostitute.
It should be arrest “zir” of course. Weird to first go with him and then zir.
I’m late to the party but I still want to share some curses:
May your pop go flat before you drink the whole can.
May your cereal get soggy before you eat the whole bowl.
May you get stuck behind a tractor on a two lane highway, when it’s hard to see if there is traffic coming the other way so you can pass it.
May your favorite radio station play more commercials than songs on your next long car trip.
May you get excited about a good space in a parking lot, but you find out it actually has a motorcycle in it so you have to keep looking.
May you eat a jelly bean expecting it to be a good flavor, but it turns out to be something crappy like popcorn or licorice.
May you get excited about eating Neapolitan ice cream, but find out someone else has already eaten all of the chocolate.
May the windmill knock your golf ball away from the tunnel the next time you play putt putt, and you had a good score up until this hole.
Paul, may you discover your laundry is stil damp the next morning and its only five degrees out.
May your phone ring incessantly anytime you plan on sitting to watch a really good movie on TV.
May someone play nicky nine doors with your doorbell at 3 am.
May you lock your keys inside your car/house and have to spend several hours trying to get in because no one will help you.
May you have to spend most of your day trying to get a free washer in your laundry mat only to finally get one and your have many loads of laundry to do.
May your children remind you five minutes before its time to leave for school of the really important thing you needed to do so they’d be ready for class that day.
May your children be careless with your favorite CDs and scratch them so badly they skip.
Paul, may you purchase your favorite bag of ground coffee, only to discover after you’ve made it that you got decafe instead.
I guess I’m still goth on the inside, just not always on the outside. The summers are too hot and humid here to pull off the look. 😉
Paul, may you go to a party and have lots of awkward small talk.
-May you go to the grocery store and forget to buy the one thing you needed the most.
-May you get a phone call right as you are checking out at the grocery store.
-May your child need to go to the bathroom five minutes after you start a car trip.
-May your neighbor’s dog bark loudly in the middle of the night.
-May you have a conversation with someone but you don’t remember their name.
-May the ice in your sweet tea melt too fast and water it down.
-May your friends tell your waiter when it’s your birthday, so all the waiters and waitresses sing Happy birthday to you.
-May you have your eyes closed in a group photo.
-May you click on what looks like an interesting link, but get rick rolled instead.
-May your nose itch really bad when you are helping someone move furniture.
Re: College/University
In my part of the US, “college” means “formal education after high school that isn’t vocational”. So community colleges you commute to and huge universities where you live in the dorm are all called “college”. Almost nobody actually uses the words “uni” or “university”. The only time we’d use the word “university” is if we were being super formal/sarcastically formal in referring to the name of our institution. For instance, I went to OSU, or as they like to call it, “THE Ohio State University”. And “uni” is totally “that word that English/Canadian people use for college”.
Sweet merciful Christ, how many times can Elam say “whores” in one paragraph? What is this, a Frank Miller comic?
Once after a play I was kept awake by drunken recitations of Measure for Measure.
College just has a different noise level. You’ll acclimate.
Well, if that totes-not-made-up story about fending off hordes of box-cutter-wielding assailants is any indication, Elam seems to think JohnTheOther is Batman, so…
The obsessive repetition of the word “whore” has a well-known porn aspect. It’s talking dirty while having sex with one’s keyboard. Remember this is the dude that says fucking women’s shit up “gives me an erection”. He can’t get at his target physically, but he’s trying to degrade her and get off and make her feel as dirty as he is. “Slut” is another big fave of his. He’s single-handedly bringing back Victorian sex nouns.
I’d take Measure for Measure over MTV catchphrases any day, maybe that’s my intellectual elitism talking though.
David, how are the kitties doing?
PZ Myers is a whore? That’s going to be news to him, Mrs. Myers and the UofM Prostitution Department which thought it was the Department of Biology
I’m so glad that’s not me, aworld. Not only for the freaky social aspects, but I get really angry (perhaps unnecessarily so, sometimes) when people interrupt me with noise. I’d just be in a perpetual rage. D:
If it’s not too late, may I add my own curse (sadly based on today’s experience):
May your belly button become horribly infected, oozing puss so smelly the nurse remarks on it & you have to take several embarrassing bus journeys. Oh & have to fork out for antibiotics when money’s getting tight.
Apologies to anyone eating right now.
@shade
I figure I’m probably best off just seeing if I adapt to it over time, I mean they’re not bad guys, loud yes, but it’s not like they’re assholes on purpose. They’re just looking for a good time, if it ever gets too bad, I could probably just ask them politely to take it down to the bars.
Also, speaking of “space invasions” per a previous thread, the Atheism+ forum has already been invaded by a few MRAs who have posted a demand that the feminists there confirm that they are against male circumcision, which apparently is a big MRA topic. (It is?)
I’m sorry for your infection, crazyladyblues. I hope the meds work well and you get to feeling better quickly. And don’t worry your story didn’t gross me out at all. I just feel bad for you having that happen when money is tight.
Don’t you realize that a minor procedure that results in little to no loss of sensation is TOTES THE WORST HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION EVER ?!
(I mean, when it is done on infants, it is done without consent, which looks like a problem on the face of it, but then you get into parents making health care decisions for their children. I think the MRM is looking for parallel issues to FGM, but they’re not going to find it carrying on about the bris.)