In the fast-paced, perpetually busy world of today, we don’t all have time to read every post on A Voice for Men. So here is an edited version of Paul Elam’s latest post, on Rebecca Watson of Skepchick. And whores. And how he personally doesn’t spend all his time claiming to be a victim, even though he totally is one, in case you forgot since the last time he reminded you of that.
Here’s Paul:
Whores … typical whore … Main Street walking, garden variety anybody’s whore … honest whore. … corporate whore … corporate whores … whorish sexual symmetry … stupid whore … stupid whore … whore … lying whore … whore … lying whore … whore … lying whore … corporate whore … a lying whore can also be a corporate whore … whoring for the cause … whore … PZ Myers … stupid, lying whore … not just a lying whore who also happens to be a stupid whore … a different subspecies of whore altogether … stupid, lying whore … whore that rigorously abandons intellect, rationale, evidence, decency and compassion, and also fosters much deserved hostility toward themselves … stupid, lying whore … stupid, lying whore … .
Paul Elam, meet Tom Martin.
Speaking of stupid, lying whores, let’s discuss Rebecca Watson’s latest article … about how she and other women who trash and demonize men regularly are helpless victims, getting nasty emails and tweets from some people who don’t like it. … Once [sic] such comment came from an individual who penned, “Hope Dawkins will bestially rape you…in the elevator to hell.” …
I have a keeper file of death threats, but I never wrote an article about them. I have been hounded recently by half the media hacks in Canada … it does not even compare to John the Other facing a gang of 20-30 assholes on the street, some wielding box cutters … 2 plus 2 equals stupid, lying, whining whore. What John and other MRAs are starting to encounter every day, and the future of what is to come, makes getting bestially raped by Richard Dawkins sound kinda funny. We just don’t get the luxury of playing the damsel in distress, nor do we want it.
There are maybe 1200 more words to his post, but I think you probably get the gist of it.
Watson’s post, by contrast, is worth reading in full.
Open a new subfolder under C://My Documents/Shit That Never Happened.
By the way, after a night away from the apartment, we have come home to a blissful silence from the water pipes.
I don’t know of anybody in my immediate vicinity who practices the bagpipes, but I do play trombone in the local community orchestra.
Love the pic. It fits Paul Elam perfectly. Hope it hits google images.
Gosh, they say “whore” like it’s a bad thing, or something.
Mockery and ridicule infuriates these menfolk and their defenders, which is why I think Rebecca Watson’s grace and great sense of humor in the face of the shitstorm has been so infuriating for them. See also: this blog.
Good.
Funny, I saw a comment by one of the women who was there this day (was that here?) Anyway, they saw this guy putting up posters for A Voice for Men. They were ripping down his posters — that was the extent of the “threat” made against him. He flagged down a cop, who waved him off and told him to stop being a baby. Poster wars, lol.
So then he decided to stamp all of their posters with his AVFM stamp.
Tis such a shame for him so it is.
One would think, that were a person attacked by a gang of 20-30 men with box cutters it would A) make the news, these kinds of things usually do, and B) be fatal. Unless he’s saying he didn’t go to the police because they’re somehow part of the evil feminist conspiracy, which conveniently happen to be really bad at using box cutters.
Elame wishes he had a folder full of death threats. He’s not important enough for anyone to bother doing that. If he did, that’s all we’d hear about for six months. Such a drama queen.
To add, I contribute regularly to Guardian CIF. I now take it upon myself (hell, I’m so English) to question the wackier commenters when the say “feminists”, to name a few. One was honest enough to say that when he (or she) uses the term feminist they mean anyone who doesn’t agree with them. I’m thinking “lying whore” means the same.
Rebecca offering herself as a target to take the abuse off of Jen McCreight makes her a damsel in distress? Just calling this garbage out is making us a target. Where are these so-called damsels in distress?
How strange. There are ONLY four types of whore, but not one of them has anything to do with sex.
I’m sure Tom Martin is a proud mentor.
Elam: “I have been hounded recently by half the media hacks in Canada”
He wishes. He so, so, so wishes.
I have a suspicion that his “death threat” folder is full of restraining orders.
That picture of him is perfect 😀
>Elam: “I have been hounded recently by half the media hacks in Canada”
I thought it was an Ozzi paper that called him?
Yeah, and instead of using that opportunity to give a substantive response, he told them he was too busy watching a movie to give a comment.
MRAs “not whining about being victims” is such a joke. These guys do nothing but. They’re all victimized by evil feminists, their ex-wives, and ‘manginas’ who are just pretending to like women to get laid! Or who are gay! Or both! It makes sense, somehow! Their defense against ‘mean feminists’ seems to be ‘let’s get even meaner and act even worse than they do! They say they can’t insult us because they do the same!’
I wouldn’t think much of a feminist group who did nothing but put up weird posters and scream about all men being evil, either. But if there are actually groups who do this, they sure aren’t the majority. There seem to be *no* MRA-types who think ‘hey, maybe acting like worse versions of what our opponents are doing isn’t actually helpful!’
I love the image of baby Paul Elam.
Come to think of it, I have never seen Tom Martin and Paul Elam together in the same room.
Hmmmm.
So, “whore” is Paul’s favorite word, huh? LOL! I agree that being a whore is not necessarily a bad thing. If someone lives by the belief that variety is the spice of life, who am I to judge?
What the hell? Has he lost it?
So telling people not to ask you to go back to their room for “coffee” with them at 4:00 in the morning when they are alone with you in an elevator in a hotel in a foreign country after you’d given a talk where you’d specifically said you didn’t like to be sexualized makes you a “whore”?
And continuing to blog and speak out for skepticism and feminism after over a year’s worth of constant abuse for having the temerity to say “Guys, don’t do that” makes you a damsel-in-distress? Calling out rape threats and sexual harassment even though you know that the trolls are going to see it as a call-to-arms and that people who ought to be your allies are going to continue to trivialize and dismiss your experiences makes you a damsel-in-distress? Standing up for yourself and what you know is right in the face of a storm of obsessive hate makes you a damsel-in-distress?
These dudes have some really weird definitions of “whore” and “damsel-in-distress”. Moreover, the make damsels-in-distress sound like total badasses. If Rebecca Watson’s strength of character makes her a damsel-in-distress, then I aspire to one day be a damsel-in-distress. I would be honored to say that I possessed some small portion of her damsel-in-distress-itude.
Not unlike being a rapist, amirite?
I wonder if eLame, Martin and the rest are ever going to wake up and smell the shit they’ve been swimming in. Probably never going to happen. At least their pathetic brain shits are good for a laugh.
I made a terrible mistake. I clicked on the link back to Paul Elam’s original post.
Why did I do that? I knew it was going to be painfully stupid. I guess I thought that this knowledge made me adequately prepared for the idiocy that I knew would find there. But I was wrong. That foreknowledge did not adequately immunize me. Paul Elam’s fuckwittery was still absolutely painful to read.
For instance,
So let’s ignore the ableism and the Tom Martinesque abuse of the word “whore” for a moment. The lack of self-awareness on display here is simply stunning. I’d make some quip about the pot calling the kettle black, but I don’t think that could even begin to cover it.
Just keep that in mind. Elam is complaining about how Rebecca Watson gave only six examples of the sort of rape threats and hate mail she receives.
And now he’s saying that he’s a better person because he hasn’t given any examples of the death threats he says that he’s received. Dude, are you upset because Rebecca Watson gave you too few examples or because she gave any examples at all? Those are mutually exclusive positions. Pick one.
And apparently having had a flood of seething hatred poured out at you for months on end totally doesn’t count as “real pressure”. What does Paul Elam think that “real pressure is?
Paul Elam also seems to have forgotten that those “media hacks” who wrote those “hit pieces” before ever trying to talk to him actually tried to talk to him before writing those pieces. And Elam told them that he was too busy to talk with them because he was watching some movie. So he’s going to blame journalists for writing articles without talking to him first when he snubbed the journalists who attempted to contact him. Nice.
Of course, he’s only calm in the picture because he’s watching Air Force One.